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Pack Instinct Questions

SouthPaw

Lore Master
OK, anyone here tame up 5 of something and hunt with it? Is it viable or a healing/curing nightmare? Seems like it would be best to have 5 level 1 of the same pet for the best damage, but what pet would be best to do it with? Do lesser hiryu's have pack instinct? (I'm not home now, so I can't check) Seems like 5 hiryu's with over capped wrestling/parry and grasping claw would do quite well as long as they have pack instinct. Heck, even without pack instinct they would probably do well since grasping claw would be on the mob pretty much the whole time.
 

Mordha

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While I have not tried this, I do know lesser hiryu do not have pack instinct.
I do recall hearing of someone running with a pack of spiders (I don’t recall one) during the invasions and having a grand time.
The list of pets with pack instinct is a little on the small side, so that might be why that isn’t a popular option
 

SouthPaw

Lore Master
Darn. Well I'm guessing wolf spiders are the pack instinct pet with the highest HP/STR. If that's not true someone let me know. If I'm not mistaken they have good poison and magery too. But they only have around 180-200 HP. Seems like they would die a lot.
 

Pawain

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Darn. Well I'm guessing wolf spiders are the pack instinct pet with the highest HP/STR. If that's not true someone let me know. If I'm not mistaken they have good poison and magery too. But they only have around 180-200 HP. Seems like they would die a lot.
Yes those worked great on the invasion captains if someone was tanking them. Better than any single pet.

But you have to find Mobs that dont change targets and are aggroed on something else and not poison immune.

I was hoping the taming revamp would make pack pets useful. But we have not found the right combo that can take damage from a hard hitter.

Just waiting for someone to come up with a combo.
 

railshot

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There is an EC macro command that allows you to vet the most damaged follower. It's a god send for this, since all you have to do is spam vet to keep all of the pets alive. Inexplicably, it does not work with magery heal spell.
Taming mastery "As One" used to be useful until they nerfed it to not be mana sustainable.
As @Pawain implied, it's a glass cannon build that may be good in some very specialized scenarios.
 

Tabby Kapak

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I do recall hearing of someone running with a pack of spiders (I don’t recall one) during the invasions and having a grand time.
Might have been us, haha! We did have a blast using 2 sets of Wolf Spiders following up our tanking Lion. As Pawain and Railshot said, great option when mobs don't retarget or have area spells. In the invasion they died VERY quickly to Stratos's area lightning attack. After having such a success on the invasion generals we tried them in the Blackthorn Dungeon mini-cities... One word: FIASCO! Those mobs retarget all the time and one-shot-kill, can't be compared!
If I'm not mistaken they have good poison and magery too. But they only have around 180-200 HP. Seems like they would die a lot.
They don't have magery, but when boosted by the Provo-Bard Songs they did around 90-110 damage each bite, and they are FAST. We still use them occasionally, they do die a lot but speed up killing things as well. The tricky bit is often they tend to wander off on their own, and without the pack instinct they become useless. Even in the invasion they sometimes stubbornly ran off to attack an own target. Then they are annoying, but overall we enjoy them a lot. Hmmm, tempted to see how they will do on the roof. Might try them this evening.

Edit: Did have a run with the spiders, started with Juo'nar and didn't do too well, 3 died. But at least 2 felt preventable. Healing without protection would help. And he kept targeting the spiders, whereas on previous runs he usually mostly keeps targeting our tanking beetle. The others were quite doable, although on Anon we kept having to stop them as he went Earthy form very often... Might say they are TOO good for that heh. Virtuebane finally went down very fast (we don't have a cold pet in our set-up so normally takes long), and even his burn to ash didn't kill the spideys. Did call them back for the next few burn-to-ashes, with the warning that is doable. On Virtuebane they averaged 20 damage per hit, so 100 per round if they all hit. Much better than the 16 of our Fire Drake that they replaced this time. End conclusion: well doable, but not ideal.
 
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