Devs...why would you release this now...?

[Captn Norrington]

Logged in today to see this for the first time ever:



Really? You had to name it Russian Terrier during the middle of a war caused by Russia?

I don't usually nitpick minor stuff like this, but holy crap devs... you win the award for worst timing possible.

Edit:

Whoops, apparently I was not the first person to notice this. Merged the two threads together (credit to Lord Arm as the original poster).

 

[Lord Arm]

this came up today on my screen as new item in uo store, russian terrier. might be bad timing.

 

[TheMiner]

Lmao dont like it, dont buy it.

 

[Kylie Kinslayer]

Look on the bright side...

you can now RP fighting Russians in game

 

[Pawain]

It is a real dog breed and the last one. They introduced one at the beginning of every month.

The different ones have been known for months. Just bad timing on when they did this one.

 

[Captn Norrington]

It is a real dog breed and the last one. They introduced one at the beginning of every month.

The different ones have been known for months. Just bad timing on when they did this one.

Ahh that makes more sense, thank you, I didn't realize it was already picked and announced beforehand. Still probably should have changed the name, but I can see how that would be overlooked.

 

[TheMiner]

Ahh that makes more sense, thank you, I didn't realize it was already picked and announced beforehand. Still probably should have changed the name, but I can see how that would be overlooked.

That's why they tell you not to keep your finger on the trigger until you're ready to shoot your gun. A little bit of research helps before jumping the gun.

 

[Pawain]

Ahh that makes more sense, thank you, I didn't realize it was already picked and announced beforehand. Still probably should have changed the name, but I can see how that would be overlooked.

Instead of releasing all of them at once they made us wait for them 1 month apart. Seems like a thing they do now.

 

[Pawain]

That's why they tell you not to keep your finger on the trigger until you're ready to shoot your gun. A little bit of research helps before jumping the gun.

When it came out I put a post on the UO forums announcing it. I totally forgot about what was happening. I was like Yay new skin!

 

[Pawain]

Whoops, apparently I was not the first person to notice this. Merged the two threads together (credit to Lord Arm as the original poster).

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community.stratics.com

This thread was the first one here about it but the OP decided to delete what he wrote.

 

[TheMiner]

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community.stratics.com

This thread was the first one here about it but the OP decided to delete what he wrote.

He probably realized what you pointed out and said f it, why not.

 

[Anon McDougle]

Oddly enough it doesn't show in store gor two if my account

 

[Victim of Siege]

Oddly enough it doesn't show in store gor two if my account

Those accounts must be Boycotting the Russians . . .

 

[Petra Fyde]

I found it didn't show under 'featured' but did under 'Mounts'. Is that the problem you're having.

It's just an unfortunate coincidence that this last pet costume was released at this time - and it's the name of the breed.

 

[Wharton]

It is a real dog breed and the last one. They introduced one at the beginning of every month.

The different ones have been known for months. Just bad timing on when they did this one.

What about the Rottweiler ? They still have that one.

 

[Amber Witch]

Sweet! Been waiting for this one. I use to have one when I was a kid.

 

[Pawain]

What about the Rottweiler ? They still have that one.

Yes I thought there were 5 and I ran out of fingers. That one was very popular on TC. So have to wait the longest... I also want one of those so I have to buy it when they come out.

 

[Stinky Pete]

I have a Russian Blue cat. He now lives outside as payback for what his people have done.



He doesn't understand, but it makes me feel more virtuous.

 

[John Knighthawke]

They had a term related to a racial slur as the name of a boss monster for 84 publishes. This is clearly not a game that thinks such things through.

 

[wishdragon]

Maybe just me, but I don't see the issue.

I don't find the issue is Russia, the issue is a few Russians in charge.

I am not one to bring down an entire nation based on the actions of an idiot ruler.

Maybe if it was called Putin Terrier, I could see the problem.

 

[Pawain]

Maybe if it was called Putin Terrier, I could see the problem.

It would have a shaved chest.

 

[John Knighthawke]

Maybe just me, but I don't see the issue.

I don't find the issue is Russia, the issue is a few Russians in charge.

I am not one to bring down an entire nation based on the actions of an idiot ruler.

Maybe if it was called Putin Terrier, I could see the problem.

With the possible exception of Norrington, I'm not sure the posters here see a problem per se (though it was, according to the Wikipedia, created as a military working dog) so much as a "umm...what" moment -- the kind of moment no business wants for one of its products. (I-Pad is another example in a very different context.) And my point was that, given 84 publishes worth of a racial slur, no one who works on the game was likely to notice the funny coincidence here. Which of course itself is a different kind of funny coincidence.

 

[FAKEUSERNAME]

Logged in today to see this for the first time ever:

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Really? You had to name it Russian Terrier during the middle of a war caused by Russia?

I don't usually nitpick minor stuff like this, but holy crap devs... you win the award for worst timing possible.

Edit:

Whoops, apparently I was not the first person to notice this. Merged the two threads together (credit to Lord Arm as the original poster).

Seems like perfect timing to me.

Thanks Bonnie!

 

[Lore]

Why are we russian to judgement?












I'll see myself out.

 

[Dryzzid of Atlantic]

We should call them Ukrainian terriers from now on!

Similarly, I now refer to my bed time routine as Ukrainian roulette.

 

[petemage]

I am not one to bring down an entire nation based on the actions of an idiot ruler.

Not looking to start a overly political discussion, but that is exactly what it took to stop an idiot ruler and his boys in 1945. It's only been 77 year since than and old people over here still remember that a war always has two sides.

 

[Pawain]

With the possible exception of Norrington, I'm not sure the posters here see a problem per se (though it was, according to the Wikipedia, created as a military working dog) so much as a "umm...what" moment -- the kind of moment no business wants for one of its products. (I-Pad is another example in a very different context.) And my point was that, given 84 publishes worth of a racial slur, no one who works on the game was likely to notice the funny coincidence here. Which of course itself is a different kind of funny coincidence.

I worked for a dog breeder 10 years ago. She had 2 of them. They are the size of a standard poodle and have curly hair. They look like a poodle with muscles She said they were the Russian response to the German Shepard. So a relatively new dog breed made to work as a guard dog.

The customer lived in a small suburb where each house had land. One of the dogs was in the back of the property, we heard noise and a few minutes later the dog was dragging a deer that he killed to us.

I think they are just a poodle on steroids created by the ROC.

 

[FAKEUSERNAME]

They had a term related to a racial slur as the name of a boss monster for 84 publishes. This is clearly not a game that thinks such things through.

You forgot to mention that the Broadsword UO Team modified the code and rewards for their racial slur boss monster during those 84 publishes but somehow overlooked the name.

Must be just an unfortunate coincidence.

 

[Kylie Kinslayer]

Maybe if it was called Putin Terrier, I could see the problem.

Putin would never allow a lowly dog to carry his name...

a lion? Maybe
a tiger? Possibly
a bear? You betcha....

 

[Victim of Siege]

Oddly enough it doesn't show in store gor two if my account

Putin would never allow a lowly dog to carry his name...

a lion? Maybe
a tiger? Possibly
a bear? You betcha....
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In Soviet Russia, The bear rides you.

 

[Veldrane]

Is it a big deal? No, not really. Is it tone deaf? Oh absolutely.

 

[Keven2002]

Is it a big deal? No, not really. Is it tone deaf? Oh absolutely.

Right but does this surprise anyone at this point? lol

 

[gwen]

In Soviet Russia, The bear rides you.

Bear stays at home, looking after your household nuclear reactor, shoving uranium when it become too cold.

 

[FAKEUSERNAME]

Logged in today to see this for the first time ever:

View attachment 127798

Really? You had to name it Russian Terrier during the middle of a war caused by Russia?

I don't usually nitpick minor stuff like this, but holy crap devs... you win the award for worst timing possible.

Edit:

Whoops, apparently I was not the first person to notice this. Merged the two threads together (credit to Lord Arm as the original poster).

Yeah I don't think Broadsword will be reaching it's broadest audience ever with New Legacy after this release of "hot new content".

I thought Mesanna hated to look stupid, looks like she loves it though.
I just thought she was a clown, guess she's a liar too.

 

[mihali]

They should remove it from the purchase list completely. Not too smart for business to add this now, to say the least!

 

[Pawain]

They should remove it from the purchase list completely. Not too smart for business to add this now, to say the least!

This dog breed did not do anything. Russia does not profit from the sale of this item. Is the American Kennel Association going to remove this breed?

If Mexico did something horrible, I won't stop eating tortilla chips.

 

[Kylie Kinslayer]

Is the American Kennel Association going to remove this breed?

You joke...

but...

the way Americans are getting these days? The AKC is probably meeting Wednesday to vote on that very thing....

 

[FAKEUSERNAME]

This dog breed did not do anything. Russia does not profit from the sale of this item. Is the American Kennel Association going to remove this breed?

If Mexico did something horrible, I won't stop eating tortilla chips.

Broadsword is profiting from the sale of this item. It's beyond gross and disgusting.

It wouldn't be surprising if the American Kennel Association removed the breed.

The rest of the world is cutting Russia off, businesses of all sectors.
You're obviously unaware of how the rest of the gaming industry is approaching this.

You appear to be as detached from reality as the producer of this game is.

 

[HRH Liz]

The WOKENESS will never end.

 

[Stinky Pete]

Broadsword is profiting from the sale of this item. It's beyond gross and disgusting.

God, I hope you are just trolling. It is a real breed of dog, you can't just bury your head in the sand and pretend it doesn't exist... Well... I guess you could but that would just be ridiculous.

 

[FAKEUSERNAME]

God, I hope you are just trolling. It is a real breed of dog, you can't just bury your head in the sand and pretend it doesn't exist... Well... I guess you could but that would just be ridiculous.

You're right, it's a real Russian military dog breed.

Any reasonable person would have pulled this item immediately, probably even offered an apology.
This thread was created Thursday, Broadsword chose to profit off of the item over the weekend instead.

Broadsword wants to reach it's broadest audience ever with New Legacy because their game is dying.
You know how many people aren't going to touch it now because of this?

It comes down to poor decision making by Mesanna.
Poor decision after poor decision.

Broadsword UO is dying.

 

[Pawain]

I'm gonna be on a cruise ship this week. I guarantee I will see some Russian workers.

Should I spit on my waitress if she is from Russia?
Should I curse the laundry worker from Russia?
Should I boo the dancer at the show that is from Russia?

They have more impact than a dog breed skin.

Should I cancel the cruise since they are profiting from Russians?

 

[FAKEUSERNAME]

I'm gonna be on a cruise ship this week. I guarantee I will see some Russian workers.

Should I spit on my waitress if she is from Russia?
Should I curse the laundry worker from Russia?
Should I boo the dancer at the show that is from Russia?

They have more impact than a dog breed skin.

Should I cancel the cruise since they are profiting from Russians?

Why do you always comment analogies that have nothing to do with a video game?

When you fail to have realistic reasonable points for your argument, you don't have to offer analogies of random subjects.

It's not a cruise ship, Mexican snacks, or a restaurant.
We're talking about a video game. Your analogies do not apply.

 

[Pawain]

Why do you always comment analogies that have nothing to do with a video game?

When you fail to have realistic reasonable points for your argument, you don't have to offer analogies of random subjects.

It's not a cruise ship, Mexican snacks, or a restaurant.
We're talking about a video game. Your analogies do not apply.

Exactly I'm talking about real things not a stupid skins name in a video game. They chose this breed months ago. They release one a month.

 

[Stinky Pete]

What we are seeing here is merely an attack on the word "Russian." I bet you didn't know that developing new dog breeds was a very popular activity in Russia (and a whole lot of other places) in the 50's. If Broadsword released a "husky" skin, this stupid thread would never have been created, even though the breed was also developed in Russia. Because the word Russian is included in the name of the dog breed, it became an easy target for people to prove how virtuous they are by complaining about it. Here are some other dog breeds developed in Russia so that the virtue warriors of Stratics can go prove not only how virtuous they are but also their ability to identify Russian-bred dog breeds that aren't as obvious.

Why do you always comment analogies that have nothing to do with a video game?

The name of a breed of a dog also has nothing to do with a video game.... for the record.

 

[FAKEUSERNAME]

What we are seeing here is merely an attack on the word "Russian." I bet you didn't know that developing new dog breeds was a very popular activity in Russia (and a whole lot of other places) in the 50's. If Broadsword released a "husky" skin, this stupid thread would never have been created, even though the breed was also developed in Russia. Because the word Russian is included in the name of the dog breed, it became an easy target for people to prove how virtuous they are by complaining about it. Here are some other dog breeds developed in Russia so that the virtue warriors of Stratics can go prove not only how virtuous they are but also their ability to identify Russian-bred dog breeds that aren't as obvious.

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The name of a breed of a dog also has nothing to do with a video game.... for the record.

Broadsword's latest release:

The Black Russian Terrier (Russian: Русский чёрный терьер), also known as the Chornyi Terrier (chornyi being Russian for black) is a breed of dog created in USSR in Red Star (Krasnaya Zvezda) Kennel during the late 1940s and the early 1950s for use as military/working dogs.

 

[Stinky Pete]

Broadsword's latest release:

The Black Russian Terrier (Russian: Русский чёрный терьер), also known as the Chornyi Terrier (chornyi being Russian for black) is a breed of dog created in USSR in Red Star (Krasnaya Zvezda) Kennel during the late 1940s and the early 1950s for use as military/working dogs.

Yes... Dog breeds were created for reasons. What is your point exactly? The dog breed has had that name for over 70 years. They are quite popular all over the world. I don't understand what you are suggesting we do about it. Change the name and pretend the breed wasn't developed in Russia? Hunt them? Can we just pretend the breed does not exist? I really don't see where you or this thread is going besides straight to Silly Town.

 

[FAKEUSERNAME]

Yes... Dog breeds were created for reasons. What is your point exactly? The dog breed has had that name for over 70 years. They are quite popular all over the world. I don't understand what you are suggesting we do about it. Change the name and pretend the breed wasn't developed in Russia? Hunt them? Can we just pretend the breed does not exist? I really don't see where you or this thread is going besides straight to Silly Town.

Check post #35 and #41

 

[Stinky Pete]

Check post #35 and #41

It's not hard to quote what you are talking about. I'll do it for you and assume I know what you are talking about.

They should remove it from the purchase list completely.

Any reasonable person would have pulled this item immediately, probably even offered an apology.

And what exactly would that do aside from removing an item that some people might like? Over what? A word? You really think that anyone is cancelling their subscription over this? Come on man.... You're just trolling me here, right? I want to assume anyone who doesn't have some sort of brain damage can understand that including the real name of a real dog in a video game isn't some sort of political statement.

Honestly though, these skins are just more immersion-breaking trash that should have never been added into the game in the first place. Had the post been about that, I would definitely agree, but that wasn't the reason this thread was made. WTF is a dog from soviet-era Russia doing in Britannia anyway? Why is there Santa Clauses and Krampus' for that matter? If you want to talk about how stupid that is, I'm all ears, but that cat was pulled out of that bag a long time ago, so if we no longer care about fantasy immersion anymore, let them have Russian dogs for Christ sakes. Hell, maybe we can add Jesus bobbleheads next year!

 

[dvv]

So much bickering. They made these pet costumes a few months ago and most likely scheduled them for release ahead of time. Unfortunate coincidence? I guess. Regardless, it’s a dog breed. It wasn’t like an item in the UO store that’s a Putin statue. Some childish logic on display here.