Additional equipment

[CorwinXX]

What do you need besides a suit and a set of weapons for various encounters?

1. EP
If you use 2H weapons or 1H weapons with shields there is no sense to have EP on your main jewels. Even if you use 1H weapons without shields you may prefer to other mods on your main jewels.
So you need a special weapon and jewels to drink potions.

1.1. Jewels
You defenitely need 25 EP on each jewel (there is no much sense in using 50EP ring) but what's else?

1.1.1. Chivalry.
If you haven't 120 Chivalry it's a good idea to get it on EP-jewels. Your chance to cure high-level poison depends on you skill level. With 90 Chivalry you may fail to cure several times in a row and finally find yourself dead. So you will use your EP-jewels not only to drink poisons but also to cast some Chivalry spells (mostly Cure). (In this case you may want to add FC/FCR too so you could tocast faster).

1.1.2. DCI
If you have DCI on your main jewels you it's a good idea to get it on EP-jewels too. So you don't lose defence when you switch to EP-jewels.
(And the same reason is about defencive skills like Parrying/Bushido/Weapon Skill if you have them on your main jewels.)

1.1.3. HCI
If you have HCI on your main jewels you may want to get it on EP-jewels too. So you don't lose your chance to hit when you switch to EP-jewels (to apply a special move or leach or other hit effects while you drinking poisons).

1.2. Weapon.
If you sometimes use shields it's better to use a balanced 2H weapon because when you switch to a 1H weapon you don't take off your shield.

1.2.1. Paralize
As well as with jewels you may make your EP-weapon multipurpose. So it's a good idea to get on it a usefull special move that you haven't on your other weapons. If you don't PvM in Felucia it's good to get Paralize. Ohterwise you may want Disarm/Dismount/etc.

1.2.2. HCI/DCI
You usually needn't your statndard mods like HLL/HLD on your EP-weapon so you can get to the weapon some mods from jewels (and free up on EP-jewels some room for Chivalry/FC).


2. MR
Sometimes you need to restore mana/hp when you are out of a battle. For example, when you have just got ressurected. You can restore your hp fast using mana but how to get mana?
So it's a good idea to get some jewels with MR... And in addition to jewels you may get a weapon and a shield with MR/HPR/SR.

2.1. LRC
Usually when you got ressurected you want to cast on some spells like VE or Protection. And you will able to do this without reagents if you get LRC on your MR-jewels. You needn't 100 LRC to cast a spell without reagents. 40 LRC (20 on each jewel) gives you a dicent chance to cast a spell. And you don't worry much if you get "you haven't enough reagents..." message few times. I find it's much more practical than Arcane Boots. You may also get a Pedandt of the Mage to increase your chance for a free cast but as to me 40% is good enough.

2.2. Mage
To cast Protection you need some Magery... and your MR-jewels is a good place to get magery skill. In addition to Protection you will be able to cast Teleport (sometimes you need it to get where you want).

2.3. SC
As to MR-weapon and MR-shield usually you just want as much MR as possible. But having Spell Channaling to don't take them off when casting mage spells would be handy.

 

[Lord GOD(GOD)]

It would make more sense if you're building a setup that relies on pots (which I don't recommend - because they run out, because you'll have the wrong weapon equipped, because 'wait to perform another action', because of fumbling your macros etc.) to make your main jewels and weapons able to use them. Also if you die with any sort of regularity having all this extra gear insured is a costly way of finding out that your setup isn't working.

I'd rather carry one pair of Arcane Boots than 2+ pieces of LRC.

Tele/Prot from scroll, but chances are you'll lose them to them being looted before you run out from using them.

If mana on res was that much of a problem (can't say it ever has been) then carrying Mana Draught would probably be a better option.

I don't use the 'E'C' though, so don't have instant suit on/off, maybe those that do see it differently.

 

[CorwinXX]

It would make more sense if you're building a setup that relies on pots (which I don't recommend - because they run out, because you'll have the wrong weapon equipped, because 'wait to perform another action', because of fumbling your macros etc.) to make your main jewels and weapons able to use them. Also if you die with any sort of regularity having all this extra gear insured is a costly way of finding out that your setup isn't working.

I don't think that switching for another weapon is a so big problem when you get 30 STR and 30 DEX for 3 minutes. And who worries about few k extra insurance pay?
I don't want to replace, for example, a Double Axe for a Radiant Scimitar + Scimitar. (I see in this case you don't worry about extra insurance cost?)

I'd rather carry one pair of Arcane Boots than 2+ pieces of LRC.

One Arcane Boots is not enough. You spend charges even when you fizzle. If you unlucky you can spend 10-15 charges to recast VE and Protection ones.
And you should remember to buy or craft new ones.
I can't understand what your argument against LRC jewels are... well except extra 1k of insurance.

Tele/Prot from scroll, but chances are you'll lose them to them being looted before you run out from using them.

You needn't scroll to Teleport. And you need Teleport to get to some very useful places.

If mana on res was that much of a problem (can't say it ever has been) then carrying Mana Draught would probably be a better option.

Carrying Mana Draught for this case is the worst options. I believe you can't insure potions so you can't use it right after resurrection.
And what is the sense to spend a lot of time to get potions that are even not available on a vendors on most shards, when you can just put on MR-equipment for a short time?
If you haven't MR or have very low MR on your main equipment then mana on res is a problem... especially when you play solo. Because you need to heal yourself several times but you should wait 20 second for mana to heal. And usually you also need to heal your swamp dragon.

 

[Lord GOD(GOD)]

I don't think that switching for another weapon is a so big problem when you get 30 STR and 30 DEX for 3 minutes. And who worries about few k extra insurance pay?
I don't want to replace, for example, a Double Axe for a Radiant Scimitar + Scimitar. (I see in this case you don't worry about extra insurance cost?)

Any action carries a time delay, I'm not saying it's a big problem, but why make it a problem in the first place. You can easily use pots without needing to carry extra weapons/gear.

One Arcane Boots is not enough. You spend charges even when you fizzle. If you unlucky you can spend 10-15 charges to recast VE and Protection ones.
And you should remember to buy or craft new ones.
I can't understand what your argument against LRC jewels are... well except extra 1k of insurance.

10-15 chgs?!?! Can't say that's ever happened, but even if it did, as you like carrying a bag full of alt jewels why not just have Necro items?

You needn't scroll to Teleport. And you need Teleport to get to some very useful places.

No you don't. There are hardly any places/situations in UO where Teleport matters in the long run of a fight. Carrying a few gp scroll that you don't care about losing is still preferable to insuring items that will cost you every death.

Carrying Mana Draught for this case is the worst options. I believe you can't insure potions so you can't use it right after resurrection.
And what is the sense to spend a lot of time to get potions that are even not available on a vendors on most shards, when you can just put on MR-equipment for a short time?

I don't know I only play Atlantic at the moment where there's plenty of everything.

If you haven't MR or have very low MR on your main equipment then mana on res is a problem... especially when you play solo. Because you need to heal yourself several times but you should wait 20 second for mana to heal. And usually you also need to heal your swamp dragon.

Never need to heal swamp dragon, because either don't use one, or simply log out on death.

By the time you have your suit on you have enough mana to hit Confidence which is enough to start hitting things to leech. I've found this to be the case even without JOAT.

 

[CorwinXX]

By the time you have your suit on you have enough mana to hit Confidence which is enough to start hitting things to leech.

Try it on any serious caster-monster and you die before you make first hit. Entering a battle with 50 hp and 10 mana sounds like a suicide if you are not against a plush toy.

why not just have Necro items

I did (magery/necro/mr/lrc jewels). And if you have necro items you needn't arcane boots because you have lrc on the same items.

There are hardly any places/situations in UO where Teleport matters in the long run of a fight.

Farming whetstone is an easy example.
There are list of places where teleporting over some obstacle is better than a long way around.

You can easily use pots without needing to carry extra weapons/gear.

You can't if you use 2H weapon. And I don't see reason to waste 200 imbuing weight on your jewels.

 

[Lord GOD(GOD)]

Try it on any serious caster-monster and you die before you make first hit. Entering a battle with 50 hp and 10 mana sounds like a suicide if you are not against a plush toy.

The point isn't to run half dead in to the thing that killed you, but to have enough health to hit something weak you can leech to full from, it's pretty rare that there isn't an option for this.

I did (magery/necro/mr/lrc jewels). And if you have necro items you needn't arcane boots because you have lrc on the same items.

On top of your EP jewels, your Necro/LRC/MR jewels, weapons for spell channel, weapons for balanced... it's just a huge waste of insurance.

Farming whetstone is an easy example.
There are list of places where teleporting over some obstacle is better than a long way around.

No there isn't.

You can't if you use 2H weapon. And I don't see reason to waste 200 imbuing weight on your jewels.

Then don't use a 2H weapon. Or build for it in the first place. What is the point of building a pot reliant setup then handicapping yourself by running weapons/equip that don't let you pot so you have to change mid fight to use them. Sounds like a quick way to die.

 

[CorwinXX]

No there isn't.

Well, tell me how you get a whetstone in felucaa without teleporting over the river

then handicapping yourself by

What is "handicapping" for you? Using a car is a handicapping because you need to bend when you get in... so buses are much better.
Few clicks once per 3 minutes to get 60 stats when you need them - it's a huge sacrifice... probably wasting of time...

Sounds like a quick way to die.

In practice it is exactly opposite to what you say.
For example, I can do solo the roof with my 2H weapons in a five-years-old suit (no legendaries, no new artifacts). (real solo = without second account = death means starting from beginning)

it's just a huge waste of insurance

Who worry about insurance price? I used to carry 20+ weapon with me just because I don't want to think in advance which one I may need today. (Now I carry only 10 weapons because after getting a luck suit in my backpack I want to reduce weight).

it's pretty rare that there isn't an option for this

Most of peerless bosses and most of new bosses. It doesn't seem rare for me.

 

[Riply]

Hmm intersting topic, but I rarely use potions, Some of my armour has som enhance potion increase but not much. My jewerly has none but with 150 str and hpi and 150 dex and 201 stam and mana 55 and lmc 55 and 120 resist and almost 40 dci and hci even with devine fury active I just dont see a need. Plus I use a two handed bladed staff with HLA, HSL, HLL, HML and DI with all that leeching. I do use orange petals from time to time but in most cases not needed. The only real problems is when I hit a EM event and you get some thing that kills everyone and does huge amounts of damage.
But depending on you gear and game style of play EP can be huge as far as trying to fit in everything you need on your template.
I try and get other things on my ring and bracelet such as skills, 10 SSI on each Stat inc. DCI and HCI if possible and FC and FCR if possible.

 

[Lord GOD(GOD)]

Well, tell me how you get a whetstone in felucaa without teleporting over the river

Use a different character? Get them in Tram? Buy them for the few if any times you'd use them? Any reason you're setting pointless obstacles in front of a task that takes no time at all? It's hardly a vital need is it, to be power farming whetstones in Fel, like omg it's the big draw that everyone is going crazy for, farming it 24/7.

What is "handicapping" for you?

In this context, building a character that relys on pots then using items in your hands that don't allow you to use pots.

In practice it is exactly opposite to what you say.
For example, I can do solo the roof with my 2H weapons in a five-years-old suit (no legendaries, no new artifacts). (real solo = without second account = death means starting from beginning)

I don't think you've understood what you're actually quoting. A quick way to die being needing pots and being unable to use them because you equipped the wrong weapon/fumbled a macro/ran out/got shattered or whatever other obstacle.

Who worry about insurance price? I used to carry 20+ weapon with me just because I don't want to think in advance which one I may need today. (Now I carry only 10 weapons because after getting a luck suit in my backpack I want to reduce weight).

I do. Why would I want to carry around 19 items I don't need cluttering up my pack, taking up weight and costing me my hard earned gold, when I can just drop them at home and take the 1-2 weapons I might actually need. Admittedly on 1-2 characters I might take 5-6 weapons for different super slayers for events. No point at all carrying stuff you don't need.

Most of peerless bosses and most of new bosses. It doesn't seem rare for me.

Most peerless if you die you're done anyway, so really not seeing your point. Any spawn there's stuff to hit. On the way back to most fights there's stuff to hit. But again I'd concentrate more on why I died than how to regroup quicker after.

 

[CorwinXX]

Get them in Tram?

Please, don't say stupid things just to say something opposite. In tram you need to kill ~5 bosses to get an ingredient. In fel you get it on every kill.

t's hardly a vital need is it

It is just an example of a thing that you can do with a Teleport and can't do without. Is having 2 jewels in a backpack is a huge price for ability to do something you can't without them?

In this context, building a character that relys on pots then using items in your hands that don't allow you to use pots.

LOL. Pressing a key is not a handicap. Using a Radiant Scimitar instead of a Double Axe is a real handicap. Using a Scimitar instead of a Double Axe is a real handicap. Having 14 weapons instead of 7 for WW and DS is a handicap. 1k gold paid when you die is not a handicap. 2 stones additional weight is not a handicap.

A quick way to die being needing pots and being unable to use them because you equipped the wrong weapon/fumbled a macro/ran out/got shattered or whatever other obstacle.

There are a lot stupid things you can do in a fight. If you can't press a key you wanted it is not a template problem.

costing me my hard earned gold

LOL. What is 2k or even 10k per death for you? Even if you die 500 times per a year it is just 1m or 5m. And It is not 1999 when top artifact costs 50k.

Most peerless if you die you're done anyway

LOL again. Is there any such peerless boss? Tell me please. I've never met any. Probably you don't know about Sacrifice?

 

[CorwinXX]

and take the 1-2 weapons I might actually need

When I fight vbane I use 4 different weapons... And there are 4 bosses I need to kill without returning in town. It is just a small example.

 

[Tabin]

Correct. To farm whetstone, you need teleport. Good way is to carry a few teleport regs and equip rings/bracelet/spellbook with highest + magery (if you have 0 magery). Having a scribe to make teleport scrolls is certainly good since it fizzles less but I'm lazy so I just use rings/bracelets/spellbook.

If you die a lot trying to do difficult content, having arcane clothing can run you out of charges trying to cast something like VE. Much easier to bring 1 really high LRC artifact (i.e. Pendant of Magi) + Corgul Necromancy book. 50% LMC is high enough. Anything lower will take you a while...You will only have to pay insurance for the pendant since the necro book is blessed. =)

 

[Lord GOD(GOD)]

Please, don't say stupid things just to say something opposite. In tram you need to kill ~5 bosses to get an ingredient. In fel you get it on every kill.

It is just an example of a thing that you can do with a Teleport and can't do without. Is having 2 jewels in a backpack is a huge price for ability to do something you can't without them?

If you're carrying them constantly just for the sake of whetstones then yes it's a waste.

LOL. Pressing a key is not a handicap. Using a Radiant Scimitar instead of a Double Axe is a real handicap. Using a Scimitar instead of a Double Axe is a real handicap. Having 14 weapons instead of 7 for WW and DS is a handicap. 1k gold paid when you die is not a handicap. 2 stones additional weight is not a handicap.

Yes it is.

There are a lot stupid things you can do in a fight. If you can't press a key you wanted it is not a template problem.

I didn't say it was a template problem. It's a setup problem. That you can build for or around.

LOL. What is 2k or even 10k per death for you? Even if you die 500 times per a year it is just 1m or 5m. And It is not 1999 when top artifact costs 50k.

Corwin, are you soooo stupid that you don't realise there are other players in UO? That don't have mils that haven't been playing for years? I don't have to be one to realise this. Could you be any more ignorant?

LOL again. Is there any such peerless boss? Tell me please. I've never met any. Probably you don't know about Sacrifice?

Of course I do, but it's finite, and not every player has it. In some areas self ressing will just result in death.

 

[Lord GOD(GOD)]

When I fight vbane I use 4 different weapons... And there are 4 bosses I need to kill without returning in town. It is just a small example.

So the other 16 are for decoration?

 

[CorwinXX]

So the other 16 are for decoration?

Juggling with words?
You said 1-2 weapon is enough. I pointed you are wrong. Just admit it.
There are 4 different bosses on the roof. If you didn't know it you could just read it in the line you quoted.

 

[CorwinXX]

Let's separate speculations from facts in your posts.

Speculations:
It's always better to have EP on main jewels.
Arcane Boots is better than 2+ pieces of LRC.
Tele/Prot from scroll is better than 2+ pieces of LRC/Magery.
Mana Draught would probably be a better option than a 2+ pieces of MR.
There are hardly any places/situations in UO where Teleport matters in the long run of a fight. (proved to be wrong)
Additional equipment is just a huge waste of insurance.
Using 2H when you use potions (mostly STR/DEX against bosses) is a big handicap while using 1H weapon instead of 2H is not.

I don't agree with all of those speculations but it doesn't matter. If you don't like additional equipment just don't use it.


Fact:
Most peerless if you die you're done anyway, so really not seeing your point. (wrong)

There is only one fact and it is wrong.

Here is true fact:
About half of peerless (I didn't counted) has special place to resurrect.
On other you always can find safe place to res if you don't do stupid things.
If you have no Sacrifice you can leave the area, get res'ed and return using the same key. (I haven't tried it on every peerless without ankh so probably there are few exceptions)

If you're carrying them constantly just for the sake of whetstones then yes it's a waste.

I already said they are multipurpose. I use them to increase skills like magery and/or necro. I use them to regen mana fast.

It's a setup problem.

When I build a PvM Swordsman there are two options:
1. use 2H weapon and switch to another weapon to drink potions
2. use 2H weapon and don't use potions
It is obvious for me that the first option is better.
I even doesn't consider option to use 1H weapon to get free hand for potions because it is so huge handicap for me.

Corwin, are you soooo stupid that you don't realise there are other players in UO? That don't have mils that haven't been playing for years?

Lord GOD are you soooo stupid that you don't realise that any player who already has a mediocre suit has few k for insurance. Because only for PoF for his suit (including set of weapons) he spend so much gold that would be enough for hundreds of deaths. Really I don't know any PvM player who busted paying insurance at death.

Of course I do, but it's finite

Even if you are going to die 10 times on a boss where Sacrifice is the only possibility to res... you can use MR jewels first several (7-9?) times.

 

[cazador]

To get whetstone's just carry teleport scrolls. I have the biggest problem with the last air elemental guy. He sure does waste my honor! However I think I'm part of the few idiot human sampires elves are just so ugly. I carry teleport scrolls wall of stone scrolls no matter where I go. It's just part of my preparation to live in fact i do get raided on my sampire. However I do also carry a bad ass splintering hatchet in case they get frisky!

#ElveLivesDontMatterinUO


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[Lord GOD(GOD)]

I pointed you are wrong. Just admit it.
There are 4 different bosses on the roof. If you didn't know it you could just read it in the line you quoted.

No, what you did was state you carry 20 weapons, and I pointed out there is no encounter in UO where that is necessary.

 

[Lord GOD(GOD)]

Let's separate speculations from facts in your posts.

lol seriously, you?

Speculations:
It's always better to have EP on main jewels.

Not speculation, it is always better to not have to change jewels if relying on E.P.

Arcane Boots is better than 2+ pieces of LRC.

Not speculation, less items is better.

Tele/Prot from scroll is better than 2+ pieces of LRC/Magery.

Not speculation, you rarely need them.

Mana Draught would probably be a better option than a 2+ pieces of MR.

Not speculation, refilling mana has never been an issue.

There are hardly any places/situations in UO where Teleport matters in the long run of a fight. (proved to be wrong)

lol, proved to be wrong? I said "hardly any" and all you came up with was farming whetstones? I'd say that falls under the category of hardly any. About the only place worth Teleporting is Island T2A spawn, did this recently on my Thrower for an easy Semidar kill. The only reason I'm ever carrying Teleport is for PvP.

Additional equipment is just a huge waste of insurance.

Not speculation, it is a waste of insurance carrying items you don't need.

Using 2H when you use potions (mostly STR/DEX against bosses) is a big handicap while using 1H weapon instead of 2H is not.

I wouldn't say it's a big handicap, but it's still a handicap. Especially if as you're suggesting you're changing jewels, changing weapons, and pressing to chug, in the time it's taken you to do all of that you could be dead. You're not going to be hitting your specials due to 'wait to perform another action'.

I don't agree with all of those speculations but it doesn't matter. If you don't like additional equipment just don't use it.

I don't. I use what I need no more no less.

Fact:
Most peerless if you die you're done anyway, so really not seeing your point. (wrong)

It's not wrong. Keys expire, Sacrifice runs out, not all have enough distance to res safely.

Here is true fact:
About half of peerless (I didn't counted) has special place to resurrect.
On other you always can find safe place to res if you don't do stupid things.

No you can't.

If you have no Sacrifice you can leave the area, get res'ed and return using the same key. (I haven't tried it on every peerless without ankh so probably there are few exceptions)

Not if the keys have expired you can't.

Lord GOD are you soooo stupid that you don't realise that any player who already has a mediocre suit has few k for insurance. Because only for PoF for his suit (including set of weapons) he spend so much gold that would be enough for hundreds of deaths. Really I don't know any PvM player who busted paying insurance at death.

A lot of players don't have mediocre suits. Following your 'advice' would have them carrying around additional junk they don't need rather than building a solid character to begin with. The majority of players die a lot.

 

[CorwinXX]

Well, I see you came with another bunch of speculations.

Not speculation, it is always better to not have to change jewels if relying on E.P.

It's not a fact. To make it a fact you must to define:
1. What does "relying on E.P." mean.
2. How much you are ready to sacrifice for it? You can't get it as a free addition to mods you already have.
3. What does "better" mean? Faster killing? Less dying? Just more fun?

Not speculation, less items is better.

This is wrong too. If this were true everyone would go with an empty back pack.
And your previous statement about Arcane boots is a speculation. What does "better" mean?
By the way you contradict your own words here. Instead of two jewels you suggest to have 1-2 pair of arcane boot, few Mana Draught potions and a pack of teleport scrolls.

Not speculation, you rarely need them.

This is wrong too. I need them (my MR jewels, not your scrolls) every time when I'm out of fighting and want to regenerate mana fast.
And your previous statement about teleport scrolls is a speculation. What does "better" mean?
For example, a player may prefer just put item in his back pack once and be sure he never loses (or run out) it and he's always able to teleport.

Not speculation, refilling mana has never been an issue.

This is a speculation too. If you have never been in situation when you need to regen mana fast this means only that you have no such experience.
And your previous statement about Mana Draught is a speculation. "Mana Draught would probably be a better option than a 2+ pieces of MR." Does "would probably" means "the fact for your". And what does "better" mean?

Not speculation, it is a waste of insurance carrying items you don't need.

The last part of this statement is true. But I never suggested to insure items you don't need. I need additional equipment.
The first part of your statement is false because your previous statement about insuring additional equipment is speculations. You benefit from using additional equipment and pay for it some gold for insurance. And you statement that it is better to save money is a speculation. What does "better" mean?
Have you imagine that some people prefer go to fight instead of spending time in town looking for Mana Draught potions. There is no Mana Draught potions on vendor search on Atlantic. And you probably forgot that not all people play on Atlantic.

It's not wrong. Keys expire, Sacrifice runs out, not all have enough distance to res safely.

Your initial statement, that sounded like a fact, was "Most peerless if you die you're done anyway". And it is wrong.
Then you added a condition to it. And even with this condition it still was wrong. So you added another condition and so on.
You should admit that your fact was wrong and replace with a speculation like "there are some conditions when you can't res on peerless" and then add here a long list of conditions (I counted at least 4 conditions).

not all have enough distance to res safely

I don't know any peerless where you can't res safely (may be Grizzly? I have never been there).
In any case how this could make your wrong statement to become true?

A lot of players don't have mediocre suits.

1. It's just a speculation. Or show the source of this data.
2. Read the main post again. It is started with "What do you need besides a suit and a set of weapons for various encounters?" This post is for players who already got a suit.

 

[Lord GOD(GOD)]

1. It's just a speculation. Or show the source of this data.
2. Read the main post again. It is started with "What do you need besides a suit and a set of weapons for various encounters?" This post is for players who already got a suit.

In response to the first half of your reply. I'm not an English teacher, and the meaning of what I've written is clear, there's no point dissecting it into oblivion as it has no bearing on anything in UO.

In response to the quoted section. Again, I don't need to show 'source data' (who does?), it is based on my experience playing Atlantic, a heavily populated shard where most people that I see playing die a lot.

The word 'need' in your above quote about the main post is why I disagree.

 

[CorwinXX]

In response to the first half of your reply. I'm not an English teacher, and the meaning of what I've written is clear,

You needn't to be an English teacher to understand that if you think something is better it doesn't become a fact that it is better for all other people.
So all your statements I have marked as a speculation are just speculations (the forming of a theory or conjecture without firm evidence).

And you needn't to be a Mathematic teacher to understand that when you advice to keep 5 different (consumable) items (boots, mana potions, scrolls) instead of 2 jewels because "less items is better" it looks ... weirid.

 

[Lord GOD(GOD)]

And you needn't to be a Mathematic teacher to understand that when you advice to keep 5 different (consumable) items (boots, mana potions, scrolls) instead of 2 jewels because "less items is better" it looks ... weirid.

Think you've misunderstood.

Personally, on say an average sampire, I would have Arcane Boots insured, I don't bother with anything for mana as it's never been an issue, but if someone did want to carry a Mana Draught that's up to them, I only really carry Teleport if I'm intending to fight on a ledge at some point like at the Island Champ Spawn or if it's a PvP character for chasing/running away, but they wouldn't be insured anyway. So it's not my 5 items vs your 2, it's my 1 item vs your extra jewels (2?), weapons (f knows?) LRC/MR suits (again who knows how many).

 

[CorwinXX]

Think you've misunderstood.

So you write different from what you think. If you just worry about insurance price then amount of items doesn't matter because insurance on one item may vary from 10 to about 2k.

 

[Lord GOD(GOD)]

So you write different from what you think. If you just worry about insurance price then amount of items doesn't matter because insurance on one item may vary from 10 to about 2k.

I don't see how you mean, so no.

I don't personally worry about insurance, but I am aware that there are a lot of people who die a lot more often than I do, because they either don't have good suits or don't have good coordination when playing. Most players I've met in game in recent years play very casually, so for the majority of people I don't think carrying a pack full of items they don't need to insure for (usually quite unique situations - like farming whetstones) is a particularly good idea.

 

[CorwinXX]

Do you really don't understand what I wrote?

You words were "the less items the better". Then you said you don't count items that are not insured.

1. So you think about one thing "insurance amount" (less insurance is better) and write about another thing "items amount" (less items is better).
2. If you think about "insurance amount" then items amount doesn't matter. Only insurance amount does.
3. Because insurance amount doesn't directly related to amount of items. "Less items" doesn't mean "less insurance".

And this is what I wrote. But you quoted this and wrote that I don't understand. And then you wrote other stuff that is not related to the what I said. But I'm already not surprised because it is your usual behavior (I'd rather be surprised if you wrote you understand something). The same as above. And this is why I'm not going to continue explaining elementary things to you. I just can't afford to spend 30 min at every simple and clear idea to get it to you (after all, I don't need you to understand it).

Well, I was so stupid to spend another 30 minutes trying to explain something to you. But I think that it will end as usual: The same as above.

 

[Lord GOD(GOD)]

Do you really don't understand what I wrote?

You words were "the less items the better". Then you said you don't count items that are not insured.

1. So you think about one thing "insurance amount" (less insurance is better) and write about another thing "items amount" (less items is better).
2. If you think about "insurance amount" then items amount doesn't matter. Only insurance amount does.
3. Because insurance amount doesn't directly related to amount of items. "Less items" doesn't mean "less insurance".

And this is what I wrote. But you quoted this and wrote that I don't understand. And then you wrote other stuff that is not related to the what I said. But I'm already not surprised because it is your usual behavior (I'd rather be surprised if you wrote you understand something). The same as above. And this is why I'm not going to continue explaining elementary things to you. I just can't afford to spend 30 min at every simple and clear idea to get it to you (after all, I don't need you to understand it).

Well, I was so stupid to spend another 30 minutes trying to explain something to you. But I think that it will end as usual: The same as above.

Not usually no, maybe you should try putting the words in the right order so it's legible.

Your confusion comes from your (bizarre) need to dissect the language used when you don't speak the language very well.

It is both less insurance is better, and less items are better.

 

[CorwinXX]

The same as above .

 

[SpellBreaker]

Thanks for taking the time to post your perspective, found your original post informative.

My personal play-style does not include pots. Mana regen seems slow for me after a rez but it could be I'm in a hurry to get back into the action Arcane rob works for me instead of LRC but the LRC Necro book seems smart.

My wife and I are going to bring eatable items to expand our capabilities.


Thanks again, Be blessed!
Frederick
Spellbreaker