4 Slot Frost Dragons?

[Akiho]

Do they exist?

There seems to be (even after extensive googling) a complete lack of evidence to prove they exist. Anyone have one? Have any screenshots? It has certainly been discussed many times since the pet re-vamp.

There is a base assumption that because GDs can be 4 slot that Frosties can too, I'm not convinced.

I have at times, spent days/weeks farming Level 7 T-maps, pulling them, clearing them and tamed probably hundreds of Frost Dragons but never had anything even close to what would qualify one to be 4 slot. 4 Slot GDs on the other hand seem to be fairly common, you can farm one up in fairly quick time at Destard.

I am getting the urge to farm again and really would like to know if it's a pointless exercise. It's not that they make good pets or would be much better after a round of training, it's more of a 'bucket list' thing.

 

[SouthPaw]

Sadly no. Same with shadow dragons.

 

[Gardo]

Correct about the shadow wyrms but I’ll post a picture and stats of my buddy’s 4-slot frosty. I’ll warn you up front that he trained it quite poorly. Waste of a rare pet... but they do exist.

 

[SouthPaw]

Correct about the shadow wyrms but I’ll post a picture and stats of my buddy’s 4-slot frosty. I’ll warn you up front that he trained it quite poorly. Waste of a rare pet... but they do exist.

Any idea how long ago he tamed it?

 

[Khaelor]

I can say this. Every single untrained 4 slot frost dragon I have seen was exploited down from 5 slots (which is no longer possible). A couple of the tamers that had them last winter claimed they tamed them themselves, but each dragon had telltale signs they were dropped. Some of the signs were very subtle but they were still there indicating it was exploited.

Now if they exploited them down and trained them, long as they stayed within the trained pet intensity range they did not revert.

The intensity cap of a 4 slot pet and the spawn ranges of the frost dragon say 4 slot frost dragons should not exist naturally. But I always look to be proved wrong.

 

[Gardo]

Any idea how long ago he tamed it?

I’ll ask him sometime. I would guess sometime within the last year. He loves doing treasure maps.....pretty much every map I’ve come across over the last 12-16 months has gone to him. (And the majority of my guild mates’ as well)

 

[Gardo]

I can say this. Every single untrained 4 slot frost dragon I have seen was exploited down from 5 slots (which is no longer possible). A couple of the tamers that had them last winter claimed they tamed them themselves, but each dragon had telltale signs they were dropped. Some of the signs were very subtle but they were still there indicating it was exploited.

Now if they exploited them down and trained them, long as they stayed within the trained pet intensity range they did not revert.

The intensity cap of a 4 slot pet and the spawn ranges of the frost dragon say 4 slot frost dragons should not exist naturally. But I always look to be proved wrong.

I can’t picture this guy doing anything like that, but having only seen the finished product, I can’t be 100%. Would be truly disappointing if that were indeed the case....

 

[Pawain]

The dragon turtles are rare (not as rare as frost dragons) at 4 slot and those have such low HP and str compared to the 5 slot ones that you end up with a very low HP finished product that has increased resists but very squishy.

I can not recall seeing a 4 slot Frost Dragon at the stables.

Khaelor and friends got all the colors so they must be extremely rare if he has not seen one.

 

[Akiho]

I can say this. Every single untrained 4 slot frost dragon I have seen was exploited down from 5 slots (which is no longer possible). A couple of the tamers that had them last winter claimed they tamed them themselves, but each dragon had telltale signs they were dropped. Some of the signs were very subtle but they were still there indicating it was exploited.

Now if they exploited them down and trained them, long as they stayed within the trained pet intensity range they did not revert.

The intensity cap of a 4 slot pet and the spawn ranges of the frost dragon say 4 slot frost dragons should not exist naturally. But I always look to be proved wrong.

I did a small experiment last night, managed to get a couple maps and pulled 5 Frost Dragons, logged all Stats/Skills Pre-Tame. I then went and Lored 5 GDs and did the same and did a comparison.

Now, it's key to say that is by no means conclusive with such a small pool but here were my findings...

All stats/Skills were very comparible with the exception of HP and Resists which was the spanner in the works. Frostie HP appeared to be much higher in General with 3 being over 2000 HP highest being at 2600 (I believe the cap for a GD is 2000?).

Although some of the resists were comparible, the resist total for the Frostie was much higher. Notably the Highest total resists for the GDs were all lower than Lowest total resists of all Frosties.

I'm no expert here, but it seems the total resist weight alone could prevent a Frostie from being 4 slots.

 

[Mordha]

Pawain, hate to say it but that is a dragon not a greater dragon. The 800 str and low low hp are dead giveaways. The other thing to note is that dragon does not have bleed, which why they were able to add armor ignore.

I have one I built up, I didn’t go chiv, but I still added AI, light scrolling and resists. They are crazy tight on points, but I tend to grab my dragon when my group has a bunch of pets for a hunt, the extra damage from AI is nice. I’ve been tempted to build another dragon and try to get chiv on, could be interesting.....

 

[Khaelor]

Oh @Pawain, Pawain, Pawain. That is indeed a Dragon. (and also why Dragons are so awesome with their overcapped strength, intelligence and they can get Chiv and AI unlike their "greater" counterpart)

 

[Pawain]

So it will revert? Great.

Or they jumped to 4 slots already and it wont revert. I thought they got rid of the blue button on Dragons.

Another 1501 points would make a hefty beast out of that Flappy.

Ok I deleted post as to not cause Flappy confusion.

 

[Khaelor]

So it will revert? Great.

Or they jumped to 4 slots already and it wont revert. I thought they got rid of the blue button on Dragons.

Another 1501 points would make a hefty beast out of that Flappy.

Ok I deleted post as to not cause Flappy confusion.

Dragons no longer revert, neither the newly trained or the old trained ones. They got rid of the button, then added it back, but now dragons only get 1 round of training. However the dragons who received two rounds of training do not revert either anymore.

 

[Pawain]

If you want to make a physical damage AI/Chiv pet with one resist at 80, this would be a good choice for that.

 

[Merth]

 

[celticus]

View attachment 91115

Two things: Nice stat display. I like it. Is is from Pincos?
Second : Nice..Did not know Dragons can spawn at 3 slot. This is even cooler. Or I am seing wrong? Ty for info in advance..

 

[Merth]

Two things: Nice stat display. I like it. Is is from Pincos?
Second : Nice..Did not know Dragons can spawn at 3 slot. This is even cooler. Or I am seing wrong? Ty for info in advance..

Yes Pincos and this dragon is prepatch legacy whatever so im assuming it will jump slots

 

[Khaelor]

Yes Pincos and this dragon is prepatch legacy whatever so im assuming it will jump slots

Yes, it will jump slots the moment you press the blue button to initiate training.

 

[celticus]

Yes Pincos and this dragon is prepatch legacy whatever so im assuming it will jump slots

Sad that Pinco's is only for the EC. No version of it for the CC?

 

[Merth]

Sad that Pinco's is only for the EC. No version of it for the CC?

Unfortunately I dont believe so. I like alot of pinco features but prefer the cc.

 

[celticus]

Unfortunately I dont believe so. I like alot of pinco features but prefer the cc.

Same here..CC is is for me till the end, until a new graphics engine for EC and fixing the bugs..