random resources collection

[Kojak]

easy fix to this "problem" - just make the spots change once a month - most scripters are too lazy to go out and find the new spots every month but people mining by hand might find a few and be able to milk them a bit before the month is up

 

[NinjaSampire]

Well im mot sure. If ypu go to t2a on tram side. There is a scripter running inside guard zone there 24-7 southern papau. The toons name i wont mention but his name is the resource that is being harvested. Pretty advanced because it ports all around in like a really long cycle. I have reported it but was there again this am. So to me i hope they revert it. That way as im sitting there click click clicking my time will be geared toward the resource im after not something random. Resources are fairly cheap and i tend to buy them probably from scripters out of me being lazy. I am more apt to get my own instead of buying from them.

 

[Prince Erik]

I like the changing once a month idea - as I'll admit that while currently it's frustrating to gather resources when you need them in bulk, I would miss that "Whoot! Valorite!" feeling when you run across one. It really wouldn't take me long to map out my favorite spots and then I'd be done and redoing them once a month wouldn't be bad at all, IMHO.

 

[Tyrath]

I like the changing once a month idea - as I'll admit that while currently it's frustrating to gather resources when you need them in bulk, I would miss that "Whoot! Valorite!" feeling when you run across one. It really wouldn't take me long to map out my favorite spots and then I'd be done and redoing them once a month wouldn't be bad at all, IMHO.

It is a big world with a lot of mining spots. At the time they ruined mining, I had 13 runebooks filled with Val ore spots and was always finding a new one. That was from years of prospecting. My vote is just simply revert it to pre nerf and let us spend years more prospecting and marking the runes for the books.

 

[TB Cookie [W]]

I'm for random resources, with a tweak.

Gathering Resources got silly when you knew every location, a bit like T Maps.

The random idea was good, but, I agree it is too hard to find Valorites etc.
I still lumber manually on 3 shards, and mine on 1, the randomness is fine, it's more realistic as well, just the drop rates of higher stuff do seem too low.
Sometimes, I just don't get any.
I'd stick with random, but find a way to push higher level drop rates up.

 

[Kojak]

It is a big world with a lot of mining spots. At the time they ruined mining, I had 13 runebooks filled with Val ore spots and was always finding a new one. That was from years of prospecting. My vote is just simply revert it to pre nerf and let us spend years more prospecting and marking the runes for the books.

yeah, but remember when that was the case, I would be sitting at a valorite spot and you could just watch the steady procession of script miners recalling in and out and emptying out the spot all day every day - your "rosy" 20/20 hindsight is a little blurry

 

[It Lives]

I agree it needs to turned back to the old way, Then randomize the nodes every two years.

 

[skett]

I only mine and Lj in fel, like so many others have said for years the higher end resources just need turned up to hit more often
Or just put it back how it was with out the randomized spots.

I still have all my old books as well, maybe they'll work again if it's turned off.

 

[Tyrath]

yeah, but remember when that was the case, I would be sitting at a valorite spot and you could just watch the steady procession of script miners recalling in and out and emptying out the spot all day every day - your "rosy" 20/20 hindsight is a little blurry

Nope it isn't blurry at all, not saying they didn't exist. They were much easier to deal with, avoided fel and were not flooding the market with cheap resources. 60k iron igs are dirt cheap now heck even 60k valorite are cheap and there is a endless supply of them. Legit miners and LJs were pretty much gone after they fixed it and the only ones mining and Ljing seriously after and to present are the bots. That is not Rosy it is fact.

 

[Tina Small]

These are the methods, other than mining and lumberjacking, that I'm aware of for getting some of the rarer resources:

• Disabling merchant or pirate ships and taking the ore and lumber they carry. (Unfortunately, you can't get frostwood with this method.)
• Killing stuff on the 2nd level of Covetous and then claiming certain rewards from the Vela NPC in Cove: Cauldrons of Transmutation (to convert ingots or boards to ingots or boards of the next higher value, at a ratio of 3 to 1); miner's or lumberjack's map to be able to mine or lumberjack a specific type of ore or lumber from one location; talismans for improving smelting results or to give more lumber of a specific type.
• Turning in alchemy, carpentry, fletching, or tinkering BODs for rewards like the ones from Vela.
• Completing quests from Thepem the Apprentice or Zosilem the Alchemist to get elixers to convert ingots of one specific type to another type.
• Edited to add: Delivering trade orders (with or without using moongates).
• Killing ore elementals in locations where they naturally spawn or by forcing them to spawn by using a gargoyle pickaxe.
• Killing earth elementals wherever they spawn.
• Killing ant lions in the solen hive (give dull copper to bronze ore).
• In Shame dungeon, killing Stone Elementals for granite or Greater Earth Elementals or Molten Earth Elementals for ore.
• Killing boglings, bog things, corpsers, and reapers for plain logs.
• Ore cart and tree stump veteran rewards.

My suggestions for improving and adding to these alternative methods are:

• Edited to add: When mining or lumberjacking a location that yields a resource other than plain lumber or iron ore, all of the ore or lumber from that location will be at least 80% of the higher value lumber or ore.
• Add frostwood to merchant and pirate ship holds/chests.
• Remove the timers from the rewards from Vela/turning in BODs and also allow these rewards to be sold on vendors.
• Edited to add: If timers are removed, let the maps from Vela/BOD rewards be stored in Davey's lockers and have them reset their coordinates monthly if not used.
• Let regular earth elementals hold other types of ore than just iron and increase the amount of ore they drop.
• Add gold-valorite ores to the loot table for ant lions.
• Add additional types of logs to the loot tables for boglings, bog things, corpsers, reapers.
• Add more types of spawn that drops logs of various types.
• Let city governors use city treasury resources to set up vendors to sell plain lumber and ore like we used to do with factions. Perhaps there could be another system (similar to the trade order system) specifically for the purpose of funding ore and lumber vendors and it could use a different type of currency (e.g., silver?).
• Add commodity deeds for various types of resources to the casino system as a prize you occasionally win.
• Add commodity deeds for various types of resources to treasure chests from treasure maps and MIBs.
• If timers are removed from the Vela/BOD rewards for mining and lumberjacking, add these reward items as random drops in treasure chests and the Heartwood system.