Not true. I think PB isn't that wide spread outside of online shooter games, and we all know those get huge numbers of players. Any MMORPG worth its salt is using its own client to scan for harmful programs. Thats is what I would support EA doing.
No they couldn't. It was an impossiblity. The reason they couldn't work out the terms is because EA is already bound by the terms that players of UO are playing under (when they bought the game). Sure its online gaming so game play changes, but the based rules don't change. Also, as I have said over and over...if you want to stop scripters you fix the reasons they script. If you just turn something like PB on to catch scripters its not going to stop them from scripting. You honestly believe that people actually care if they get banned or not, and I believe that at this point in the game people know the end is coming soon, so they don't really care if they have to move on tommorow or in six months.
You know what the game is. You know what it will most likely always be. It is your choice if you want to spend money on it or not given the current state of the game. Obviously, there is some reason that you still spend money on it or you wouldn't be spending money on it. If you are spending your money on this game hoping its going to magically improve then you are wasting your money.
I honestly believe that the majority of players (other than PvPers) didn't leave because of cheats. I think just as many would leave if they had to hit make last 3000 times on their own as have left because of cheats. If no one wanted to use cheats then there wouldn't be any.
UO is not WAR. UO has VERY little weight in the scheme of things. The last time the majority of gamers really cared what happened in UO was in 2001.
If you knew anything about DAoC you would know that it has a 0 tolerance policy when it comes to cheating. The average time you can get away with a cheat in that game is 2-3 weaks before they fix and ban anyone that they logged using it. They have banned mass numbers of accounts for cheating on repeated occasions. EA is not making WAR...Mythic is. I believe that UO was just thrust upon Mythic when EA decided to cut almost all funding to it. I'm highly doubting that Mythic actually cares about UO at all.
This is how I see the event progressing also. I think its a storyline arc which will eventually lead to the armagedon of UO. At least they are nice enough to send UO out in style.
I think most people are realistic about UO having maybe 1-2 years left, and I think the vast majority would welcome a UO2 that learned from UOs mistakes and took up where UO left off.
Last I checked the crafting UI didn't actually work. I tried make all and that didn't work. I tried chosing the numbers to make and that didn't work. I said screw it and went back to using 2D with UOA. You act like people that dislike the KR client never played it.
Right! According to MMORGChart Ultima Online has 75.000 active subscribers. (Ok, WoW has about 10 mil. but the three next following only have 1 mil.) That's not bad for a ten year old game. It has far more than Vanguard or D&D online. Interesting that even games with only a few thousand subscription are still running for years.
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Well I would hope that no games developer would rank dealing with cheats as a magic improvement, for their own sakes. But with EA, after 9 years, nothing surprises me.
I never said the majority left because of cheating, ever... But people have and continue to leave because of cheating. I've also said it umpteen times now too - EA need to change the game so cheating is less "necessary" for certain players, as well as banning the cheats.
I didn't say UO was the most well known game in history now, did I? But the thing is, whether you agree or not, reputation passes through a company's customers to those around them. If they love the company, they'll recommend it. If it sucks they do the opposite. UO has customers, past and present. My friends who are ex UOers haven't seen UO for years, yet still don't think a lot about EA and don't recommend them. I sure don't. So by doing what EA do, they've lost some word-of-mouth recommendations. Not ground breaking necessarily, but a customer is a customer. They all pay money. I wouldn't take any chances if I was planning to compete with games like WoW, but that's just me.
Yeah, I was aware of Mythic's reputation, thanks. The proof will be in the pudding as to how long that lasts under the ownership of EA. Argue otherwise if you like, but nobody will know till WAR is launched, running for a while and trying to ride out against the competition.
Interesting that you bring up that "point" about DAoC acting so swiftly ...
snap:Now I remember ... k r ...
.... whole lot of "pieces of the puzzle" ought to fall into place ...lol , are you saying that even at your '190ish' to oceania[my cable to pacific was about 220ish] that you could keep in front of me at 30ish ping?
Pacific SHOULD equal Baja ... both are in the west coast cluster ... and in the space of your two postings ... some 130ms just "dissappeared"
It seems u just be argumentative then. I originally was saying this guy from Baja was outrunning me on my home shard of oceania and you came here saying that u probably could keep up with me and what not, nothing to do with the context of what I was saying.At first I thought u were justifying ppl who hack, thus making me wonder about you in the subject matter. Now however it seems you just be argumentative so it is not as bad as my intial conclusion about your points.
Nonsense. A ToS can change at any time. Someone can correct me if I am wrong, but the ToS you are supposed to read when you sign up for an account in UO has changed more than once since UO was released. All that would be required would be a ToS that you have to agree to before you can start the game, similar to what WoW has, and I believe with WoW that agreement is displayed every time there is a major patch.
Though if you compare UO with other MMO's you'll find that the good ones are clearly fighting cheats on an ongoing basis, which makes their customers feel that action is being taken. We all accept that cheating is a fact of life in games, but it's how a company responds that's important.
UO is currently at the coughing and wheezing stage. EA do need to address basic issues like cheating in order to keep their customer base. I'm sure the game could be kept online for a long time, but for EA to invest heavily in developing it further, we really need a good supply of active accounts. Not to mention those other games out there, each of which can snag some of UO's players if EA don't keep them happy. UO isn't the only MMORPG.
Nobody is jumping over UO's gravestone, simply inserting a boot up the backside of EA before one needs to be made up.
Heh, care to hand over your blinkers and optimism tablets? Just because you can't see the problems or don't understand the impact cheating has on UO, doesn't mean neither exist.
Another line that's banded around these discussions constantly. EA can simply issue warnings and 24hr bans first, if a player is still not "getting it" after that, ban them. There are ways of dealing with cheats, and there's ignoring the issue.
Because it wouldn't have worked. It would have caught the cheats you think we can't afford to lose - those who can't write their own scripts and use certain programs to train or gather resources. They'd be easy to snag. The hardcore players would simply have written scripts and programs which bypassed Punkbuster, thus it was pointless.
rolleyes: highlighted "what you said" ...
And HERE is where the 130 "dissapeared" (quoted and bolded and colored)
Again ... What a perfect example of "the problem" ....GM's probably get a LOT of the same ...