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Peacemaking and animal taming

Ivory Norwind

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I've been playing for years, almost always with the tamers who are the characters I love most. I haven't had any problems on Europa and the Catskills. Here on Atlantic, however, I can no longer tame or calm a pet because it tells me immediately after I only do it once 'You must wait a few moments to use another skill' for a long time. I have two accounts and a tamer for each account. They both have the same problem. I checked the macros of the other tamers on the other shards and they are correct and fine. Above all, I don't understand why it gives me this message about both of these tamers who are on two different accounts. I checked UOAssist and there is nothing wrong. And then, I repeat, it does it to me on both accounts. This way I can't tame ANYTHING!!. A way for Atlantic to limit tamers? I don't know what to think anymore other than changing servers again and going back to the Catskills. It's not a UoAssist problem, I checked carefully. Only when I use peacemaking or animal taming does it give me that message. And of course everything blocks me. So I can't play. Any solution? I'm wrong about something (but it's strange that they're fine on other shards). I ask for help because if I don't find a solution I will be forced to change shards again. Thanks in advance!
 

Anon McDougle

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I've been playing for years, almost always with the tamers who are the characters I love most. I haven't had any problems on Europa and the Catskills. Here on Atlantic, however, I can no longer tame or calm a pet because it tells me immediately after I only do it once 'You must wait a few moments to use another skill' for a long time. I have two accounts and a tamer for each account. They both have the same problem. I checked the macros of the other tamers on the other shards and they are correct and fine. Above all, I don't understand why it gives me this message about both of these tamers who are on two different accounts. I checked UOAssist and there is nothing wrong. And then, I repeat, it does it to me on both accounts. This way I can't tame ANYTHING!!. A way for Atlantic to limit tamers? I don't know what to think anymore other than changing servers again and going back to the Catskills. It's not a UoAssist problem, I checked carefully. Only when I use peacemaking or animal taming does it give me that message. And of course everything blocks me. So I can't play. Any solution? I'm wrong about something (but it's strange that they're fine on other shards). I ask for help because if I don't find a solution I will be forced to change shards again. Thanks in advance!
Lag
 

Ivory Norwind

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I do not believe, It's not just from today. And if it's laggy I'm forced to abandon Atlantic. It's not just today that gives me this problem. And it has nothing to do with assist because if I open the client without assist it will still do it for me. And if it's true that it's laggy, what do I do? I play almost exclusively with tamers. If I don't have the pleasure of being able to tame pets, what am I playing?
 

Ivory Norwind

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Pawain, I have invisible but when you are taming, you don't succeed the first time and you have to continue several times. AND I CAN'T. Always that error message. And when I go to monsters that I have to kill but use peacemaking, it gives me that message and in the meantime the monster kills me because I can no longer pacify it. I don't know, honestly I feel really down. I brought a lot of things from Catskills, I redecorated the whole house on Atlantic and now I have to leave? I know my internet connection isn't great but on the Catskills which has a latency very similar to Atlantic, I had no problems. I am tired :(
 

Ivory Norwind

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Of course I will return to the Catskills. But the thing that saddens me is that Catskils is also 'dying'. Atlantic is one of the most active servers right now and unfortunately for my internet connection, it is not possible to play it. I'm basically a tamer and peacemaker, I play alone and taming gives me absurd latency. I always die there!! But I found so many beautiful pets, I will take them with me when I return to the Catskills. Hoping that my line will be increased in the near future. Hello everyone from an Italian who doesn't know English :) :)
 

mihali

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Of course I will return to the Catskills. But the thing that saddens me is that Catskils is also 'dying'. Atlantic is one of the most active servers right now and unfortunately for my internet connection, it is not possible to play it. I'm basically a tamer and peacemaker, I play alone and taming gives me absurd latency. I always die there!! But I found so many beautiful pets, I will take them with me when I return to the Catskills. Hoping that my line will be increased in the near future. Hello everyone from an Italian who doesn't know English :) :)
I suspect that the problem may be a lot simpler. Do no Xfe back to cats yet:
Instead POST your taming macros here, to see what maybe wrong. Also the ckient you are using maybe a factor. Are you using CC or EC? EC has some nice macros for taming. Peace taming can be tricky. I use peace in the past but area peace to stop aggro mostly, and LEAD tame mostly, and when taming actually statrs invisi and try again, invisi and try again. Takes many taming attempts usually. Are you spamming the macro? Also what you are taming is important. Use different approaches for casting monsters is different approaches than physical attack monsters. I use taming on ATL and have no issues high or low lag.
List your macros here, and lets see what you are using. Is your suit all 70's so you will survive 1 hit? Also, if your magery / eval are low, the invisi will not last long etc.
Dont transfer yet, that is a major ordeal house and all.
 

Ivory Norwind

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I suspect that the problem may be a lot simpler. Do no Xfe back to cats yet:
The macros are fine, no need to post everything. I have been playing for more than 22 years. At first on the Catskills, then on the Atlantic but my internet line was so slow that I went to the Drakenfels. And finally on Europa, where I played for at least 18 years. A few months ago, since my Internet line had become better, I went to the Catskills and now to Atlantic. Never had any problems on Europa and Catskills. Now I think something has changed in the program itself. In fact I tried to go to Europa where I still have characters and a houses and the 5 second wait is there too. Which wasn't there before. And I'm sure of it, I have 6 accounts in total, 4 of which are on Europa and since the tamer is my favorite character I have at least 7 or 8 Tamers. This afternoon I did the test and it also gives me the error 'you must wait a few moments to use another skil'. I mean in the sense that I have to wait 10 or even more before using it in Atlantic. And that's not correct. An error that in almost twenty years he has never given me using peacemaking. So it's not my problem, something has really changed in the game, perhaps with the advent of New Legacy. And maybe on Atlantic I have a little more lag but not much. However, if you're interested, I have the CC, I've always had that because I've never liked the EC and will never play it :) Anyway, thanks for your interest!!!
 

mihali

Lore Keeper
Mostly for Cusidhes for example, I have 120 real magery 120 real eval (Deathray tamer), I paralyze and immediately spam Tame from safe distance, immediately invisi before paralyze times out, rinse and repeat and then reinvisi instantly, on ATL. Lead tame the cus with constant spam tame otherwise. Other pets caster pets diff techniques. May be something changed in the peacing, I only use area since it does not fail, and mostly to stop aggro, having 120 eval and taming real 120 lore 120 helps a lot,
 

Ivory Norwind

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Mostly for Cusidhes for example, I have 120 real magery 120 real eval (Deathray tamer), I paralyze and immediately spam Tame from safe distance, immediately invisi before paralyze times out, rinse and repeat and then reinvisi instantly, on ATL. Lead tame the cus with constant spam tame otherwise. Other pets caster pets diff techniques. May be something changed in the peacing, I only use area since it does not fail, and mostly to stop aggro, having 120 eval and taming real 120 lore 120 helps a lot,
I, on the other hand, have always used, for cu sidhe or similar, peacemaking and then immediately after taming which obviously doesn't work immediately and so I use the Use skill animal taming last target macro. For years I did this, at least with tamer bards (with 120 real taming, peace, animal lore and magery, no eva int). Now, however, after peace, I use taming but if I try to do the macro I told you it doesn't let me do it immediately, I get the message to wait and in the meantime the pet attacks me. I've never tried Paralize. I'll try tomorrow!
 

mihali

Lore Keeper
People are confused she is discussing lag and People are offering advice on how to play a tamer to a 20+year tamer vet..
She is discussing problematic taming, no necessarily lag alone. We see people from Japanese and European shards taming on ATL with no major issues. It is never too late to learn new techniques even for seasoned players. Also taming is not easy unless someone tames low damage creatures. When I was taming cus on ATL spawning 100's of them, I knew that I was going to get killed at least a few times.
In short I think it may be best for her to re-evaluate taming techniques and macros prior to doing any major painstaking moves like moving her house from ATL, especially is she has shard bound items.
 

FishinFool

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I, on the other hand, have always used, for cu sidhe or similar, peacemaking and then immediately after taming which obviously doesn't work immediately and so I use the Use skill animal taming last target macro. For years I did this, at least with tamer bards (with 120 real taming, peace, animal lore and magery, no eva int). Now, however, after peace, I use taming but if I try to do the macro I told you it doesn't let me do it immediately, I get the message to wait and in the meantime the pet attacks me. I've never tried Paralize. I'll try tomorrow!
I've never been able to immediately tame after using peacemaking as it is subject to the standard skill cool-down timer. Simply waiting a few seconds to get your act together and collect your thoughts is usually sufficient. Since I don't spend hours taming nor consider it a thing that needs its own dedicated macro, I simply use my F3 / F2 combo that I've used since the dawn of time - last skill, last target. Even after a peace is broken, angry pet/what-have-you, I've found they aren't terribly aggressive and can simply be slowly walked away from as you keep trying to get the tame attempt to stick. If you're getting pelted, abort and start over.

But, regarding your previous statement - yes, atlantic sucks. Maybe this datacenter upgrade will help, but it is laggy and the shard crashes with disturbing frequency. While there is a large number of players, there is no real community. It's mostly a bunch of grifters and yew-gate clowns that think they're badasses.
 

mihali

Lore Keeper
I agree with you but:
There are many people there, and the vast majority are good players. There are few but very loud folks that never became responsible adults though in their mid-age. Agree. But not everyone and not most folks at all. It's like any large city there's bad and good. There are different communities there also. And there are visitors that like shopping there.
 

Ivory Norwind

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I reply to everyone. The wait after peacemaking was NOT there until recently. I had many tamers in different shards and there was no waiting. Furthermore, here is another wait that surprised me and made me waste a lot of time. Animal Lore. Macrato for years simply on UoAssist witht use skill target and 2000 waiting time (which is practically immediate). Here after the first time the error message starts again and lasts more than 5 seconds. It took me days to get to 120. So they changed something, it's not me or the lag that's wrong. Having said that, I continue to play on Atlantic because I have seen that it has changed on Europa and Catskills too. Fortunately, treating pets is still possible without any waiting!!!!! Just one thing, try taming a simple White Wyrm without being able to use peacemaking! My post ends here, there is no solution anyway.
Thanks everyone for trying to help me :)
 

JumboJacko

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Idk, I found mapping Tame to one of my side mouse buttons and relying on Invis does just fine for most tames. I tried peacekeeping, but even at 100, the creature would always go back to attacking before the skill use cooldown had passed and let me use Tame again (Chesapeake). Much better luck just mashing my tame macro and popping an invis as soon as "You begin to tame the creature" pops up to grant a bit of breathing room.
 

Pawain

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Idk, I found mapping Tame to one of my side mouse buttons and relying on Invis does just fine for most tames. I tried peacekeeping, but even at 100, the creature would always go back to attacking before the skill use cooldown had passed and let me use Tame again (Chesapeake). Much better luck just mashing my tame macro and popping an invis as soon as "You begin to tame the creature" pops up to grant a bit of breathing room.
Yup, I have a tame macro, just press it furiously until I see Blue words, stop pressing, either lead walk or invis, mostly invis.
 

Ivory Norwind

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That's not a simple example. Those are one of the better pets in NL. But they can have over 800 strength there.
NL is New Legacy? I don't like it, sorry :( It's not that difficult to tame them but you have to use peacemaking and immediately after use taming. If I have to wait 5 seconds (and it's more) it attacks you with spells, there's no point in running away like you do with a cu sidhe, for example. The other day, to try, I died two or three times precisely because you have to tame her only while she is calm otherwise she will attack you immediately. And I had seen a blue one, beautiful and strong and also with a strange color. It means I'll do without it :(
 

Ivory Norwind

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Yup, I have a tame macro, just press it furiously until I see Blue words, stop pressing, either lead walk or invis, mostly invis.
You do this if the pet has no magic. Otherwise he'll kill you right away. Now I have to try using invisible.
 

Pawain

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You do this if the pet has no magic. Otherwise he'll kill you right away. Now I have to try using invisible.
I'd say a Dimetrosaur is one of the more difficult things to tame.

Most things in Eodon can not be peaced or barded in any way.

Running around getting pets there, teaches you how to invis tame. You dont want to lead your target into a crowd and T rex.
 

Ivory Norwind

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I'd say a Dimetrosaur is one of the more difficult things to tame.
Most things in Eodon can not be peaced or barded in any way.
Running around getting pets there, teaches you how to invis tame. You dont want to lead your target into a crowd and T rex.
Eodon is a place where I went very little because I couldn't see it with the map. I stopped by the tigers and tamed one. Now that I have everything sorted I'll go. And it's never too late to learn to do new things anyway! Thanks Pawain :)
 

Pawain

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OK Atlantic players and the ones in the know. Lets help this player become an Atlantic citizen. Not by trying to teach her how to tame, she knows how to tame. She needs some pets on Atlantic. They dont have to have 120 scrolls. Ill bring her a Cu, @Merlin @Nails Warstein (You fell for the Allen the Axe Thief bit :) ) I tried to get you a replacement Tali.
@Lord Nabin Help a fellow player. Yall know tamers on Atl and could provide an instabond Wine for a truly fine specimen.

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Pawain

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I just transferred a bunch of pet scrolls out of Atlantic. I am laggy in Luna. Someone spawned a Giant Turkey in Luna. The guards did not attack it There were multiple casualties. es Gioant Turkeys spawn year round. Need to kill Looooots.
 

Merlin

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I am not a taming expert by any means, but happy to help you on Atlantic anyway I can. Drop me a note here on Stratics or on Discord and we can discuss further :)
 

Ivory Norwind

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I am not a taming expert by any means, but happy to help you on Atlantic anyway I can. Drop me a note here on Stratics or on Discord and we can discuss further :)
I don't have Discord. I wrote to you privately so as not to bore those who read this post too much!!
 
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