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Mechanic
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It is Obvious that you care.
You have taken every step possible to make last night a 'win' for TNT and a 'loss' for KOC. You have stopped at no bounds to make excuses to justify your poor skills.
there ya go.
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You have taken every step possible to make last night a 'win' for TNT and a 'loss' for KOC. You have stopped at no bounds to make excuses to justify your poor skills.
there ya go.
I'd say he cares!
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Turtle
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Well lets just put it this way....
You put up pics of these couple kills so I want you to remember that.
Don't start what you can't finish.
You put up pics of these couple kills so I want you to remember that.
Don't start what you can't finish.
The best way to avoid **** like this: Say the situation is TnT had 7 and KoC had 4. KoC shouldn't come here saying "OMG YUH YOU WON BUT HOW MANY DID YOU HAVE?! STEALTHERS?! TAEMERS!? LIONS AND TIGERSS DFGSDF!!!" They could just say, ya, we weren't ready to be that out numbered, good win. Because that's all it is. you were out numbered and got beaten. It's not like TnT had 300-1, and it's not like they are that bad. You want to know why UO PvP is dead? Because forum pvp is at an all time rise.
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Goron
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exactly. I don't recal ever tryign to dig myself out of a hole by claiming I didn't care.
He realized he was beaten, he realized his arguments couldn't hold, so he had to try and turn one last trick and pull the 'meh I don't care' card... fail.
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Goron
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hehe, I think you have k0c's quote down pat: "OMG YUH YOU WON BUT HOW MANY DID YOU HAVE?! STEALTHERS?! TAEMERS!? LIONS AND TIGERSS DFGSDF!!!"
I don't think I have once denied that we had them outnumbered most of the time last night, I don't think I once claimed to have won a 1v1 last night. Thats the whole point, thats why I came here and put pics up. I knew k0c would jump out and make excuses. Its funny how when k0c 'dominates tnt' when they have 10 on and we have 3 (most nights) that counts as a fair fight to k0c, and the three tnt are wimps for hiding in a house... but when tnt has 10 on and k0c has 3 on, they sit in the GZ all day and when one of them goes down immediatly start making excuses about the numbers and ganks and stealthers and being dropped as a baby and dismounts.
In the end they end up acting so babyish, and exactly the way they accuse other people of acting when k0c is on in force 'pwning'...
it makes me giggle. I am pretty sure most of k0c honestly, mentally do not realize that when a k0c house hides because they are outnumbered, it is no different form when a tnt, jsv, or to house hides when outnumbered... they have some odd belief that they are somehoe 'different'
Actually, Goron.. If I remember correctly all the names that were being read off as I was headed to Despise, I think we determined they outnumbered us and also had pets. Thats why we ended up in the star room vs a full on raid.
They actually outnumbered us, so its no surprise that they are here making excuses. NBD eh?
They actually outnumbered us, so its no surprise that they are here making excuses. NBD eh?
Thing is, you guys will house hide even when you have more than us. Proved last night right before the spawn. We took a rats spawn from TO, then we decided to come back to luna to see what was up. TNT hiding in a house with 8+ people on is what was up. So after doing the kill you guys in the house, you ress up and lose nothing, rinse repeat ting for a few we decided to go do Despise again, to draw some sort of fighting outside Luna. We really hoped someone would try to raid the spawn, give us something to fight for. When that didnt happen, we finished the spawn and heard you guys were trying to ambush in the star room, so we all decided to go in. Unfortunately, it didnt work out so well for me. I swear to god UO never takes longer to load then right after a client crash. But in the end, we got our scrolls, you got an LRC suit off me, and im not sure what else you feel you should be bragging about. Funny thing is, the worst Pvpers in your guild are always the ones talking the most trash here. You and Kat definitely come to mind. Dont see the select few TNT that know what they are doing in game here making a big deal about the one fight in twenty that they finally won.
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Goron
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Just because I know k0c will try and be a k0c- I will say that although they did have pets, they were not involved in the initial confrontation.
(not arguing with you kat, its just we both know k0c will try and twist your words somehow).
But i guess you are right now that you mention it, thats why we decided to ambush star room. After I read off all the names, we realized we were outnumbered and a direct despise assualt was not wise. Good point, I had forgotten about that, I managed to let k0c trick me with their bs into thinking we had numbers.
(not arguing with you kat, its just we both know k0c will try and twist your words somehow).
But i guess you are right now that you mention it, thats why we decided to ambush star room. After I read off all the names, we realized we were outnumbered and a direct despise assualt was not wise. Good point, I had forgotten about that, I managed to let k0c trick me with their bs into thinking we had numbers.
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Goron
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Actually if I recall we killed a few of you. forget that part?
why nto send us an icq saying u were there? I had to go find you. By the time i got there u were already almost done with spawn, it was on archers.
CAUGHT IN LIE!
BAM. Cash admitted that we caught you gues in an ambush. He told us that he went thru first but his mic wasn't working so he couldn't get the warning to you guys fast. Way to fail!!!! EPIC
OMFG, for real, here is where my 'the rules don't apply to koc' post above comes in, isnt this exactly what you guys always call BS on when it happens to a TnT? WOW. sure it was a client crash. I'll believe that as soon as you give GG credit when he claims a crash.
no bragging, I just wanted to hear your guys excuses.
Hows that funny? So I am not very good at pvp, what does that have to do with the fact that you guys got killed a lot last night?
ROFL, and yet the only time I see Kat...she's tucked away safe inside krystal's luna guild safe zone...la
do u leave luna? cause u say that about everyone...
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Goron
Guest
let's just suppose what you say is fact.
Let us just imagine that si the truth...
What would your point be?
I do not see Kat coming out here claiming she is the best pvper ont he shard.
I do not see Kat claiming she is never in Krystals ever.
I do not see Kat claiming she only died because k0c had 1000000 people.
My whole purpose of continuing these threads is to expose k0c's inability to take a loss.
Yet, in this thread, k0c has done all of that. They refuse to admit that they were beaten, ONCE. Their excuses just keeeeep coming.
As I posted before, I honestly thinkt hat they are mentally unable to recognize that they are not invincible. Remind me of the world leader that up until the last day of his/her life he/she thought he/she could win, despite the fact he/she was hiding in a deep bunker, with no troops left to fight... he/she could not mentally comprehend that he/she had lost.
That she talks a lot of **** for being so prone to be found in the safety of the luna TnT safe house...la
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Goron
Guest
which is worse,
to talk **** but admit (or at least not deny) your true faults?
or to talk **** while denying your true faults?
k0c talks a lot of **** when they have numbers on (and thus r not in GZ), but as soon as they get out numbered they are only to be found in the GZ, STILL talking **** and using the same excuses that they accuse others of using when the tables are turned.
to talk **** but admit (or at least not deny) your true faults?
or to talk **** while denying your true faults?
k0c talks a lot of **** when they have numbers on (and thus r not in GZ), but as soon as they get out numbered they are only to be found in the GZ, STILL talking **** and using the same excuses that they accuse others of using when the tables are turned.
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Shakaja
Guest
dont generalize for the entire guild. im the first to admit how much i suck and how i loose all the time and im not that alone.
and now why dont a few of you ****talkers say they would be up for some fighting in my other thread. i dont want to end up having to kill myself because there is noone else there to fight.
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Goron
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And then we have you, Rico... la...
Who just talks ****, jumping into the fray to try and get some board pvp excitement because you are too afraid to actually do it in game.
Who just talks ****, jumping into the fray to try and get some board pvp excitement because you are too afraid to actually do it in game.
Goron u talk more **** than anyone I know and u refuse to fight 1 on 1... I chased u on both your characters the other day with an very very very un finihsed character and all u did was run your ass off and I was alone...
U talk more **** than I do ... and that is saying a lot
My comments are about Kat...not KoC. You and them feel free to have your discussion. I was just chiming in on her comments...which do come frequently...la
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Shakaja
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koc never goes out outnumbered:
ps: yes the pic is probably around 2 months old. i usually dont make screenshots, i only took it because i thought it was funny (had to get used to that situation thoo) how i couldnt grab all your bars because i got the message too many non party bars and you guys still wouldnt come out to fight. the only thing that happened was all the archers and mages dumping on us with idico being the only one who was unlucky enough to run out of the house and died. could have been a nice fight thoo :/
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Goron
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but this all goes back to my purpose of this thread- to show that I don't deny these things.Goron u talk more **** than anyone I know and u refuse to fight 1 on 1... I chased u on both your characters the other day with an very very very un finihsed character and all u did was run your ass off and I was alone...
U talk more **** than I do ... and that is saying a lot
Yes, I run from you 100% when I am on Goron. I run from ANY dexxer 100% when I am on Goron, and I will run from 75% any other character too when I am on GOron. See, I admit it. Thats the difference between you and me.
Lets test it. Ready?
Here it comes:
How about that time you kept flagging on me in the GZ in luna on strangelove. After some time and I finally get you alone out of the GZ, you proceeded to run your ass off. Remember that?
So I called in GG and Krystal to drop you. Remember?
It was 1v1, you verse me. I had no help, but you ran away.
Before that I ran from you a few times, because I didn't like fighting in the GZ (not to mention it was NOT 1v1, you had help) see, I admit it.
As soon as you died you went off claiming I couldn't 1v1, that I needed help. You absolutely refused to acknowledge that you had run away, and I was leading you on a chase, presumably into the GZ (u ran to west gate) when you got cut off by my help.
So tell me, Kage, did you run away form me when it was 1v1?
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Goron
Guest
I think you are missing a big point here... we don't fight you when you are on tamer Shak. We run away, almost every time.
Call us afraid, call us whimps, call us whatever you like.
Don't matter to me what you think about it, we just don't want to fight tamer shak so we dont.
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Goron
Guest
oh well, I'm mistaken then.
But, nwo that you mention mystique...
Did you not know I also play Strangelove?
Because I very clearly remember fighting mystique as Strangelove 1v1 several times, but you ran to GZ most of them. And I clearly remember you indicating you were an unfinished character, I retorted that I was too, so you further made and excuse saying your stats were out of whack for a mage, and I admitted my stats were as I wanted them.
Remember that?
That was after you ran from me into the GZ hiding behind another blue k0c (H wakayama maybe? i forget)
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Shakaja
Guest
actually no, you seem to be missing the big point. you said if we are outnumbered, we are hiding in guardzone. look at the screenshot, we are not in guardzone.
about the tamerthing, whatever, you had a red and two blue tamers in the house, one with discord (called scot i believe) and you tried to kill my dragon a few times, thats the reason my dragon is standing so far behind.
but see, there you got the chance to fight some kocs including me without pets, i even made the thread. i dont see you posting in it thoo
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Goron
Guest
Shak, you do realize there is a big difference between a field fight and an organized duel event?
I do not get as much fun fighting in an enclosed space with dictated rules. I prefer to fight in the field.
Thats why I hate WoW. The field fighting is A LOT of fun, but there is no purpose to it, pretty much negating the fun, and the BGs are stupid, because they are basically 'big duels'.
I am sure you k0c are goign to respond to this with "See, goron can't put his money where his mouth is, he is making excuses because he knows we are totally going to pwn him!"
But I am hoping that you are intelligent enough to realize that an organized duel is very very very different from an impromptu field fight. This is why pets have been banned from duels- because they are fundamentally different from an open fight.
A mage with no weapon skill can defeat a dexxer with much more ease in a field fight, but in a pit the dexxer will have a much greater advantage.
Its why you probably wear different equipment in a duel than in the field.
I will participate in a big fight, because it will likely still be fun- but it is in no way, shape, or form equivelent to a field fight. It will not indicate who is better in a 1v1. It will not indicate who is better in a big field fight. All it will do is say who is better in an organized large scale duel.
I do not get as much fun fighting in an enclosed space with dictated rules. I prefer to fight in the field.
Thats why I hate WoW. The field fighting is A LOT of fun, but there is no purpose to it, pretty much negating the fun, and the BGs are stupid, because they are basically 'big duels'.
I am sure you k0c are goign to respond to this with "See, goron can't put his money where his mouth is, he is making excuses because he knows we are totally going to pwn him!"
But I am hoping that you are intelligent enough to realize that an organized duel is very very very different from an impromptu field fight. This is why pets have been banned from duels- because they are fundamentally different from an open fight.
A mage with no weapon skill can defeat a dexxer with much more ease in a field fight, but in a pit the dexxer will have a much greater advantage.
Its why you probably wear different equipment in a duel than in the field.
I will participate in a big fight, because it will likely still be fun- but it is in no way, shape, or form equivelent to a field fight. It will not indicate who is better in a 1v1. It will not indicate who is better in a big field fight. All it will do is say who is better in an organized large scale duel.
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Goron
Guest
PS, that pic was back when you guys were enemy factions or still playing reds- so you couldnt hide in the GZ at that time, that was when u guys hid in Brooks hosue a lot.
Also, notice that although yes, you have 1000000 bars up, only 4 are active. believe it or not (I knw i have told u this before because u absolutely LOVE to put this pic up) people tend to go afk, or, godforbid, not stay in krystals.
Honestly, for all you know, the rest of yoru bars u have up were in Despise doing a spawn at that time (likely not the case, becuase my bar is up and I rememebr that time and I was afk at that moment).
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HaHa
Guest
We knew about the ambush well ahead of time. When Cash warned us he could hear Hugi and I in vent say "oh they are ambushing? Lets go in there."
All this trading back and forth makes me hope you guys (both guilds) are on tonight, looking forward to some more fighting.... and some more video sharing... you gonna be on tonight Mechanic?
Drop your icq on me goron, ill include you in the fun.
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Shakaja
Guest
goron, do you realize until you cant talk about how big the difference is until you know the arena and the rules? lets see, arena is anywhere on siege, rules are everything goes. now show me the big difference.
you see, this is just about fighting. the ones fighting are making the rules. they can be whatever you think is the funniest.
i agree it was a fun night
I do see where Cash thought we were unable to read his message, but I assure you, it was a very conscious decision by us to enter the star room to fight.
I guess if I claimed a crash after every death like Goodcry then you would have reason not to believe me. Im not saying that my outcome would have definitely been different had I not crashed before the star room loaded, but I would have liked the opportunity to find out.
I will definitely give props to someone for a good fight. Trouble is, neither you or goron have any ability to contribute to such an event. You two are the absolute definition of non-factors. I mean, you're a woman, so that is to be expected. Not exactly sure what goron's excuse is.Poor Beezlebutt.. The only thing he can do is bark, growl and spew venom when he loses. I guess it'd just be too much for him to say "Hey, good fight" instead of talking trash.
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Shakaja
Guest
first of all, i love to put this picture up? please show me or just tell me how many times i put that one up. as far as i know this was the second time, first being in a thread where i replied to idico saying something with it.
but know whats funny? just a second ago you were talking about how koc cant admit to things and has to make excuses. now look at you...
idico, krystal and skia all were playing stealthers at that time. they are standing pretty much on the front steps. just as i said, they all popped out and started shooting us, idico being the only one who ran out of the house trying to get a killshot in and dieing doing so. so that leaves only you being afk and doing the despise spawn, i call both very unlikely as you dropped an explosion on me and couldnt follow up with the flamestrike as i ran out of range and you didnt want to come out. and like i said, idico was the only one who came out.
maybe it would help if i told you who exactly out of this list was attacking me. idico, krystal, skia and erevos tried to shoot me. balki and goron tried to cast on me (balki having the great idea to start a big dump with a strangle instead of a damage spell). id say thats quite an impressive attack for afk people.
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Goron
Guest
fair enough. So you knew we were there.
I'll take that.
And you guys DID come through anyways, which I must give props for.
HaHa tends not to over-claim himself. Whether he knew the dragons were coming or not, he did stay to fight in the terra keep, even when he had numerical disadvantage (at that point, after several k0c fell in star room).
I'll take that.
And you guys DID come through anyways, which I must give props for.
HaHa tends not to over-claim himself. Whether he knew the dragons were coming or not, he did stay to fight in the terra keep, even when he had numerical disadvantage (at that point, after several k0c fell in star room).
Yes I do remember I did run into the GZ because well for one I have a total of 80hp lol 2 hits and I am almost dead...
But when I am finished I will be glad to stand toe to toe against u... but I am along way away...
So for u to even comment about me going to the gz is just silly especially when u have never ever tried to even fight me until u noticed that one hit the other day with me wearing no armor and with only 80hp u half lifed me... so ya I ran from u on that day with those stats and no armor...
I fear the strangelove lol u are a joke...
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But when I am finished I will be glad to stand toe to toe against u... but I am along way away...
So for u to even comment about me going to the gz is just silly especially when u have never ever tried to even fight me until u noticed that one hit the other day with me wearing no armor and with only 80hp u half lifed me... so ya I ran from u on that day with those stats and no armor...
I fear the strangelove lol u are a joke...
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Goron
Guest
Shak, you should read my post again, I did not say I/anyone was in despise, I simply used it as an example to say you did not know where the inactive bars were.
I also made it rather clear that we choose not to fight you when you have your dragon out. I am pretty certain I admitted to that...
I also made it rather clear that we choose not to fight you when you have your dragon out. I am pretty certain I admitted to that...
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Goron
Guest
which is it? in the first post you said I ran from you on both my characters. In the second post you said you ran from me? I am confused.
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Shakaja
Guest
and as i told you, i know exactly where the inactive bars were. i only got attacked after all.
also i wonder what you mean then when you say you guys dont choose to fight me when im with my dragon. i mean having 3 tamers there trying to kill my pet, then 6 people dumpin on me out of a house, entire time having my dragon right next to me. i wouldnt exactly call that choosing not to fight me. maybe thats just me thoo.
I am sorry i did not mention that I finally died later on on that charater to krystal from moving shot... and did not suit back up... lord forbid... I was naked after ressing there was a few of u I retreated to the gz because u flagged me hit me once for half my life and I ran to the gz in hopes to gw you.
I guess at the time u had no idea who I was... kind threw me for a loop u actually flagging aginst me first...
But now you know Mystique is Kage so u can write that down so u don't accidently do it when I am equipped...
I guess at the time u had no idea who I was... kind threw me for a loop u actually flagging aginst me first...
But now you know Mystique is Kage so u can write that down so u don't accidently do it when I am equipped...
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Goron
Guest
alright, thanks for the tip.
What's so confusing?
He said you don't 1 v 1 him and then in the example you are discussing (the 1 v 1 quoted) you are discussing a 1 on 1 against him when he's a naked new-res?
So, we've established you'll 1 v 1 someone when they have no equipment... otherwise, you run away with panties at teh ankles.
I hope that cleared up any confusion.