SP is the advance shard...

[Lord Kynd]

...

For some reason, I find this thread amusing.

grin ...

SP is the advance shard...
roflmao

but ...

"So then why are greater dragons on our shard? we dont need them. you are making SP to easy now and this just isn't right! everything from farming to killing players is done by 1 to 2 hits from a greater dragon.
i think we need to Delete Greater Dragons from SP plz! "

did you get owned ?
ummm...
by a tamer ???

grin ...

is that why your tamer nerfing ??

hmmm..

 

[Krystal]

lmao, i love when people from a different shard cries on our thread. they know if they came to SP they wouldn't survive lmao!

 

[EnigmaMaitreya]

...
even worse is when u run away from the dragon and ur over 5 screens away and 4 flamestrikes kill u. the tamer, 70% of the time dont know he even killed a player.
...

Your joking right? I mean that is just you kidding the UO community.

That phenomenon is by no means unique to Greater Dragons. I mean we do all know that right?

I get that all the time running around in Destard from Drakes, Dragons and Greater Dragons. You can tell them apart from the amount of Damage you take.

In the end, it doesn't make any difference. You did this thread just to insult/mock Trammel Tamers. Which of course invites them to come and insult/mock you. This of course then allows you to try to insult them with ..... and the cycle goes on and on and nothing is ever accomplished.

 

[ColterDC]

...
even worse is when u run away from the dragon and ur over 5 screens away and 4 flamestrikes kill u. the tamer, 70% of the time dont know he even killed a player.
...

That phenomenon is by no means unique to Greater Dragons. I mean we do all know that right?

I get that all the time running around in Destard from Drakes, Dragons and Greater Dragons. You can tell them apart from the amount of Damage you take.

With every post you make you do nothing but prove how little you really know.

For instance, the amount of damage a creature does with their fire breathe attack is based on their total number of hit points. Thus making a rather large difference between a drake's firebreathe and a GD's firebreathe.


People like this are the reason I rarely step foot in tram. That little invisible bubble of protection they run around in makes them think they are actually good at this game.

 

[Krystal]

Your joking right? I mean that is just you kidding the UO community.

That phenomenon is by no means unique to Greater Dragons. I mean we do all know that right?

I get that all the time running around in Destard from Drakes, Dragons and Greater Dragons. You can tell them apart from the amount of Damage you take.

In the end, it doesn't make any difference. You did this thread just to insult/mock Trammel Tamers. Which of course invites them to come and insult/mock you. This of course then allows you to try to insult them with ..... and the cycle goes on and on and nothing is ever accomplished.

what??? first off i did not make this post to make fun of trammies. yas do that on ur own! like with this post. im talking about SP there is no trammie land on sp...
second off... u know what im not even gonna bother.
i made this post about not having G. dragons on SP cause they are to powerful.

lets compare a tamer vs non tamer:
my weapon a bow is capped at 35 damage and does around 8 fire damage. a tamer's weapon the greater dragon does 40 to 80 damage and 80+ dam of fireball, plus it can shoot spells over 4 screens away and also has a bleed attack. while my weapon can only shot a range of 10. i have 90 hp a dragon has over 700 hp, a dragon can dump spells on u with no delay, a mage has a delay even with 2/6 casting. a tamer can stay hidden and have his pet attack u, i cant stay hidden when my bow attacks u. i have to use my pbd on my weapon, a tamer dont have to use a pbd on his weapon, the dragon.

 

[Salty Pete]

Siege Perilous is made out of people.

 

[Lady-Tor]

I dont play Siege, I dont PvP and my main char is a tamer however i still feel the need to ask somthing here. Isnt any new stuff good? I mean any added content to the game no matter what it is is always good in my opinion. Dont flame me here, im after an explenation, not a flaming, i just dont understaind. Their not that powerfull.

 

[Masuo Kenji]

I dont play Siege, I dont PvP and my main char is a tamer however i still feel the need to ask somthing here. Isnt any new stuff good? I mean any added content to the game no matter what it is is always good in my opinion. Dont flame me here, im after an explenation, not a flaming, i just dont understaind. Their not that powerfull.

New content is always good, but for this specific case on Siege, it doesn't work as well (in the case of Greater Dragons).

For the prodo shards, it's not as bad because most people just PvM, and those who PvP wear Artied-out suits.

On Siege, a majority of us wear GM leather armor. Sure, you can wear an artied out suit, but it would be like painting a red target on yourself, since there's no insurance (you can only siege bless one item at a time). You'd lose all that stuff faster than you can say "bank" or "guards".

A majority of the tamers on Siege are PvPers. Sure, there are a few that just farm items, but it's only a few. When you're fighting a guild that has 2-3 greater dragons on the field, and those tamers are ninja dismounters, it causes some serious problems when you're dismounted, and hit with a fireball for 83 damage.

The tactics available are discording the greater dragon (that is, if you have a discorder available), or zerg rushing the tamer, if you can get close enough and they don't spot you before you all run in.

Maybe a good balance would be that they should let PvM damage stay the same, but when pets hit other players they should nerf the amount of damage done to the player.

 

[EnigmaMaitreya]

what??? first off i did not make this post to make fun of trammies.

admit it, you just wanted to use the phrase "Lamer Tamer"

i'm on to you!

lamer tamers are only ones that would argue this! :loser:

You should cover your tracks better if your going to lie.

In doing so, you encourage them to come and well just .... well treat you with the respect you .... clearly demonstrate you want.

 

[EnigmaMaitreya]

...or zerg rushing the tamer...

Or Archer the Tamer .... dont you think? Do Archer have NO special moves/tactics on SP?

OR is it as you implied, well maybe but they are to afraid to lose the items, so they sit on display some where.

So the argument would be, Well I have the means to defeat the Tamer+GD BUT I wont RISK that means, so I will ask EAMythic to Beat the Tamers for me.

I have left you a path for rebuttal, it is the solution that brings equality.

Besides even if one does not want that balance to be .... You know it isn't like Greater Dragons Spawn all over UO's territory. They are in a pretty small section .... Or are we going to hear that EAMythic has such great love for tamers that yet again they have been given special abilities to transfer Greater Dragons in to SP. Well if not, then perhaps one might want to consider ..... the source. BUT WAIT, wouldn't that be a pretty risky proposition on its own? I mean those Nasty WILD Greater Dragons do NOT discriminate tamer vs non tamer and the Wyverns can't be tamed and those pesky Drakes, and the Size envious Regular Dragons can do .... some damage as well.

Well on second thought it might be clear to stay away from the .... more fearsome spawns.

 

[Krystal]

You should cover your tracks better if your going to lie.

In doing so, you encourage them to come and well just .... well treat you with the respect you .... clearly demonstrate you want.

i didn't know "lamer tamer" was the same as "trammie tamer" lmao
i just liked the phrase

 

[gmcbroom]

Krystal,
You just need to wear the proper gear to kill the GD and make sure the others in your group do the same. Then, have one or 2 others gank the PvP tamer. Use Detect Hidden then use Tracking when they to hide again. It can be done. Tactics, Tactics, Tactic...use them.
Now stop crying about it and kill a tamer. Life isn't fair why should the game be any different. Oh, and try not to upset the Trammie. k?

Tel

 

[ColterDC]

Then, have one or 2 others gank the PvP tamer.

Do you not even see the flaw in this arguement when you are posting it?

Why should it require a group to kill 1 person?

Every time someone post this "tactic" it just further proves the point that these GD's are overpowered.

 

[MoonglowMerchant]

Krystal,
You just need to wear the proper gear to kill the GD and make sure the others in your group do the same. Then, have one or 2 others gank the PvP tamer. Use Detect Hidden then use Tracking when they to hide again. It can be done. Tactics, Tactics, Tactic...use them.
Now stop crying about it and kill a tamer. Life isn't fair why should the game be any different. Oh, and try not to upset the Trammie. k?

Tel

I believe Coulter already addressed this however, I feel it deserves repeating.

You just accurately described a scenario where a Siege tamer with a greater dragon can be killed.

In your scenario, you have a GROUP of well equipped PvP'ers fighting the dragon while one or two others gank the tamer. Additionally, you need a detecter to find the tamer.

That is a minimum of four to five players needed to combat one.

Do you see how you just accidentally but correctly proved the entire point of the thread?

 

[timbeOFbaja]

Actually, I figured out a fix for this issue that should make everybody happy.

 

[Ender]

Actually, I figured out a fix for this issue that should make everybody happy.

Impossible. Nothing could ever make everybody happy, especially with all the whiners on UHall.

 

[EnigmaMaitreya]

I believe Coulter already addressed this however, I feel it deserves repeating.

You just accurately described a scenario where a Siege tamer with a greater dragon can be killed.

In your scenario, you have a GROUP of well equipped PvP'ers fighting the dragon while one or two others gank the tamer. Additionally, you need a detecter to find the tamer.

That is a minimum of four to five players needed to combat one.

Do you see how you just accidentally but correctly proved the entire point of the thread?

Wow, what can one say, When it suits you, you say the Tamer is busy casting and dismounting and stealing and stealing and hiding and archering and sword fighting and mace fighting and well every thing.

Wow, well ..... The anecdote was to show how easy it is to kill a tamer and of course right on queue the "I am clueless how to fight a Tamer+GD" exaggerate it to the level of "AH we won they admitted it" with extreme ignorance on their part in rewriting the anecdote. I do mean that in the best possible manner

What was being said, not that you were listening, was that taking down the tamer was the key.

Oh heck, why NOT. YOU proved you knew this all along and KNEW how to do this all along and have just been trying to DESTROY TAMERS. You admitt this by saying the Tamer is in hiding and YOU must devote ALL YOUR RESOURCES to finding him while the GD Teleports to each and every one of you and One Hits you then Moves ON to the Next one all the while the Tamer is Hiding, Stealing, Stealing, Ninjaing, Macing, Swording, Fencing, Poisoning, Inscribing, Alcehmying, Tinkering, Tailoring, Blacksmithing your defeat. ALL being done while HIDDEN and being 1000% resisting your detection.

You have proven everything. and I do mean that in the best possible way.

Make a Tamer and have NO TOTOAL SKILL CAP, then YOU TO can be UBER.

Go to Destard and watch a solo Archer take down a GD in less than 10 Bolts. REMEMBER NOW, you have the Tamer HIDING AND GIVING NO COMMANDS. Oh and if you do BE VERY AFRAID that is a WILD Greater Dragon, not a Wuss Tamed one. Be VERY VERY VERY Afraid

 

[Connor_Graham]

This entire argument has gotten asinine.

The plain & simple truth of the matter is that GD's can do 70 damage with a single attack against 70 resist. This far exceeds any damage caps put in place to balance PvP, and needs to be changed.

It doesn't matter if there are tactics to take out the Tamer or not, this one thing is proof enough that GD's are overpowered and need a nerf.

Period, end of story.

 

[EnigmaMaitreya]

This entire argument has gotten asinine.

The plain & simple truth of the matter is that GD's can do 70 damage with a single attack against 70 resist. This far exceeds any damage caps put in place to balance PvP, and needs to be changed.

It doesn't matter if there are tactics to take out the Tamer or not, this one thing is proof enough that GD's are overpowered and need a nerf.

Period, end of story.

This plain simple truth of yours is WRONG.

Can does not equal ALWAYS which is the basis for argueing for a NERF.

It CAN Teleport it does NOT always teleport.

FAR more over powering than a GD is an Archer. BUT one needs to look at the Total DPS in a 10 second window. That archer is going to reliably exceed any damage the GD is going to do in the majority of 10 second winds and I aint talking 50.1 vs 49.9 I am talking 99% vs 1%.

There is zero justification to NERF tamers in Fel/Siege based singularly on the ability to hit hard. NOT when Archers can do what they do.

So your simple TRUTH is far from simple or true.

 

[ColterDC]

Go to Destard and watch a solo Archer take down a GD in less than 10 Bolts.

Now go to Fel Destard and watch the GD kill the archer in less than 2 seconds

 

[Connor_Graham]

This plain simple truth of yours is WRONG.

Can does not equal ALWAYS which is the basis for argueing for a NERF.

And that's where you're wrong.

"CAN" most definitely means that it CAN, and needs to be adjusted regardless of how often it might happen, the fact is that it does, and that goes against PvP balance.

It CAN Teleport it does NOT always teleport.

Teleport has absolutely nothing to do with what I said.

FAR more over powering than a GD is an Archer. BUT one needs to look at the Total DPS in a 10 second window. That archer is going to reliably exceed any damage the GD is going to do in the majority of 10 second winds and I aint talking 50.1 vs 49.9 I am talking 99% vs 1%..

Once again, damage over time has nothing to do with what I said. When Archers COULD hit for 70 points of damage, just like WoD could, they were nerfed.

And why were they nerfed?

Because they exceeded the damage caps that are in place to balance PvP.

The firebreath from a GD is no different. It's a single attack that exceeds the damage caps. No ifs, ands, or buts about it.

It, can, does, or will exceed the single hit cap in a single hit. End of story.

There is zero justification to NERF tamers in Fel/Siege based singularly on the ability to hit hard. NOT when Archers can do what they do.

So your simple TRUTH is far from simple or true.

I wasn't discussing Archers, I was discussing GD's. Archery is a completely different template and has nothing to do with the firebreath of GD's.

 

[EnigmaMaitreya]

I wasn't discussing Archers, I was discussing GD's. Archery is a completely different template and has nothing to do with the firebreath of GD's.

You CAN try discuss something with NO context as in a vacuum, lucky you if you CAN get away with it.

So if an Archer does 50 Damage every 2.4 seconds (say 100 every 10 seconds RELIABLY) and a GD CAN do 70 (not a given) but averages 30 every 10 Seconds, then your claiming the GD is Greatly Overpowering.

Nice try and if you CAN get away with that con all the more power to you.

= CAN is NOT equal to always, which you said is wrong. Meaning CAN is equal to always.

 

[Connor_Graham]

You CAN try discuss something with NO context as in a vacuum, lucky you if you CAN get away with it.

Comparing a single hit with DPS isn't context, it's comparing apples to oranges. If you want context compare a single hit to a single hit, and every time any other class has had the ability to hit for more than the PvP damage cap, it's been adjusted to fall in line with it. The GD firebreath is no different in this matter. It can hit for 70, the cap is 35, so it's needs an adjustment since it can do double the damage allowed by the cap. That's pretty straightforward.

So if an Archer does 50 Damage every 2.4 seconds (say 100 every 10 seconds RELIABLY) and a GD CAN do 70 (not a given) but averages 30 every 10 Seconds, then your claiming the GD is Greatly Overpowering.

No. I didn't say anything about DPS or DOT. I said a single hit can result in 70 damage to 70 resist. THAT is what is overpowered.

Single hit.

Over damage cap.

Overpowered.

Needs adjustment.

Nice try and if you CAN get away with that con all the more power to you.

I won't need to get away with anything. The math is quite simple, and I'm sure the Dev's will make the adjustment sooner or later. Hell, anytime DC and any other PvP'rs agree with me wholeheartedly on a PvP matter, I'd be willing to bet the bank on it.

= CAN is NOT equal to always, which you said is wrong. Meaning CAN is equal to always.

Wrong. What I said was "Always" isn't the basis for requireing a nerf. "CAN" is all that's needed.

70 damage hits CAN and DO happen. They don't have to always happen, just the fact that they do is enough.

 

[ColterDC]

Connor 1
Enigma 0


Enigma really needs to play this game for more than 4 months before running his mouth so much.

 

[AEowynSP]

Then, have one or 2 others gank the PvP tamer.

Do you not even see the flaw in this arguement when you are posting it?
Why should it require a group to kill 1 person?
Every time someone post this "tactic" it just further proves the point that these GD's are overpowered.

Actually a 1 vs 1 with a greater draggy on Siege is a losing battle for the tamer. Far to many ways to combat it. Inviz, chug inviz pot, smokebomb, hang up the draggy on a corner. This however is seldome the case because people run around PvPing in groups.

Krystal I agree with you totally that pets do NOT belong in PvP as an offensive weapon.

 

[ColterDC]

Actually a 1 vs 1 with a greater draggy on Siege is a losing battle for the tamer. Far to many ways to combat it. Inviz, chug inviz pot, smokebomb, hang up the draggy on a corner.

You must be fighting some pretty stupid tamers.

Not to mention 3 of the ways you listed to "combat" a tamer don't have anything to do with combat. They're ways to hide, which doesn't do anything towards killing the GD or tamer.

 

[Krystal]

Krystal,
You just need to wear the proper gear to kill the GD and make sure the others in your group do the same. Then, have one or 2 others gank the PvP tamer. Use Detect Hidden then use Tracking when they to hide again. It can be done. Tactics, Tactics, Tactic...use them.
Now stop crying about it and kill a tamer. Life isn't fair why should the game be any different. Oh, and try not to upset the Trammie. k?

Tel

u hang around with the most tamers in SP, so ya i can see ur point! *shakes head*

 

[galefan2004]

I don't play the shard so I know I mean nothing to you cause you only care about people that play your shard, but I really don't see how you can balance greater dragons and SP. Most of the people on SP aren't rocking the uber suits, and greater dragons normally kill 1 or 2 people in an uber suit even after the tamer is dead.

 

[galefan2004]

How about they do what should of been done from the start with G draggys and make them non-tamable, that stop it from being to easy for tamers yes? IMO they should do it on every shard...

Your opinnion is rediculous. You see the problem is that before Greater Dragons tamers were relatively fine. They made due without GDs and did pretty much everything they do now with other pets. Cus were the primary tank pet and the beetle was the primary damage pet. However, now that they introduced GDs its a little late to take them off of production shards. If your comment is from a PvP stand point then come up with a better solution (pets that die in PvP have a 24 hour res pentalty where they can't be ressed for 24 hours or something like that).

Now that GDs are in the game its going to be hard for developers to take them out. They shouldn't have added them in the first place if they thought they were to oped. Apparently, the developers believed them to be balanced, and as usual some of the players don't agree.

 

[galefan2004]

SP also needs permadeath.

Permadeath on SP would be an awesome idea, but they need to speed up the process it takes to make a character.

 

[galefan2004]

not sure how one equates a weapon with a superdragon, but good to see siege perilous has the same problems with wannabe-pvpers that every shard has. people! saying 'all attack' does NOT make you a pvper.

With the unbalances and cheats used by almost (if not) every major PvPer in this game if you want to be a real PvPer then this is not the game for you.

 

[galefan2004]

lmao, i love when people from a different shard cries on our thread. they know if they came to SP they wouldn't survive lmao!

I love when SP people make this claim then refuse to come to production shards or even to TC to prove how "1337" they are.

 

[Thrand Graywolf]

A GD in the hands of a tamer is wrong.

They aren't the only things.

The problem with taming is that it takes few skills, comparatively, and then you have a creature that can sit there and absorb ridiculous amounts of damage, totally throwing off high end PVM, with very little risk to the tamer.

Unfortunately...they have so beefed up the high end PVM that sometimes you just about have to have tamers with super pets around to stand any real chance of killing the big monster.

Pets, and the highest end critters, both need their stats trimmed down to sane levels. Instead of just tossing half a million hit points on something and making it hit for 500 damage a whack...make it difficult by giving it smarts. Or numbers.

I really enjoy fighting Ophidians with a good group. Single ophidians aren't bad enough to be a serious problem...but they spawn in such huge numbers that even with a good group the area can be a challenge, and one slip up can mean you're dead, so they are suitably dangerous. Especially the blackrock infected ones...

 

[MatrixCubed]

Do you really get PK'ed on Siege?

I remember a time when you couldn't go anywhere or do anything without being attacked but those days are long gone.

What we have now are PvP'ers, not PK'ers.

PvP'ers just want to fight other PvP'ers on a relatively equal playing field.

They don't want to fight rune beetles, or dragons, or hiryus, or cu's. That is PvM.

Did you really ask that?? SP doesn't have pkers? Then who the hell are those raiding spawns and attacking blues? Who's camping say...the Wisp dungeon? If SP only had PVPers that only want to pvp...they'd all be in factions. And yeah, I played way back when on Chessy...a blue that lived in Alice Cooper's 'hood and Puffy was the most notorious PK of all...merciless...SP is fun but with RoT it's a bit trammy...took a year of playing 14 hrs a day to 7x a mage on Chessy in '98...want to lvl the playing field? 7x only...700skill pts...no uber anything 225 stats...hey wait...that's t2a! Still hasn't happened...

 

[FrejaSP]

Ignore that troll named EnigmaMaitreya

 

[FrejaSP]

Originally Posted by Krystal
lmao, i love when people from a different shard cries on our thread. they know if they came to SP they wouldn't survive lmao!

I love when SP people make this claim then refuse to come to production shards or even to TC to prove how "1337" they are.

It's very hard for a SP player to stay longer than 5 mins on a normal shard or TC with normal shards rules. Siege is a production shard too, it lost it's test status many years ago.
Surviving have also to do with the Siege ruleset, no insurance and no hiding in Trammel.
Being able to survive on a normal shard and on Siege is very different.

 

[EnigmaMaitreya]

Comparing a single hit with DPS isn't context, it's comparing apples to oranges. If you want context compare a single hit to a single hit, and every time any other class has had the ability to hit for more than the PvP damage cap, it's been adjusted to fall in line with it. The GD firebreath is no different in this matter. It can hit for 70, the cap is 35, so it's needs an adjustment since it can do double the damage allowed by the cap. That's pretty straightforward.

You CAN continue to use a extremely unrealistic situational scenario to prove anything you want.

You CAN narrow your proof to some greatly exaggerated beleif system.

You CAN disregard anything and everything but your singularity focus point and claim that Singularity Focus Point is everything there is.

You CAN do any thing you want. Wont get your squat except dismissed as totally unrealistic

Need I really quote you were you categorically state that I am WRONG in sayingf Can is NOT equal to always? Or wouldn't it just be better for you to writ that blunder off as another assertion of yours that CAN only exist in the Twilight Zone

I short you take your theoretical maybe someday if the stars and planets are aligned right possibility of a single hit and say that is over powering when bows, edged weapons, blunt weapons given their speed and damage and spell modifiers double and triple out damage your theoretical maybe someday if the stars and planets are aligned right possibility of a single hit value and think you can really convince anyone but ...

Because the real choices will be based on dps and not your theoretical maybe someday if the stars and planets are aligned right possibility of a single hit let alone your CON

But hey you CAN keep the CON running and impress the ....

 

[Tek]

How about they do what should of been done from the start with G draggys and make them non-tamable, that stop it from being to easy for tamers yes? IMO they should do it on every shard...

agreed

 

[Chardonnay]

u hang around with the most tamers in SP, so ya i can see ur point! *shakes head*

Greater dragons are just fine if we can have stealth/archers running around dimounting ppl to be ganked the greater dragons are not the problem...

LEAVE THE GREATER DRAGONS ALONE!!!

 

[Krystal]

Greater dragons are just fine if we can have stealth/archers running around dimounting ppl to be ganked the greater dragons are not the problem...

LEAVE THE GREATER DRAGONS ALONE!!!

when u are done ur char, and leave luna bank to pvp, u will see that GD are not fine the way they are

 

[Connor_Graham]

You CAN continue to use a extremely unrealistic situational scenario to prove anything you want.

You CAN narrow your proof to some greatly exaggerated beleif system.

You CAN disregard anything and everything but your singularity focus point and claim that Singularity Focus Point is everything there is.

You CAN do any thing you want. Wont get your squat except dismissed as totally unrealistic

Need I really quote you were you categorically state that I am WRONG in sayingf Can is NOT equal to always? Or wouldn't it just be better for you to writ that blunder off as another assertion of yours that CAN only exist in the Twilight Zone

I short you take your theoretical maybe someday if the stars and planets are aligned right possibility of a single hit and say that is over powering when bows, edged weapons, blunt weapons given their speed and damage and spell modifiers double and triple out damage your theoretical maybe someday if the stars and planets are aligned right possibility of a single hit value and think you can really convince anyone but ...

Because the real choices will be based on dps and not your theoretical maybe someday if the stars and planets are aligned right possibility of a single hit let alone your CON

But hey you CAN keep the CON running and impress the ....

When you can actually debate this topic point by point, instead of the blithering drivel that whatever the above quoted is, please feel free to. I'd be more than happy to oblige.

Oh, and if you use just a few more smilies, people might start to believe you. You just didn't use enough this time.

 

[MoonglowMerchant]

Do you really get PK'ed on Siege?

I remember a time when you couldn't go anywhere or do anything without being attacked but those days are long gone.

What we have now are PvP'ers, not PK'ers.

PvP'ers just want to fight other PvP'ers on a relatively equal playing field.

They don't want to fight rune beetles, or dragons, or hiryus, or cu's. That is PvM.

Did you really ask that?? SP doesn't have pkers? Then who the hell are those raiding spawns and attacking blues? Who's camping say...the Wisp dungeon? If SP only had PVPers that only want to pvp...they'd all be in factions. And yeah, I played way back when on Chessy...a blue that lived in Alice Cooper's 'hood and Puffy was the most notorious PK of all...merciless...SP is fun but with RoT it's a bit trammy...took a year of playing 14 hrs a day to 7x a mage on Chessy in '98...want to lvl the playing field? 7x only...700skill pts...no uber anything 225 stats...hey wait...that's t2a! Still hasn't happened...

Raiding spawns is PvP.

Attacking people who don't expect to be attacked and who aren't prepared for PvP is PK'ing.

In the past, most PK'ing was done to farmers. There is a big shortage of farmers these days hence there isn't much PK'ing going on.

Now, if suddenly there were a bunch of people farming again the PK'ers would be right back, it is not that they don't want to PK, it is a lack of targets.

 

[Krystal]

Raiding spawns is PvP.

Attacking people who don't expect to be attacked and who aren't prepared for PvP is PK'ing.

In the past, most PK'ing was done to farmers. There is a big shortage of farmers these days hence there isn't much PK'ing going on.

Now, if suddenly there were a bunch of people farming again the PK'ers would be right back, it is not that they don't want to PK, it is a lack of targets.

got that right. i search dungeons and farming spots for hrs and im lucky to find 1 to 3 farmers:/ sometimes i dont even find any

 

[MatrixCubed]

Raiding spawns is PvP.

Attacking people who don't expect to be attacked and who aren't prepared for PvP is PK'ing.

In the past, most PK'ing was done to farmers. There is a big shortage of farmers these days hence there isn't much PK'ing going on.

Now, if suddenly there were a bunch of people farming again the PK'ers would be right back, it is not that they don't want to PK, it is a lack of targets.

May be a little late for this, but PK stands for Player Killer...murder if you will...PvP is Player vs Player a battle between players usually concensual...come to think of it...SP doesn't have PvPers..

 

[Lady_Mina]

I think i could ask the same question...

"Why are there arties on Siege?"

If you can kill a plain geared person in a few hits aswell?

I think poor people who don't have the money for expensive arties and 120 scrolls are asking the same thing...why are there arties and 120 scrolls on siege?

 

[Trep]

who ever came up with the idea to add tamable GD's should be fired......out of a cannon

 

[Lady_Mina]

Simply don't go to Luna if you want to stand a fair chance.

i think someone mentioned it earlier...that on siege..to get killed several times you either have to be stupid or go to luna.

 

[Mechanic]

Simply don't go to Luna if you want to stand a fair chance.

i think someone mentioned it earlier...that on siege..to get killed several times you either have to be stupid or go to luna.

tell me another place to go?

 

[Lady_Mina]

tell me another place to go?

Go ask Gideon in the 'your shard' thread.
He's a siege player that seems to know how to avoid being killed a trillion times a day..

But going to Luna is not it...

 

[Mechanic]

Go ask Gideon in the 'your shard' thread.
He's a siege player that seems to know how to avoid being killed a trillion times a day..

But going to Luna is not it...

sorry I was mistaken I thought you were saying there was another place to go to find PVP action without getting the GD gank