60+ vals, 60+ verites, 150+ barbs are...

[RavenWinterHawk]

alive and kicking on Atlantic.
wow I cant wait for the burning to really really fix this dupe.

it will really fix things because all that armor and those weapons that were made from the dupes...

will be placed in trash bins by the players that bought them.

Woohoo EA way to go.

 

[Connor_Graham]

You know they're dupes when the Valorite runics cost less than Verite ones...

 

[Lady_Mina]

Atlantic is now renamed to 'duper's paradise'

You know Atlantic is building up quite a reputation.

 

[RavenWinterHawk]

Atlantic is now renamed to 'duper's paradise'

You know Atlantic is building up quite a reputation.

Whats nice is by weekend I will have a suit of 70's of everything possible.

Reflect damage suit
Luck suit
mana regen LRC suit
HP dex suit
Maximium stat increase suit.

Plus I heard you can dupe llamas
So each suit will have a herd on llamas attached to it for fighting companions.

Now Im working on weapons

I hope to get 50% hit lightning, 50% HLD, 50% HLA, 30% ssi, and HCI over every weapon.

Woohoo. Duping.

BTW i dont really have those suits.

 

[Redxpanda]

Makes me wish i was still playing and had enough to afford some xfer tokens along with some of those.

 

[Arcus]

alive and kicking on Atlantic.
wow I cant wait for the burning to really really fix this dupe.

Burning doesn't fix the dupe, fixing the code fixes the dupe.

Burning just gives the appearance they actually are doing something. If they were ACTUALLY doing something this would have been fix 1+ years ago.

 

[Halister Marner]

Atlantic is now renamed to 'duper's paradise'

You know Atlantic is building up quite a reputation.

Thankfully Atlantic has the most diligent anti cheater population, so fencers, exploits and dupers get reported quickly. Unfortunately, that doesn't really matter if EA doesn't do anything with that information.

 

[bokke]

alive and kicking on Atlantic.
wow I cant wait for the burning to really really fix this dupe.

it will really fix things because all that armor and those weapons that were made from the dupes...

will be placed in trash bins by the players that bought them.

Woohoo EA way to go.

Pray tell how do you know there are that many?

 

[RavenWinterHawk]

Pray tell how do you know there are that many?

a website that drops runes and books all the time in atlantic advertises a search of LUNA.

Yea I go to it.
Im weak.

The site list that many of those items on vendors.

 

[GalenKnighthawke]

a website that drops runes and books all the time in atlantic advertises a search of LUNA.

Yea I go to it.
Im weak.

The site list that many of those items on vendors.

I am 100% positive that you are kidding, and what you really mean is that you took 60 to 90 minutes and wandered Luna and did a rough count of what you saw. You of course couldn't take all day and thus there could easily be more you didn't notice, hence the "+" in your subject line.

That's really too long to spend shopping in a game, and wouldn't it be neat if UO did some kind of official database, kinda like the unofficial database that you didn't use.

-Galen's player

 

[Lady_Mina]

Thankfully Atlantic has the most diligent anti cheater population, so fencers, exploits and dupers get reported quickly. Unfortunately, that doesn't really matter if EA doesn't do anything with that information.

I heared the duping is really the worst on Atlantic.

I think Europa or Great Lakes comes in 2nd in the 'who has the most dupers on their server' list.

But Altantic is defenatly nr 1.
+ how shamelessly those dupers put that stuff for sale...they do ZERO effort to even hide it.

On europa they at least try to hide it abit.

 

[RavenWinterHawk]

I am 100% positive that you are kidding, and what you really mean is that you took 60 to 90 minutes and wandered Luna and did a rough count of what you saw. You of course couldn't take all day and thus there could easily be more you didn't notice, hence the "+" in your subject line.

That's really too long to spend shopping in a game, and wouldn't it be neat if UO did some kind of official database, kinda like the unofficial database that you didn't use.

-Galen's player

Thats why Im against.
Now i wouldnt be against a data base that list all the items and properties for sale without the location. Its great for price learning.

How the heck do I figure out want mana reg 2, 18% LRC 4% LMC 12% this and that go for.

What did you think I use it for?

 

[MaryForUo]

Burning doesn't fix the dupe, fixing the code fixes the dupe.

Burning just gives the appearance they actually are doing something. If they were ACTUALLY doing something this would have been fix 1+ years ago.

correct! wondering what the hell are doing the devs! sleeping? like always...omg!
everything is out of control and soon a lot of players'll quit, for sure!

personally, i'd like to see all quit this game!
this game is now just ridiculous...

 

[RenaLynne]

Thats sad...

 

[Eslake]

+ how shamelessly those dupers put that stuff for sale...they do ZERO effort to even hide it.

They have no reason to hide it.
The worst thing that can happen to them is the account get banned.
But they have 25 accounts so it is no big loss.

Oh the house could be burned, but since they are Renting the vendor space, that is unlikely and even if it does, it wasn't Their house... so what do they care?


They just don't care.
If they cared about scripters or dupers they would end them.
They know how, they just don't.

90% of scripting is done using a program that breaks every time UO is patched, so if they patched a barrel 1 tile away each day it would break that.

Most duping depends on char xfer tokens, which they knew the First Day they put them in, but since each one sold is $20 for them they don't care, and keep putting them back in.

The other dupe currently popular they could fix even easier than the removal of tokens. I still can't figure out why they haven't just added the 1 check it would take to eliminate it, but then they never do seem to be in a hurry to fix anything that doesn't have an immediate $ price tag.

 

[Lady_Mina]

EA should start banning on IP and/or visa card number.

To outsmart them.

But then again.... 20 alt accounts payed by a duper...that have to get banned.
20 x 16 dollars...

+ now that it's clear how many duper there are out there...
Then they would probably have to ban half the people that is still left in UO.

 

[RavenWinterHawk]

EA should start banning on IP and/or visa card number.

To outsmart them.

But then again.... 20 alt accounts payed by a duper...that have to get banned.
20 x 16 dollars...

+ now that it's clear how many duper there are out there...
Then they would probably have to ban half the people that is still left in UO.

Im just going to join them
I am currently filling water barrels as fast as I can, while on a boat, will casting poison.

I hope to dupe my pitcher.

 

[manufacturedsoul]

Atlantic is now renamed to 'duper's paradise'

You know Atlantic is building up quite a reputation.

It's cause Atlantic is the only shard really worth playing and as such all the dupers flock to it because it has the most people and the most money. Most people on Atlantic are legit it's a pity the dupers target us simply because our shard is the best.

 

[Omnius]

atlantic is the new pacific as they say.

 

[Lady_Mina]

atlantic is the new pacific as they say.

LOL

 

[Draxous]

Thankfully Atlantic has the most diligent anti cheater population, so fencers, exploits and dupers get reported quickly. Unfortunately, that doesn't really matter if EA doesn't do anything with that information.

I heared the duping is really the worst on Atlantic.

I think Europa or Great Lakes comes in 2nd in the 'who has the most dupers on their server' list.

But Altantic is defenatly nr 1.

I really don't get how you people think up this stuff. How do you know where the dupes are being done?

Atlantic is the hub of this game. Common sense would make me think that the shards with the lowest populations and people to notice things being done are the ones exploited.

...

 

[Tomas_Bryce]

[heavy sarcasm]

How do you know it is not someone who has been gathering runics for years (including blackrocks) and just now decided to sell them?

[/heavy sarcasm]

 

[Fortyniner]

I have several BOD vendors in Luna on Atlantic. One of them only sells small BODs for Barbed kits. He hasn't sold a single BOD in weeks. I doubt whether anybody is doing BODs any more. Either that or because of the relative rarity of the large BODs all the serious BOD collectors already have multiples of all the smalls.

 

[Limlight]

They are most likely dupes...but I did get a Verite Runic Hammer when I turned in 40+ pieces of blackrock...

So, I guess theres a chance that someone gathered up 1000+ pieces of blackrock.

I know a person who turned in 850+.

 

[Halister Marner]

[heavy sarcasm]

How do you know it is not someone who has been gathering runics for years (including blackrocks) and just now decided to sell them?

[/heavy sarcasm]

Exactly!

I totally agree, it could also be a billionaire who, using alien technology, has created an army of droids on computers to farm BODS. I imagine these droids also harvest heartwood quests, buy and sell rares, and generally do their best to provide the UO community with many of the higher priced items they are in need of, as stated in Asimov's laws of robotics.

I'm convinced it's robots. What dupes?

This is also sarcasm if you can't tell

 

[Lord Kynd]

Atlantic is now renamed to 'duper's paradise'

You know Atlantic is building up quite a reputation.

only because people believe this kind of talk. well the handfull anyhow.

 

[Lord Kynd]

They are most likely dupes...but I did get a Verite Runic Hammer when I turned in 40+ pieces of blackrock...

So, I guess theres a chance that someone gathered up 1000+ pieces of blackrock.

I know a person who turned in 850+.

i got all kinds of neat stuff like this when i turned in my blackrocks.
could be from it. with some hording and desiding now is the time to sell.
maybe they horded to change the market and the game so people are not getting ripped off by 60 mil hammers ? then again maybe it's a IDOC'r thats trying to cash in on the loot they've collected ?

you never know for sure, and can not assume it's a dupe or a cheat if you do not know for sure.

witch hunts never did anygood.

 

[Vyrquenox]

They are most likely dupes...but I did get a Verite Runic Hammer when I turned in 40+ pieces of blackrock...

So, I guess theres a chance that someone gathered up 1000+ pieces of blackrock.

I know a person who turned in 850+.

i got all kinds of neat stuff like this when i turned in my blackrocks.
could be from it. with some hording and desiding now is the time to sell.
maybe they horded to change the market and the game so people are not getting ripped off by 60 mil hammers ? then again maybe it's a IDOC'r thats trying to cash in on the loot they've collected ?

you never know for sure, and can not assume it's a dupe or a cheat if you do not know for sure.

which hunts never did anygood.

Oh well, maybe this means that guy on Sonoma in Luna hawking valorite hammer made armor (obviously is made by val hammer too) by the truckload didn't just appear by mere coincidence? Like, If I got a valorite hammer, I would sit down and start knocking out the first 15 of my future vendor shop with 20 pieces of every type of armor? Hmm. No. I would try to make one specific thing for myself. But maybe if I had 50 hammers from a dupe, I might be smart enough to launder it through into random armor. (no I would still be making one specific item, but...I play the game, I don't stare at how many yellow scrolls are in my bank.

 

[Vyrquenox]

They are most likely dupes...but I did get a Verite Runic Hammer when I turned in 40+ pieces of blackrock...

So, I guess theres a chance that someone gathered up 1000+ pieces of blackrock.

I know a person who turned in 850+.

i got all kinds of neat stuff like this when i turned in my blackrocks.
could be from it. with some hording and desiding now is the time to sell.
maybe they horded to change the market and the game so people are not getting ripped off by 60 mil hammers ? then again maybe it's a IDOC'r thats trying to cash in on the loot they've collected ?

you never know for sure, and can not assume it's a dupe or a cheat if you do not know for sure.

which hunts never did anygood.

is that a question? I don't know which hunts never did any good. Which hunts did do any good? Which hunts are you talking about?

 

[wanderer1origin]

i got all kinds of neat stuff like this when i turned in my blackrocks.
could be from it. with some hording and desiding now is the time to sell.
maybe they horded to change the market and the game so people are not getting ripped off by 60 mil hammers ? then again maybe it's a IDOC'r thats trying to cash in on the loot they've collected ?

you never know for sure, and can not assume it's a dupe or a cheat if you do not know for sure.

which hunts never did anygood.

lennykravitz
Visitor

Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 18 Selling Gold/Val Hams/Verite Hams
Selling Gold @ $1 per Mil !! ---- 1 Billion+ @ $0.75 per

Val Hammers - 15m or $14 per, 10+ @ 13m or $12 per, 100+ @ 11m or $10 per

Verite Hammer - 8m or $7 per, 10+ @ 7m or $6 per, 100+ @ 6m or $5 per

#438-827-653

http://vboards.stratics.com/showthread.php?t=93313

 

[HeathBar]

The interesting thing is that all the Val hammers are located at the same vendor house. Coincidence perhaps?

 

[Connor_Graham]

lennykravitz
Visitor

Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 18 Selling Gold/Val Hams/Verite Hams
Selling Gold @ $1 per Mil !! ---- 1 Billion+ @ $0.75 per

Val Hammers - 15m or $14 per, 10+ @ 13m or $12 per, 100+ @ 11m or $10 per

Verite Hammer - 8m or $7 per, 10+ @ 7m or $6 per, 100+ @ 6m or $5 per

#438-827-653

http://vboards.stratics.com/showthread.php?t=93313

So this guy has enough Val hammers to advertise selling them by the 100 lot?

Yeah...they're legit....100%....yep....uh huh.....

 

[Atlantian]

Val hammers are rare. I have been collecting bods for years and have yet to get one. And how many of you have seen more than 2 val hammers on a shard other than test center? I haven't but thats just me.

 

[Cogniac]

lennykravitz

I find that hilarious because, as someone pointed out in that very thread, he kept calling RavenWinterHawk a supporter of dupes for buying runics.

 

[Lady_Rachel]

100 + Valorite Hammers and I get a discount.
How lovely.

It's too bad more than a bit of burning can't be done.

 

[Lord Kynd]

lennykravitz
Visitor

Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 18 Selling Gold/Val Hams/Verite Hams
Selling Gold @ $1 per Mil !! ---- 1 Billion+ @ $0.75 per

Val Hammers - 15m or $14 per, 10+ @ 13m or $12 per, 100+ @ 11m or $10 per

Verite Hammer - 8m or $7 per, 10+ @ 7m or $6 per, 100+ @ 6m or $5 per

#438-827-653

http://vboards.stratics.com/showthread.php?t=93313

ok i was tired and spelled witch wrong

and how do you know this post is legit ?
have you bought 1 billion gold from this person? have you bought 100 val hammers at one time off this person ?
i've seen alot of people post crap for sale's just to see who's paying attention.
last one i saw was from a mod posting about vine cord sandies ....
it wasn't real.

again assuming and jumping to conclusions, still not enough proof to convince me.
need proof, alot better proof than your providing.
like hmm here you can prove it this way, bring and give me 100 val hammers in one shot..
if this is a dupe then dupe the heck out of it and provide everyone on the shard's with free one's, drop on ground all over the place..


what is that saying... oh yah.. innocent untill proven guilty.

perhaps you can get the person to come here and openly admit they are cheating? that would be proof enough, but not with a newbie stratics account. untill that time where you can do this, you are pointing fingers and tossing accusations...

so, convince me. or can't you ?


i'm just not a believer.

 

[Lord Kynd]

The interesting thing is that all the Val hammers are located at the same vendor house. Coincidence perhaps?

you have seen them ?
all 100 of them ?
fully charged too ??

or are you just seeing item count's and assuming ?


there was a post about a few items and then a high end one, but the vendor item count was max for only showing a few items... well here is how you do that trick ...

take gold coin's( or simular small object) , drop one in the corner of the vendor bag, keep dropping 1 coin at a time, do not stack them into one pile... drop major item over top of coins,, 1 item now looks like 125 items.

milk chocolate candies would work too and be real hard for people to see.

i still need better proof to be convinced.

 

[The Home Guild]

So what everyone is saying is... atlantic is the dupe capital.. however we have a thing called char transfer service.. how do we know noobs aren't duping and coming to our shard thus making it appear the major dupe shard?

People come to atlantic cause we're the most populated shard and good for sales. We are the target for these dupe sales.

the end.

 

[Halister Marner]

you have seen them ?
all 100 of them ?
fully charged too ??

or are you just seeing item count's and assuming ?


there was a post about a few items and then a high end one, but the vendor item count was max for only showing a few items... well here is how you do that trick ...

take gold coin's( or simular small object) , drop one in the corner of the vendor bag, keep dropping 1 coin at a time, do not stack them into one pile... drop major item over top of coins,, 1 item now looks like 125 items.

milk chocolate candies would work too and be real hard for people to see.

i still need better proof to be convinced.

I can send off a few ICQ's and get you a screenshot of 125 valorite runics in a container if you want, would that convince you?

Quite honestly Kynd, if you don't believe there's a dupe out now, you'll never believe it, these guys aren't even bothering to hide it anymore.

 

[Halister Marner]

The interesting thing is that all the Val hammers are located at the same vendor house. Coincidence perhaps?

Even though there are dupe vendors at other Luna houses on Atlantic, the vast majority are at that house. The person that owns that house has been contacted for several weeks, and has not only allowed the vendors to stay there, but has actually let more be placed.

If there's a candidate for burning, that vendor house is definitely in the lead.

 

[Erekose]

They just don't care.
If they cared about scripters or dupers they would end them.
They know how, they just don't.

90% of scripting is done using a program that breaks every time UO is patched, so if they patched a barrel 1 tile away each day it would break that.

QFT. I've said on numerous occasions that they could stop 90% of the scripting and duping if they really had the will to do so. Especially the scripting. A tiny patch every other day would do the trick for now.