I was hunting vorpal bunnies and gm suddenly moved me to dungeon. They sent me a message saying i was abusing game mechanics and to contact support, witch no further information given. Before I could even write down the email address I was disconnected. I don't know what I did wrong? Who do I contact?
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Were you using bagballs or crates or something to entrap the bunnies?
Yes, which I didn't know we couldn't do. I only started doing it because everyone else was. Where does it say we cant to that?
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what? how was I cheating? Its a game mechanic. I wasn't using a 3rd party app or exploiting a bug. Can we use hay sheafs? Chests? Wooden boxes?
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So, where it is explicitly written down, I have no idea. It is probably somewhere. I imagine the GM handbook is much larger and nuanced than what is on the website. For me, however, it's just one of those rules that seems to pass down through the years. And, yes, sheafs, chests, wooden boxes, all count. It's always been understood that if you're impeding the movement of a mob/player, you're going to get a talking to.
I did a quick look at the FAQ on the website: Rules of Conduct – Ultima Online but didn't see anything specifically related to this. That, again, does not mean it's not somewhere.
I remembered that Mesanna herself (in one of her 9 posts on the main forum) did once comment that intentionally item blocking players on Siege Perilous wasn't allowed. would you consider this legal or illegal Take that for what you will. Whether or not you agree with her statement (and a lot of Siege players didn't) I think you could infer that if it's not allowed against players in Siege of all places it's not allowed for PVM in prodo shards.
It sucks that you were the one who got noticed when likely a ton of others on your shard and others were bagballing that very moment. If it's your first rules offense you'll probably be back in the game in hours, if not a day.
I play a few hours a month and am super casual. I don't follow pvp or pve very closely. If none of this stuff is written down and posted somewhere easy to find, how are players like me suppose dto know this stuff? It's completely unfair and insulting to someone that has given thousands of dollars over the years to give a three day suspension for something im not aware.
If your account has never been actioned before, you can email Messana directly at [email protected] and ask for a waiver. ?She's pretty cool about first-time offenders
Here is the email you get for dropping hay: Bagballs pretty much the same.
Rules of Conduct: 13) You may not use the Ultima Online Service or the Ultima Online Web Site for any activities other than activities that are permitted within the game world.
Rules of Conduct: 19) You will not exploit any bug in the Ultima Online product or the Ultima Online Service. You will not intentionally use or share any bug found within Ultima Online, whether or not it grants an unfair advantage, is real or fictitious. You will not communicate the existence of any such bug (either directly or indirectly) to any other user of the Ultima Online Service. You will report any such exploit using the bug reporting methods as described by the Ultima Online Service at http://www.uo.com/mailBug.html.
Rules of Conduct: 20) You will not intentionally accept an item that has been “bugged” or otherwise manipulated outside of the designed game mechanics from anyone inside or outside the game world. The Ultima Online team has the right to confiscate any such illegal items, even if a player had no prior knowledge of the item’s origin, no reparation will be made.
The Rules of Conduct defines that you may not use features of the Ultima Online service for any reasons other than what each feature is designed to do. Any exploitative behavior and activity is not permitted on the Ultima Online service and is strictly enforced.
Ultima Online exists only because of its community, and as that sort of anti-social behavior completely contravenes the spirit of the game, we will remove it in order to protect the rule-abiding members of the service.
If you feel that this termination is unwarranted, or if you wish to dispute the claims of this email, we ask that you please email [email protected] so that they can review any possible discrepancies of this event.
The full Service Rules of Conduct are included below:
While you are a member of the Ultima Online service, you must abide by the following rules.
I got banned as well for the same thing... they are being pretty big pricks to paying customers in a dying game.
Is there a way to see how long my punishment is?
Is there a way to see how long my punishment is?
My bad. [email protected]that email isnt working for me
years ago using bagballs or stacks of candelabras was a common thing to do in factions to seal off the bases and keep out thieves and raiders.
a complaint was made and it came down that doing that was acceptable in faction war but not in normal gameplay.
so that is how I found that out.
but really, you are exploiting a game mechanic - you can't in good conscience think that anyone here believes that any of us are naive enough to believe people doing this don't have a good guess that it's an unacceptable practice?
That's like making some pens in your house and filling them with pets so you can train provocation without the pets reaching each other.
we all know it's not a legal thing to do, and even if you didn't know you would have a good guess that it probably is.
a complaint was made and it came down that doing that was acceptable in faction war but not in normal gameplay.
so that is how I found that out.
but really, you are exploiting a game mechanic - you can't in good conscience think that anyone here believes that any of us are naive enough to believe people doing this don't have a good guess that it's an unacceptable practice?
That's like making some pens in your house and filling them with pets so you can train provocation without the pets reaching each other.
we all know it's not a legal thing to do, and even if you didn't know you would have a good guess that it probably is.
I remember way back when nightmares stopped spawning East of Delucia in the woods and started spawning under Terathan Keep people were using boxes to keep the huge mass of monsters from hitting them while they tamed them under there and they put a stop to that by making the monsters break the boxes. Not sure monsters still break stuff but that was how they solved it back then.
Part of it is a guardzone. As far as bagballs and other impassable objects: The rule has, to my knowledge, ALWAYS been that you need to leave a path available for people to exit. That was for Fel, anyway - it was a rule from the old days of pvp when candelabras would be placed in the Star Room. I imagine it would be similar for Tram - the bagballs aren't designed to keep other players out, it's designed to keep the bunnies from running all over the map. You can still pick one up and put it back down. Or teleport in if you're a mage.
You’re cheating because you’re doing something the game was not intended to let you do. Exactly what they told you.
Yeah, it generally depended on the GM and how they were feeling that day. Most of them would say it wasn’t applicable because it wasn’t in guard zone when placing in Brit base.
others would play hero and delete them all anyways.
regardless, there are people openly admitting to multi clienting and scripting etc on the main forums, and they chase the people using bagballs.
Ridiculous.
That is NOT against the rules. Using Bagballs is.
This is not Windows for workgroups 3.11 or DOS. Computers can run multiple things now. But it was nice to go take a break and say your computer is printing if the Boss asks why.
I guess to clarify, multiboxing with unattended macaroing is. I assume this also includes scripting with 3rd party programs.
people been calling UO a dying game for years now, but yet here we still are
hmm have you been in trouble is the past? or maybe you just got as bad GM, GM told me to stop using bagballs and if id continued id get in trouble, so i stopped.
Hut is def GZ but try wandering around the fenced area where the cotton grows. Can't recall but it may not be GZ. I remember tamers doing vorpals there somehow - when the bunnies were new.
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Best I could do with 3 clients (no multibox, just 3 active clients) was:
A) plant thorn with one char
B) attacklast spam on another char while standing on top of the first char.
They both swing (mage weaps, cool build i got goin) and their pets attack
Third char stands by to plant the next thorn
Was fairly productive, about 50 eggs, one hour of nothing but luck status 900+ on each and some random pieces (SS quiver on one,. Minax sandals on another, etc) however that third char not swingin is bothering me. Nothing I could really do without serious alt-tab shufflin im doin laptop with a second screen
Mind you this was on Siege also so I was constantly looking over three different shoulders lol
A) plant thorn with one char
B) attacklast spam on another char while standing on top of the first char.
They both swing (mage weaps, cool build i got goin) and their pets attack
Third char stands by to plant the next thorn
Was fairly productive, about 50 eggs, one hour of nothing but luck status 900+ on each and some random pieces (SS quiver on one,. Minax sandals on another, etc) however that third char not swingin is bothering me. Nothing I could really do without serious alt-tab shufflin im doin laptop with a second screen
Mind you this was on Siege also so I was constantly looking over three different shoulders lol
3 days i have family that plays 12 accounts 5 of us got 3 days. I have been a pker/factions for my first 18 years. I started doing tram stuff last 8 years and still a newb at tram quest events ect. I gather a bunch of us we use bag balls to trap the little rabbit and we get 3 days for easter egg hunting lol. I like the days of chopping heads off and body parts 3 days for eggs lol 1000s of bucks over the years and they banned 3 days for eggs please.
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One good thing about the EC (not trying to start a debate, simply mentioning a plus for it) is the Mobiles Bar that puts a health bar for all mobiles on the same screen as you. let's you have an instant bar for the Vorpal to start clicking on in war mode to keep it on your screen. Maybe they should put one in the CC if possible. would eliminate a lot of headaches.
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Not using this person or occurrence as a specific example, so don't start the hate responses. Just the response 'paid customers in a dying game' seems to be the entitled UO player's belief, or excuse rather, for cheating and doing things they know they aren't suppose to in game. I hear it in general chat all the time, about "they won't do anything to you if you are a subscriber!", and "They shouldn't ban anyone, they are losing money!", yada yada yada..almost always being said by the people in the wrong...lol. People should start taking responsibility for their actions and putting less blame on discipline made for those actions. It's like being one of the last few tenants left in a small apartment complex and thinking you can spray paint the walls, tear down fixtures and change the rooms just because you are "one of the last few tenants in a dying complex!". Extreme example, I know, but it's about the point. For many people that do NOT speak up, cheaters and exploiters are exactly what keep ruining UO and the game experience. Even if it isn't enforced as it should be, or as regularly, there NEEDS to be discipline...even in a 25 year old dying game
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Such BS. All that's required is a decent luck suit, knowledge on setting up a good macro(s), and green thorns. If you need more than that, maybe you just suck? Three of us have used what I just mentioned and have now gotten over 2K eggs, no exploits or cheating needed.
Not sure what template can't play... a mule? As for boring, it's only boring when you start exceeding what you need compared to what you want. 2K eggs for us was far above what any of us needed. 200 eggs each would have gotten us pretty much anything we needed, instead we are currently working on 700 each. And this is only day 4 out of 2 months? C'mon now.
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He has to complain. The bunny has 0 resists, you could kill it with a frying pan.
We showed an untrained Cu or Triton can kill them.
I see no one left out of this event unless they are too lazy to try it.
Nice to have a calm event with no stress. The keep clicking thing works, but the bunnies pile up under your feet so you cant get the right body back if you close it. lol. 3 in a party, over 1 k gold per bunny, decorative eggs for cleanup points.
We ended up using an open field now. Scenery is better.
We showed an untrained Cu or Triton can kill them.
I see no one left out of this event unless they are too lazy to try it.
Nice to have a calm event with no stress. The keep clicking thing works, but the bunnies pile up under your feet so you cant get the right body back if you close it. lol. 3 in a party, over 1 k gold per bunny, decorative eggs for cleanup points.
We ended up using an open field now. Scenery is better.
Of course Allen is wrong my fishers and t-hunters all who wear functional luck suits 24/7 have all done well but not fishing or t-hunting we're on what year 3 or 4 of these cookie cutter events that were supposedly implemented because of the ease every aspect of the game should be easily included
Just because they bring in enough money to keep UO afloat doesn't mean its not dying... Its definitely not thriving.
Let's see add one egg to supply stash and cache map 2 to hoard 3 to trove add 1-3 to pirate holds/sos chest yep OP and wanting easy button..
Or go slaughter a bunny...
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The point he's trying to make...is that nothing SPECIFIC to Treasure Hunting or Pirating has been implemented in some time.
Sure, you're fisher can go kill a bunny...but that has nothing to do with Fishing....
Sure, you're fisher can go kill a bunny...but that has nothing to do with Fishing....
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