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MalagAste

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IMO most stuff I see I'd say 90% or more is all mage stuff... Rarely do I see items that have Stam and Dex on it that are worth looting... and almost never do I see things with MR... And if I see something like a jewel with DI, DC... it never has HC... and then even far less do I see anything with SSI... and if I do it's 99% of the time has no DI, DC or HC on it... has mage stuff on it like LRC or some crap like that... and even then more often than not anything I find with SSI is Antique or cursed making it utterly useless.

It's a rare day in hell if I ever see any jewelry for a dexer... and 99.9% of all weapons I see are complete trash. But that's because they never have SSI on them or if they do it's on something that is fast anyway and seriously doesn't need SSI on it. Can't say I've ever seen a bow worth looting that's for sure. Some may have TONS of properties on them... but generally, they are useless combinations no one would want.
 

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Useless combinations is a huge issue with loot some things just shouldn't go on once the type is decided seems like lazy coding..
 

foos

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IMO most stuff I see I'd say 90% or more is all mage stuff... Rarely do I see items that have Stam and Dex on it that are worth looting... and almost never do I see things with MR... And if I see something like a jewel with DI, DC... it never has HC... and then even far less do I see anything with SSI... and if I do it's 99% of the time has no DI, DC or HC on it... has mage stuff on it like LRC or some crap like that... and even then more often than not anything I find with SSI is Antique or cursed making it utterly useless.

It's a rare day in hell if I ever see any jewelry for a dexer... and 99.9% of all weapons I see are complete trash. But that's because they never have SSI on them or if they do it's on something that is fast anyway and seriously doesn't need SSI on it. Can't say I've ever seen a bow worth looting that's for sure. Some may have TONS of properties on them... but generally, they are useless combinations no one would want.
That I see. Also the massive amounts of gargoyle drops. One thing I can tell you is I do not think you get HCI or DCI on major artifact armor pieces or higher. It seems like that only shows up on greater artifact level pieces for me at best. I think certain properties don't show up on certain rolls. I think it's tied to the way imbuing works. (you can't apply some properties if the intensity is going to be beyond a certain level). If that makes sense.
 

MalagAste

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That I see. Also the massive amounts of gargoyle drops. One thing I can tell you is I do not think you get HCI or DCI on major artifact armor pieces or higher. It seems like that only shows up on greater artifact level pieces for me at best. I think certain properties don't show up on certain rolls. I think it's tied to the way imbuing works. (you can't apply some properties if the intensity is going to be beyond a certain level). If that makes sense.
You can get HCI though it is rare and typically 1 to 5... but I'm talking on Jewelry...
 

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That is a very interesting observation. I get them all the time from roof encounter. I also get pieces that have dex, int, and stam and mana. What I don't ever get are pieces that have str + dex + st + hps. I don't know if that's possible or not. How much luck do you run? I typically run about 2000 on my toons.
If that is the case. Why are pieces like this so rare?
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It needs to have 3 Mana regen and 8+ Mana to work better on my archer.

No you can't get mighty of haste items as drops.

I need pieces like that pic For: Gorget, Chest and arms. As many as you can get.

Since you think those are so common get back with me next week with a few sets in studded or bone. Thanks.
Also keep all the legendary Mage armor you get to compare %s.

(the roof is one of the most commonly done encounters on LS. The main players who take groups have high luck suits. They have sampires and know what they need. I have seen very few items like above that they show me to brag about.)
 
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Pawain

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If you do the Roof, Corgul, or Scalis with a Group 3 times.

You will get a suit or two of pieces that look like the one below. The material does not matter, they all are mage armor. Some may have less resists but you will have 70 in all.

Wait till the corpse goes public, you will see the pieces the players with luck got also since they looked for 2 seconds and took nothing.

I call the shield the Roof Mage Shield.
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Do 3 runs and something you wont have is a legendary Dex Suit.
 

Pawain

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just three crappy examples...
2 of those look old. You don't get things named barbed or no names now. If you do it is rare.

You can get what is in my picture now. But they are not common.

For every 10 legendary mage pieces you will get something like your third pic.

Those in years of doing roof... that's my point. You'll get a legendary mage piece every time.
 
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foos

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If that is the case. Why are pieces like this so rare?
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It needs to have 3 Mana regen and 8+ Mana to work better on my archer.

No you can't get mighty of haste items as drops.

I need pieces like that pic For: Gorget, Chest and arms. As many as you can get.

Since you think those are so common get back with me next week with a few sets in studded or bone. Thanks.
Also keep all the legendary Mage armor you get to compare %s.

(the roof is one of the most commonly done encounters on LS. The main players who take groups have high luck suits. They have sampires and know what they need. I have seen very few items like above that they show me to brag about.)
Let me know if you are interested in any of these.
 

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Let me know if you are interested in any of these.
Some nice things. Before I look I'll explain what makes a nice Dex piece that can make a melee fighter.
Remember I have nice suits already so I am picky.

You need a couple of pieces with high resists. that are Bone, Studded or Hide.

What you want is We can call this the dex part.
+5 dex
+ 10 Stam
+10 LMC
Plus:
Things that would be nice
Regen that your toon needs.
+8 or 10 Mana
+ intel is nice.

Now Ill look at yours numbering L to R and down
1 2
3 4
5 6

#1 has 4 and 8s in the dex part Not bad. It has 20LRC This is a nice piece for a Sampire that wants to cast without regs. That piece is desired.
#2 are legs. I use Britches of warding but nice other stats but it is leather.
#3 No LMC :(
#4 Metal and are legs.
#5 Very nice piece if it were not metal.
#6 Very nice piece highly desired. MR 3 good for archers. I'm sure I could find a toon that could use that.
#7 Leather not high stats
#8 good stats but orc mask. I cant use that with pirating. Also I use Mace ands shield or Prismatic.
#9 Very good piece. First one with both 10s in dex. Also has the LRC 20% Desired by casting melee fighters.
#10 and #11 no LMC :(
#12 good but are legs and metal
#13 would be real nice if not leather :( Gorgets are hard to find.
#14 and #15 Gloves I use Feudal grips. But grips have gone up to 150M + so those are desired for player that don't have grips.
#16 Another Sampire piece.
#17 LMC only 6 female only, leather :(
#18 Mask give no LMC bonus. decent dex piece if you have 5 pieces with +3 LMC materials.
#19 Gloves... but decent
#20 Legs but decent
#21 No LMC :(
#22 Not as good as the other sampire pieces.
#23 Cloth but nice stats.
#24 Very nice , wish it was MR for my archer.
#25 OMG I wish that was not leather :( would have been the best piece.
#26 very decent sampire legs.

Thanks for taking the time to organize these, it was fun critiquing them.

You have clearly done a lot of Fights from UW, Roof, Corgul, Scalis to find these pieces.
You also have good judgment on what to keep.

Im willing to bet that for every one of these pieces you found at least 10 legendary mage pieces that had
5 Int
10 Mana
10LMC
20LRC
4MR

Unless I miss read, you have no pieces that have
5 dex
10stam
10LMC

You have a lot of good pieces.

You should see if you can sell those sampire pieces (LRC), someone can use them. You almost have a suit there.

If you are interested in parting with any of the other pieces, I could use 2 of them and make a decent Melee suit using Britches.

I could easily make a decent suit with 3 of those pieces but I would stick it on a vendor for 5M so a NOOB or returner could use it.

So if you want those pieces to be used by someone that would be happy to have a nice suit, let me know and Ill either make it and get it to a player or Ill make the secondary pieces out of Studded or Bone and give those to you so you can get some suits out.

I love making suits! Thanks for allowing me to browse at your dex container.
 
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gwen

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I just went and keye'd up my accounts.... I'm all set. That being said wasn't impressed with the loot. Why not just do shadowguard?
Easy to farm keys. Only 1 set is needed .
Shadow guard need to do all rooms.
Loot in UW is good. You get several 5-10 legend Aries per toon. More people more loot. Every half hour. Very good chances to get something good.
Of course combinations of properties which are top sellers are rare. This is why they are expensive.
 

Pawain

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I could tell that I liked #6.
Compare mine and yours.
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This is on my archer/tamer. He needs MR does not need SR.
My piece is crafted. When I remove the sleeves I have 70s resists so the resists are irrelevant for my toon.

If I replaced my arms with yours:

I would go from 221 Stamina to 223 , nice but does not put me at ability to use lower SSI.
I would have 3 more intel which gives more mana Nice.

So to this toon it is not really worth paying for this upgrade but if I found that piece I would definitely use it.

Like I said, 2 pieces like yours would allow someone to craft the other pieces and build a suit. And they could upgrade until they have close to 55LMC.

So this specific piece is very nice and could take years of hunting for a player to upgrade it.

Because as I said, Dex pieces are not easy to find.
 

Pawain

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@foos You play on LS? What name? No wonder you have done so many Roofs.
 

foos

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@foos You play on LS? What name? No wonder you have done so many Roofs.
I'm Foos. My toons are whatever I need to get the job done. Tamers Tony Clifton, main sampire is Maria Eva. Yours?

As far as the pieces, I mean they do seem to drop for me for whatever reason. I get them on a fairly regular basis. I run about 2000 luck on each of my chars except one. He only has 1890 I think. I gotta get a minax sandles to push him over 2k.
 

Keven2002

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2 of those look old. You don't get things named barbed or no names now. If you do it is rare.
This is only partially true. You can no longer get Legendary armor/weapons that are no name, but you can certainly still obtain no named (or single named ie only a prefix or suffix) items like Anon showed. These are the pieces that allow those random properties on a piece that don't fit into the prefix/suffix mold. I looted this piece below maybe 2 weeks ago but I do see them fairly often... I just don't typically keep them unless they have some max properites / good property combo.

It's nothing earth shattering and these arms could technically be reforged (would take a lot of tries to get the right mix) but I do have some other piece that are slightly better than something you can reforge. Will you create an elite top end suit from these? No. But these pieces do come in handy at times to help build a mid-level suit.


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That I see. Also the massive amounts of gargoyle drops. One thing I can tell you is I do not think you get HCI or DCI on major artifact armor pieces or higher. It seems like that only shows up on greater artifact level pieces for me at best. I think certain properties don't show up on certain rolls. I think it's tied to the way imbuing works. (you can't apply some properties if the intensity is going to be beyond a certain level). If that makes sense.
Disclaimer: Most of the following just based on what I've noticed and not confirmed.

I agree. The main reason for this is because of the prefix or suffix of the piece in a combination with the "level" (ie Legendary Artifact vs Minor Magic item etc).

I believe the "level" of loot will determine the available prefix or suffix much like using a runic tool; ie you cannot pick Auspicious / of Fortune when using a barb kit to craft gear much like I've never seen Auspicious / of Fortune a Legendary artifact with that prefix/suffix ( I could be wrong here). For the most part, the legendary artifacts I see are X of Wizardry/Sorcery (ie it's either Str/HP + Int/Mana or Dex/Stam + Int/Mana or Regens + Int/Mana). I'm not sure why we aren't able to get piece like Animated X of Vitality which would give us Str/HP + Dex/Stam; maybe the Devs think that would be too overpower?

Even if we were able to get something like Animated X of Vitality that wouldn't allow for random properties to be thrown on there like Luck or Reflect Phys dmage or HCI/DCI. That's where the "no name" pieces come in. So in the pic above, you can see it gets the Dex/Stam/StamRegen from the Animated prefix but the blank suffix allows for the piece to pick up the 3ManaRegen (possibly "of wizardy") along with the 4HCI (from "of slaughter").

I wish the Devs would reinstate no-name legendaries so we would have the ability to put together suits that have varying stats outside of the current predefined combinations we currently have.
 

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I'm Foos. My toons are whatever I need to get the job done. Tamers Tony Clifton, main sampire is Maria Eva. Yours?

As far as the pieces, I mean they do seem to drop for me for whatever reason. I get them on a fairly regular basis. I run about 2000 luck on each of my chars except one. He only has 1890 I think. I gotta get a minax sandles to push him over 2k.
Allen. I have seen both yours around. You missed Gabby tossing nets yesterday she like to make 3 Scalis at once. Was fun.
 
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foos

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Allen. I have seen both yours around. You missed Gabby tossing nets yesterday she like to make 3 Scalis at once. Was fun.
I was on, was running gaurd. I do very little with the community. I tend to do my own thing. Getting drops lowers my anxiety. I do need to do S Scali at some point though. I've never done him.
 

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I was on, was running gaurd. I do very little with the community. I tend to do my own thing. Getting drops lowers my anxiety. I do need to do S Scali at some point though. I've never done him.
Please do. Come to anything you hear in chat. Most players on LS use tamers for everything.

Go in with no expectation of getting a drop. Just play for entertainment.

Sess needs a partner that can do fountain efficiently.

I can craft pieces to go with your items to make you a spare suit for you or a friend.
 

foos

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Please do. Come to anything you hear in chat. Most players on LS use tamers for everything.

Go in with no expectation of getting a drop. Just play for entertainment.

Sess needs a partner that can do fountain efficiently.

I can craft pieces to go with your items to make you a spare suit for you or a friend.
For some reason I think I've heard this before. I don't really need anything, I'm fairly self sufficient but I'll try to hit up a shard event at some point. Should have mentioned that I already have legendary's up on my vendor.
 

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Not sure what led you to believe that, but it's off topic for purpose of this thread.
ermmm... maybe the fact that Messana explicitly forbade anyone on her team or attached to UO to participate here...? So syntactically you are right, it was UO who distanced itself from Stratics. and there are loads of threads in here going on about this. So maybe those threads in here led him -and everyone else- to believe that
 
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