Just my Imagination?

[Tamergirl]

For those that did test and the test shards before the WW publish....does there seem to be a difference in how much ancient sos items you're pulling up? Before the WW publish I was pulling up quite a few items, now I'm lucky to pull up two before pulling the chest. Also..Dev's! Ancient SOS are really hard to come by.. Less grinding ..more fun..please! Out of over 50 MIBs...2 Ancient SOS. Very bleh!

 

[Specialist]

ancients sos have always been a 1 in 25 chance as far as pulling up items before the publish if u fished a few squares away from the actual cords u would get more random stuff the close u are to the coord the faster u will get the chest. I don't know if that has changed since the publish tho haven't gone fishing yet

 

[Tina Small]

For those that did test and the test shards before the WW publish....does there seem to be a difference in how much ancient sos items you're pulling up? Before the WW publish I was pulling up quite a few items, now I'm lucky to pull up two before pulling the chest. Also..Dev's! Ancient SOS are really hard to come by.. Less grinding ..more fun..please! Out of over 50 MIBs...2 Ancient SOS. Very bleh!

No, you're not imagining it. I did some of the MIBs on Origin last week and quite a few chests had no pre-chest loot at all.

 

[Fortis]

In 100 mibs yesterday i pull 6 ancient sos

 

[MalagAste]

Yeah far as I am aware it's always been that way with the pre-chest loot... the further off you are the more you get... Sometimes you get none...

And I agree they seem to lower things just to make it more grindy... very sick of the grind. Totally NOT fun... its a buzz kill for those who want new stuff.

 

[Keven2002]

Yeah far as I am aware it's always been that way with the pre-chest loot... the further off you are the more you get... Sometimes you get none...

And I agree they seem to lower things just to make it more grindy... very sick of the grind. Totally NOT fun... its a buzz kill for those who want new stuff.

What is your proposed solution? That everyone gets all the new stuff in 2 or 3 chests so that nobody has to work for it?

Come on... let's be realistic UO has been "grindy" from the start whether it be this new chest loot/deco items or it be doing a Halloween even to get enough turn-ins for rewards or an invasion where you need to kill tons of mobs to finally get a 50% SDI spellbook (or the first invasion where you could get a max 30% SDI one) or even taming/killing a ton of different pets to get one with great stats. Whining about the game being too "grindy" has never done nothing and will not do anything other than annoy the other people who don't mind working for what they get.

Just my 2 cents at least...

 

[Mr. Smither1]

The long term ancient sos rate has been around 4.5% for me and so far after the patch it is still 4.5% but I have noticed I am getting 2x to 3x more mibs vs maps while fishing.

 

[Tina Small]

The long term ancient sos rate has been around 4.5% for me and so far after the patch it is still 4.5% but I have noticed I am getting 2x to 3x more mibs vs maps while fishing.

That could be because MIBs no longer spawn in treasure chests. Plus, it does seem like overall the map drop rate most everywhere in the game has been considerably decreased, although Kyronix doesn't seem to think that is the case.

 

[MalagAste]

What is your proposed solution? That everyone gets all the new stuff in 2 or 3 chests so that nobody has to work for it?

Come on... let's be realistic UO has been "grindy" from the start whether it be this new chest loot/deco items or it be doing a Halloween even to get enough turn-ins for rewards or an invasion where you need to kill tons of mobs to finally get a 50% SDI spellbook (or the first invasion where you could get a max 30% SDI one) or even taming/killing a ton of different pets to get one with great stats. Whining about the game being too "grindy" has never done nothing and will not do anything other than annoy the other people who don't mind working for what they get.

Just my 2 cents at least...

So you find it "fun" to do the same thing over and over and over and over for hours on end with no reward? I don't.

 

[Victim of Siege]

So you find it "fun" to do the same thing over and over and over and over for hours on end with no reward? I don't.

Kinda like being married . . .

 

[MalagAste]

Kinda like being married . . .

Yeah sort of that's why I quit that bad habit!

 

[Uriah Heep]

LOL!

 

[North_LS]

So you find it "fun" to do the same thing over and over and over and over for hours on end with no reward? I don't.

the 'fun' part is the chance at the reward. you dont HAVE to farm each thing for hours on end. bounce around doing different things, then start the cycle again. you cant expect to do things once and get a guaranteed awesome reward - if that were the case, most content in UO would lose its allure very, very quickly. folks who are willing to farm the same thing over and over will naturally get more rewards faster. if you aren't, you can still get those rewards eventually by spacing it out. just expect it to take longer.

 

[Keven2002]

the 'fun' part is the chance at the reward. you dont HAVE to farm each thing for hours on end. bounce around doing different things, then start the cycle again. you cant expect to do things once and get a guaranteed awesome reward - if that were the case, most content in UO would lose its allure very, very quickly. folks who are willing to farm the same thing over and over will naturally get more rewards faster. if you aren't, you can still get those rewards eventually by spacing it out. just expect it to take longer.

Well said! I've said it before but I'll say it again. If someone wants something they can either put in the work for it and "grind" or they can do something else they enjoy to make money and just buy the item they think is a grind. I personally find part of the fun is working towards something not everyone will get because they don't want to put in the work.... UO would be extremely boring if every shard was like TC where you are given everything. It wouldn't be fun if there wasn't strategy required and all you had to do was go into God-Mode and kill everything one hit and get everything from each kill. That would keep my interest for a few days before I got tired of no challenge.

That said, I guess some people don't like a challenge and would rather receive hand outs

 

[Abbarosh]

Well said! I've said it before but I'll say it again. If someone wants something they can either put in the work for it and "grind" or they can do something else they enjoy to make money and just buy the item they think is a grind. I personally find part of the fun is working towards something not everyone will get because they don't want to put in the work.... UO would be extremely boring if every shard was like TC where you are given everything. It wouldn't be fun if there wasn't strategy required and all you had to do was go into God-Mode and kill everything one hit and get everything from each kill. That would keep my interest for a few days before I got tired of no challenge.

That said, I guess some people don't like a challenge and would rather receive hand outs

Been doing that loots still bad on tmaps , havent looked at the mibs yet only have 30 ancients atm

 

[MalagAste]

the 'fun' part is the chance at the reward. you dont HAVE to farm each thing for hours on end. bounce around doing different things, then start the cycle again. you cant expect to do things once and get a guaranteed awesome reward - if that were the case, most content in UO would lose its allure very, very quickly. folks who are willing to farm the same thing over and over will naturally get more rewards faster. if you aren't, you can still get those rewards eventually by spacing it out. just expect it to take longer.

When the chance is so freaking slim that the next 30 times you do it you still get nothing eventually you just quit trying.

IMO I prefer events like the Pirate stuff... gather the items and invest your time pick your reward... something you actually WANT vs lets say doing the roof... I've done that more than 30 times I've gotten 2 drops in all those times... for the time invested in doing the rooms and then waiting on a group and going up there killing all 4 major pita ..... and getting NOTHING time and time again... and finally getting a drop and it's CRAP. I've not once gotten anything off the roof worthwhile. 1 spellbook I'll never use and a staff that's garbage... I get better loot doing T-Maps which again for time invested and all is actually WORTH the rewards.

I've done Despise gone and fought the brothers dozens of times... I have NEVER gotten a single drop from there... EVER... I did Doom over and over for years... finally got a drop just before they changed the way the drops work there and it was a craptastic Dragon Lance that NO ONE would ever want or use.

 

[Keven2002]

When the chance is so freaking slim that the next 30 times you do it you still get nothing eventually you just quit trying.

IMO I prefer events like the Pirate stuff... gather the items and invest your time pick your reward... something you actually WANT vs lets say doing the roof... I've done that more than 30 times I've gotten 2 drops in all those times... for the time invested in doing the rooms and then waiting on a group and going up there killing all 4 major pita ..... and getting NOTHING time and time again... and finally getting a drop and it's CRAP. I've not once gotten anything off the roof worthwhile. 1 spellbook I'll never use and a staff that's garbage... I get better loot doing T-Maps which again for time invested and all is actually WORTH the rewards.

I've done Despise gone and fought the brothers dozens of times... I have NEVER gotten a single drop from there... EVER... I did Doom over and over for years... finally got a drop just before they changed the way the drops work there and it was a craptastic Dragon Lance that NO ONE would ever want or use.

Ahhh here is the MalagAste I know and love... to poke holes in your arguments

If you are talking about anything for the new treasure maps then you are severely blowing things out of proportion. I've gotten literally every type of thing that is available from stash & supply chests and I've done about 45 (I have several multiples so please come to ATL so I can give you free handouts to stop the whining). Those 40-50 chests have all easily been done in a few hours. I'm sure the same will go for the cache level items when I start doing more of those.

I'm confused though because you are talking about how everything is all grindy in one post and then saying that T-Maps for time invested are worth the rewards? So which is? Too grindy or worth the rewards for the time invested?

Additionally you are complaining about doing the roof 30 times and only getting 2 things? No offense but you haven't put in nearly the amount of work many others have. People have done the roof 100+ times and experiences have varied. Yea it sucks getting some crappy drop you won't ever use but it also feels great when you finally get a cameo.

Honestly I feel like reading through your constant whining is more grindy than anything else in the game I've experienced. If you think the game is such a drag (and feel the need to constantly bash it on here) then why do you still play? If I had as many complaints about the game as you, I darn sure wouldn't be wasting anymore energy dealing with it.

 

[MalagAste]

To be honest most my friends in game only log in 2 or 3 times a week for a boring meeting, an auction (mostly just to support friends) and the EM Event each week... they no longer want to do any of the bore chore grind crap that UO has become... because they got frustrated and quit doing them after all the time and energy invested for no reward.

I can't beg them to do what I'd like and I would have done the roof those 100+ times if I could get them to go with me but after the first 4 or 5 times I got them to go they refused to do it again... They did Despise with me 1 or 2 times just to get the titles but again found it to be more of a massive waste of time than it was worth.

I find that many folk are like that and they aren't nearly as vocal as I am... they just slowly fade away and find other games because this one is a massive bore chore to get anywhere and you can't make money in the game if you don't do the grind... and if you can't get the equipment to survive the grind it becomes more of a frustration than fun and they quickly quit... but hey you know best you get everything since you obviously have nothing better to do in your life than spend it grinding for hours with no reward... by all means continue... but most people I know have lives outside UO which come first and the little time they do get to play they choose to do things that are more rewarding than rinse and repeat for nothing.

 

[Pawain]

I've gotten literally every type of thing that is available from stash & supply chests and I've done about 45 (I have several multiples so please come to ATL so I can give you free handouts to stop the whining).

Thanks Ill take 2 of everything.

Also some of the Skull swords that have no mods, at least 6. 8 Whips that have no mods.

PM me for the time I can come get.