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NEWS [UO.Com] Server Migration for the Week of January 13th, 2025

Izzy MBC

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Imagine choosing to DDOS MMORPG servers, that's what you choose to do with your life. In 50 years time the person(s) involved may be on their death beds, recollecting this ******** digital siege.

Destabilising game servers. Lord, give me strength.
 

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Archnight

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He gets players and shard owners to pay him to stop. I know of one shard owner who paid him like $300 to go away.
I'm still unsure this is all related... cuz when was the last time the shard went down this much and during a scheduled server migration too? I've seen those trolls claiming it was them in discord but like there's also many trolls in gen chat everyday saying a bunch of none sense. I've only seen bad crashing and reverts during big idocs as of late and I have my theories on that one cuz a certain idocer that seems to find himself on top when it's the case...
 

mihali

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I was just on ATL about 10 minutes, then *poof* disconnected, so then back again and on again. Was at about 7:15 pm CT. I gather he must have just finished flipping hamburgers at McDonald's and now back home again to start harassing us. A juvenile delinquent, who does not care if he gets his family in trouble. Who else would do this? Definitely not a good thing during fighting in the invasions in the game. So will call it a night for now at least. This takes the cake.:mad:
 

mihali

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So hopefully we will not be subjected to this next week with migration over and hopefully better protection of the services? If not, anyone has an idea how long this type of nonsense can last? Any precedent to this?
 

Anon McDougle

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So hopefully we will not be subjected to this next week with migration over and hopefully better protection of the services? If not, anyone has an idea how long this type of nonsense can last? Any precedent to this?
Sneaky said been fighting him a year..
 

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Anyone else having trouble with the official forums this morning. Page isn’t loading at all after being slow to start.
 

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is this a daytime only thing?
i was on last night for a couple hours and had no issues whatsoever (all shards)
a guild mate has been on Origin all week and said he had no issues - im guessing since it is already on the new cloud server?
 

Ivory Norwind

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And tonight Atlantic flies away too. Is it possible that this happens every day? And only with Atlantic? Is there really nothing that can be done?
 

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i was playing tonight and had no issues at all.
 

AntyvasII

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I was disconnected 4 or 5 times from about 9pm Eastern time to 4am, each with 15 minute or so reverts. Might have happened more but I went back to Pac for a bit when Atl wasn't on the list.
 

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It's a historical attack? And it is attacks! and we all know I believe in acknowledgement and accountability not please be patient..
What is the outcome you’re hoping to get from doing that?

They report on it and then what?

I don’t think it’ll change anything that they’re not already doing.
 

Anon McDougle

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What is the outcome you’re hoping to get from doing that?

They report on it and then what?

I don’t think it’ll change anything that they’re not already doing.
I think it's the developers responsibility to communicate with the player base?
 

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I think it's the developers responsibility to communicate with the player base?
Im not disagreeing, but I don’t see how getting massivelyop to report on this is going to change that.

I think most people by now know what is occurring despite the vague response from the devs. (Again I agree this doesn’t absolve them from reporting it). I just don’t see how massively reporting on it will help.
 

Anon McDougle

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Im not disagreeing, but I don’t see how getting massivelyop to report on this is going to change that.

I think most people by now know what is occurring despite the vague response from the devs. (Again I agree this doesn’t absolve them from reporting it). I just don’t see how massively reporting on it will help.
Because it's easy for Mesanna to be herself in the dark
 

Ivory Norwind

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I was disconnected 4 or 5 times from about 9pm Eastern time to 4am, each with 15 minute or so reverts. Might have happened more but I went back to Pac for a bit when Atl wasn't on the list.
Well, sometimes I feel like I'm the only one who still has problems :(
 

Ivory Norwind

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Im not disagreeing, but I don’t see how getting massivelyop to report on this is going to change that.

I think most people by now know what is occurring despite the vague response from the devs. (Again I agree this doesn’t absolve them from reporting it). I just don’t see how massively reporting on it will help.
If no one spoke up you would never know it was still happening.
 

shootgun

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Because it's easy for Mesanna to be herself in the dark
Yeah, only if we had a way of somehow getting Mesanna accountable. It's my humble opinion her personality is the sole reason UO has been going down the drain for the last 7-8 years.

I agree with you, if we can get some publicity on this issue, it will be easier for some higher up to step in and put someone with better skills in charge.
 
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Ivory Norwind

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I continue to write when Atlantic goes away. It's already been 5 minutes and there's an invasion in Skara.

Atlantic hasn't returned yet and now Europa is missing too. I think I speak for many. We're a little tired of this situation......
 
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They have been using AWS for a while now. Even before the migration to the new hardware.

At this point, one of the following must be true:
  • They lack the know-how to properly integrate AWS shield advanced to their servers.
  • They don't want to pay for AWS shield advanced because it would lower their profit margin.

I can't think of any other explanation.

AWS shield advanced is a proven DDOS solution with proven track record of success. It is able to mitigate OSI layer 3 and layer 4 attacks.

Since both the game servers and AWS shield instances are hosted on the same AWS data center, the additional lag should be reasonable.

All of that being said, right now UO has 4 people. If what I read online is right then they are not very knowledgeable about technical stuff.

No wonder a script kiddie is able to take down all of their servers for 2-3 weeks now.
 
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They have been using AWS for a while now. Even before the migration to the new hardware.

At this point, one of the following must be true:
  • They lack the know-how to properly integrate AWS shield advanced to their servers.
  • They don't want to pay for AWS shield advanced because it would lower their profit margin.

I can't think of any other explanation.

AWS shield advanced is a proven DDOS solution with proven track record of success. It is able to mitigate OSI layer 3 and layer 4 attacks.

Since both the game servers and AWS shield instances are hosted on the same AWS data center, the additional lag should be reasonable.

All of that being said, right now UO has 4 people:
  • Mesanna, no higher education, no engineering skills. Previous job experience is answering the phones as a customer service.
  • Mesanna's husband, no higher education, no engineering skills. Previous job experience is god knows what.
  • Kyronix, no higher education, no engineering skills. Previous job experience is being a GM.
  • The other dev, I don't know much about this guy. If I'm not mistaken, he was a fresh hire out of school.
No wonder a script kiddie is able to take down all of their servers for 2-3 weeks now.
They should just pay some professional services costs for a aws security guy to configure it.

They probably need to go cap in hand to EA for funds, and I don’t suppose they want to put their heads above the parapet and show them how incompetent they are being taken out by a kid.
 

shootgun

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They should just pay some professional services costs for a aws security guy to configure it.

They probably need to go cap in hand to EA for funds, and I don’t suppose they want to put their heads above the parapet and show them how incompetent they are being taken out by a kid.
My company provides that service. We actually employ one of the best security guy I have ever seen and I attended black hat in Las Vegas before. So it's very hard to impress me when it comes to network security. Admittedly, we mostly focus on OSI layer 5, 6, and 7 but this type of AWS shield advanced integration or any kind of integration with a DDOS mitigation service is something we can easily do.

Normally, I would not mind doing it free of charge for a game I enjoy playing.

With that being said, there is a lot of bad blood between me and UO and there is no way in hell I would do it for our narcissist in control even if they decide to pay triple the hourly rate. Also, I did not hear about UO/Broadsword hiring external consultants in the past. I don't think that is something they do often.

Edit: They just closed multiple topics discussing this on the official forums. So, I doubt this is going to be solved anytime soon. In the meantime, come join us at New World MMO. The season 7 is starting tomorrow. It is a blast although the end game is a bit lacking. I'm 400 hours in and I still enjoy it daily.
 
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All of that being said, right now UO has 4 people. If what I read online is right then they are:
  • Mesanna, no higher education, no engineering skills. Previous job experience is answering the phones as a customer service.
  • Mesanna's husband, no higher education, no engineering skills. Previous job experience is god knows what.
  • Kyronix, no higher education, no engineering skills. Previous job experience is being a GM.
  • The other dev, I didn't read much about this guy. If I'm not mistaken, he was a fresh hire out of school.
No wonder a script kiddie is able to take down all of their servers for 2-3 weeks now.
So 2 Nepo Babies, one guy who tries, but obviously can't do it all alone and the one guy who actually does the code work? Sadly that sounds like every tech related company these days, especially in the gaming sphere. Not at all discounting you or your companies work, just seems to be the actual state of affairs we find ourselves in all too often these days.

Edited to be fair to Kyronix. From everything I've seen, he at least tries. The only time I ever seen Mesanna is when she's lecturing/screaming at the player base.
 
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Rimeny

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My company provides that service. We actually employ one of the best security guy I have ever seen and I attended black hat in Las Vegas before. So it's very hard to impress me when it comes to network security. Admittedly, we mostly focus on OSI layer 5, 6, and 7 but this type of AWS shield advanced integration or any kind of integration with a DDOS mitigation service is something we can easily do.

Normally, I would not mind doing it free of charge for a game I enjoy playing.

With that being said, there is a lot of bad blood between me and UO and there is no way in hell I would do it for our narcissist in control even if they decide to pay triple the hourly rate. Also, I did not hear about UO/Broadsword hiring external consultants in the past. I don't think that is something they do often.

Edit: They just closed multiple topics discussing this on the official forums. So, I doubt this is going to be solved anytime soon. In the meantime, come join us at New World MMO. The season 7 is starting tomorrow. It is a blast although the end game is a bit lacking. I'm 400 hours in and I still enjoy it daily.
Closing multiple topics on the official forums with no updates from them?

 

Ivory Norwind

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Why is this closed? I just connected and was surprised.... Atlantic isn't there. I've said it and I do it, every time I realize it I write. Block me on the forum but what is happening is unacceptable and unacceptable.
 

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Still ongoing then.

Someone maybe interested

Let's hope not. If Garriot was a such a great game manager, his post-UO titles would have been more successful. That's not to take away from what he founded with Origin Systems, but I think UO would be closer to the end under his management than under the current leadership.
 

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Well again, what do you think would change not being in the dark?
Nothing, we all know what is going on. Some like to complain about anything they can. How does complaining help then solve the issue?
 
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