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A fire Beetle that kills cold damage / energy damage paras (50-50 cold/phys damage), plus some versatility?

mihali

Lore Keeper
Saved Planner | uo-cah.com --for phys/cold damagers.

Saved Planner | uo-cah.com -- For energy/cold damagers, etc.

What do you guys think? Adding RC/FzWW/AI (No Aoe) I guess cannot add AoE since only 3 skills can be added? (I do not wish to add poison skill).
Thinking about the very few but annoying mobs with sensitivity to fire and 50/50 damage phys/cold, and also 50/50 energy/cold.
Will try it on TC1 next few days.
What do you folks think? Before I embark on training / skilling this bug. Ty for any comments.
This bug will be used by my Tamer/Discorder.
 
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gwen

Slightly Crazed
If mobs are already low on fire , with your discord RC will be overkill , if they have fire resist then you are good. Of you fight them one by one FWW is also waste of 600-800(if scrolled) points. Armor Pierce increase damage and need only 100points. 700 points more in HP or regen.
You can end up with 4 slot beast strong enough to fight paragons which allow your char to ride swampy or ethereal mount.
 

Pawain

I Hate Skilling
Governor
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Stratics Legend
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Saved Planner | uo-cah.com --for phys/cold damagers.

Saved Planner | uo-cah.com -- For energy/cold damagers, etc.

What do you guys think? Adding RC/FzWW/AI (No Aoe) I guess cannot add AoE since only 3 skills can be added? (I do not wish to add poison skill).
Thinking about the very few but annoying mobs with sensitivity to fire and 50/50 damage phys/cold, and also 50/50 energy/cold.
Will try it on TC1 next few days.
What do you folks think? Before I embark on training / skilling this bug. Ty for any comments.
This bug will be used by my Tamer/Discorder.
The first link does not have a planner.

The second one I can see. That is a common advancement from the AI/RC beetle. It takes a lot of points for the build. You show how you can save points by using 110 scrolls. That pet will be a great killer!
 

gwen

Slightly Crazed
This is what I ended up with.
I picked poisoning for inherited poison resist with around 100 poisoning it heals everything up to deadly itself , letting your vetheal to go all into pets HP. Not sure if 950 HP will go all in because of high Mana on beetles .
 

mihali

Lore Keeper
The first link does not have a planner.

The second one I can see. That is a common advancement from the AI/RC beetle. It takes a lot of points for the build. You show how you can save points by using 110 scrolls. That pet will be a great killer!
I fixed the link. thanks!
 

mihali

Lore Keeper
This is what I ended up with.
I picked poisoning for inherited poison resist with around 100 poisoning it heals everything up to deadly itself , letting your vetheal to go all into pets HP. Not sure if 950 HP will go all in because of high Mana on beetles .
Is it documented somewhere that pets will heal and resist poison at 100 poisoning skill? Info appreciated.
 

gwen

Slightly Crazed
Is it documented somewhere that pets will heal and resist poison at 100 poisoning skill? Info appreciated.

"Poisoning skill also grants a natural poison resistance at 20% of the player’s poisoning skill."
Only this . But this 20% works somewhat like vamp form from necromancy or stone form of mysticism . Pet gets poisoned but self cures of it instead of whole poison waiting period.
 

mihali

Lore Keeper

"Poisoning skill also grants a natural poison resistance at 20% of the player’s poisoning skill."
Only this . But this 20% works somewhat like vamp form from necromancy or stone form of mysticism . Pet gets poisoned but self cures of it instead of whole poison waiting period.
I read on this for players, but was unaware it applied to pets. I also considered that poison would add to the bloat of skills (RC, AI or AP, plus a third one), so it may decrease dos output.
 

mihali

Lore Keeper
This is my Build Planer
And i just love it
Nice! I have one just finished 1st level training with resists just like yours but no magics yet or FZWW. I might actually go your way RC/AI/FzWW but first will try it on TC1. What encounters you use your fire beetle for? What do you like about it? Ty for info.
 

PlayerSkillFTW

Babbling Loonie
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If mobs are already low on fire , with your discord RC will be overkill , if they have fire resist then you are good. Of you fight them one by one FWW is also waste of 600-800(if scrolled) points. Armor Pierce increase damage and need only 100points. 700 points more in HP or regen.
Yep, against foes really weak to Fire Damage (especially with Discord running too), RC and AI aren't that useful. AP does apply a debuff that increases the victim's damage taken by +10% for 3 secs. Wrest Mastery Fire Beetles can actually dish out a ton of damage to low Fire Resist foes. Their auto attacks will randomly dish out a lot more damage (Knockout Passive), and they can also land up to 3 hits in a single attack with Fists of Fury. I use a Wrest Mastery Fire Beetle for farming undead in Bedlam, or when farming for a good Frost Mite to tame.
 

mihali

Lore Keeper
Nice! What is the spec of your fire Beetle? Wres Mastery plus RC? and what else?
I never tried Wres mastery, but may try that.
 

Anon McDougle

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I'm not good with this math stuff but my disco tamer with any of his RC beetles can kill everything with no issues
 

PlayerSkillFTW

Babbling Loonie
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Nice! What is the spec of your fire Beetle? Wres Mastery plus RC? and what else?
I never tried Wres mastery, but may try that.
Can't have Wrest Mastery+RC, that'd be OP if Fists of Fury procced all 3 hits during a RC debuff.
 

Groo

Journeyman
Stratics Veteran
Nice! I have one just finished 1st level training with resists just like yours but no magics yet or FZWW. I might actually go your way RC/AI/FzWW but first will try it on TC1. What encounters you use your fire beetle for? What do you like about it? Ty for info.
In the last Decite event it was fun to play. FWW (nin 117) killed the low level stuff real fast. I was able to solo all the Paras (took some time). When a melee fighter joined to fight the paras they died like flyes.
I recently changed my tamer to disco and now it shines when hunting void creatures.
 

mihali

Lore Keeper
In the last Decite event it was fun to play. FWW (nin 117) killed the low level stuff real fast. I was able to solo all the Paras (took some time). When a melee fighter joined to fight the paras they died like flyes.
I recently changed my tamer to disco and now it shines when hunting void creatures.
What void creatures you farm?
 

mihali

Lore Keeper
Yep, against foes really weak to Fire Damage (especially with Discord running too), RC and AI aren't that useful. AP does apply a debuff that increases the victim's damage taken by +10% for 3 secs. Wrest Mastery Fire Beetles can actually dish out a ton of damage to low Fire Resist foes. Their auto attacks will randomly dish out a lot more damage (Knockout Passive), and they can also land up to 3 hits in a single attack with Fists of Fury. I use a Wrest Mastery Fire Beetle for farming undead in Bedlam, or when farming for a good Frost Mite to tame.
Wres Mastery for fire beetles. I am experimenting with one now in TC1, and it only has Wres mastery, disarm and paralyze with nothing else added. Seems to have several graphics when fighting, one is a mini dark cloud and lightning, like the mystic spell, and a coupled of other fighting graphics. Damage seems impressive, even though anat and tactics are in the 40's. I suspect the damage dished out will really be impressive when these attributes go up. So if I add poisoning, it will remove the wres mastery? But can add either Goo AOE, or another skill, but will be really bloated. :) o.0
 

gwen

Slightly Crazed
Wres Mastery for fire beetles. I am experimenting with one now in TC1, and it only has Wres mastery, disarm and paralyze with nothing else added. Seems to have several graphics when fighting, one is a mini dark cloud and lightning, like the mystic spell, and a coupled of other fighting graphics. Damage seems impressive, even though anat and tactics are in the 40's. I suspect the damage dished out will really be impressive when these attributes go up. So if I add poisoning, it will remove the wres mastery? But can add either Goo AOE, or another skill, but will be really bloated. :) o.0
Since you are on TC already you can try with poisoning check out if return to wrestling master , how many points you need to switch back. I afraid it will be 300 (
so with Aura of Nausea and Rune corruption it will be beast. But always out of Mana . Even with peace mastery bard help . How is Mana now with just mastery on ?
 

mihali

Lore Keeper
Since you are on TC already you can try with poisoning check out if return to wrestling master , how many points you need to switch back. I afraid it will be 300 (
so with Aura of Nausea and Rune corruption it will be beast. But always out of Mana . Even with peace mastery bard help . How is Mana now with just mastery on ?
Mana stays steadily around 490-500, i.e. close to max, spends very little mana. ( Ooops I hope the nerf squad does not see this.o_O).
 

gwen

Slightly Crazed
I suspect that poisoning may overwrite the W. Mastery , will try it out, thanks.
Sure it will overwrite, but after picking poisoning , how many points you need to spend to return back to mastery , 1 (like with Chivalry) or 200?
 
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