If an EM left an Event Item out would you return it?

[Zalan]

Just out of curiosity, if the EM left the Original Event Item out. You could pick it up and put it in your pack. Would you return the item to the EM? or would you keep it? Or sale it?

Now keep in mind if you return it. All you get is a Thank You.

 

[Nexus]

Wouldn't be the first one I'd have returned one. So yes I'd return it.

 

[Lord Frodo]

Not everybody that plays UO is dishonest and greedy. Yes I would return it. I have also bought items from vendors and returned the items to sellers that I knew for a fact the price was wrong. I did this at a public auction once and you should have heard to buyer SCREAM.

 

[BeaIank]

I would return it for sure.
Wouldn't even expect a thank you back.

 

[Lord Frodo]

Just out of curiosity, if the EM left the Original Event Item out. You could pick it up and put it in your pack. Would you return the item to the EM? or would you keep it? Or sale it?

Now keep in mind if you return it. All you get is a Thank You.

So by your silence are you saying you would not or did this happen to you and you are wondering what you should do?

 

[Capt. Lucky]

I'd keep it. It's a cartoon icon in a video game lol. These are the stories that make UO great!

 

[MalagAste]

I would return it.

 

[Zeke]

I noticed only the Yes I'd return it made a comment lol - oh and I'd return it of course.

 

[Capt. Lucky]

I noticed only the Yes I'd return it made a comment lol - oh and I'd return it of course.

Read it again

 

[Spock's Beard]

I'd keep it. The EM or whoever can just push a button and make another one appear if he misses it.

 

[Winker]

I have always played by the rule if its on the ground its anyone's and free to take and its not yours until its in the bank

 

[Captn Norrington]

I'd keep it. The EM or whoever can just push a button and make another one appear if he misses it.

The issue with that is EM's have actually been fired for mistakes like this in the past. By not returning it you might literally be causing them to lose their job. If Mesanna does a search on that item for whatever reason and sees 11 exist instead of 10, then goes and investigates the issue and sees it went directly from the EM's backpack, to the floor, to your backpack.... It makes it look like the EM corruptly gave a player a free item unfairly.

 

[Captn Norrington]

Yes I would return it (and have done that on GL once in the past).

 

[CovenantX]

I'd return it if the EM personally asked for it back.

If not, I wouldn't. -Simple.

 

[Capt. Lucky]

The issue with that is EM's have actually been fired for mistakes like this in the past. By not returning it you might literally be causing them to lose their job. If Mesanna does a search on that item for whatever reason and sees 11 exist instead of 10, then goes and investigates the issue and sees it went directly from the EM's backpack, to the floor, to your backpack.... It makes it look like the EM corruptly gave a player a free item unfairly.

I'd hope Mesanna has better things to do lol.

 

[Capt. Lucky]

I'm still trying to figure out how that would happen.... it's not like one can just drop something easily. It's a process

 

[Captn Norrington]

I'm still trying to figure out how that would happen.... it's not like one can just drop something easily. It's a process

The interesting thing is that technically EM's are not physically capable of dropping an item like that. Their accounts are set so that 100% of items they drop are instantly locked the floor because of issues where they forgot to lock stuff down in the past.

If that EM was able to drop something without it auto-locking down, there is a setting wrong on their account that a dev needs to fix. Or that option was unlocked for them on purpose.

 

[Minerva Foxglove]

I would return it. Already did some years ago.

 

[DJAd]

I would offer to sell it back to them at a hugely inflated price.

 

[Victim of Siege]

Wouldn't be the first one I'd have returned one. So yes I'd return it.

i have returned one as well.

 

[Smoot]

The interesting thing is that technically EM's are not physically capable of dropping an item like that. Their accounts are set so that 100% of items they drop are instantly locked the floor because of issues where they forgot to lock stuff down in the past.

If that EM was able to drop something without it auto-locking down, there is a setting wrong on their account that a dev needs to fix. Or that option was unlocked for them on purpose.

this is not true. ask @Longtooths

 

[Smoot]

id keep it. giving it back would destroy much of a lessoned learned to be more careful and precise with the EM position. in the end, its pixels. if they want another one for reward hall they could get another one.

if it was a player now that would be another story. unless i hated the guy i would give it back if a player dropped it by accident.

 

[Basara]

The interesting thing is that technically EM's are not physically capable of dropping an item like that. Their accounts are set so that 100% of items they drop are instantly locked the floor because of issues where they forgot to lock stuff down in the past.

If that EM was able to drop something without it auto-locking down, there is a setting wrong on their account that a dev needs to fix. Or that option was unlocked for them on purpose.

this is not true. ask @Longtooths

There's been issues with that.

Lake Austin had several of our EM locked down items vanish (including one of the pieces of the Traccor armor that Augustus' events were giving out), when we transitioned from Augustus to Topaz. Near as we can figure, for those items, the auto-lockdown failed either prior to the transition, or when the transition became official. As the items were locked down in our seldom-visited Fairgrounds Hall in the hinterlands of Malas, no one knows if the items just decayed after their lockdowns failed, or if someone actually picked them up. All we know is that items that had been locked down disappeared in the time just prior to Augustus' last event, and Topaz's first event, and Topaz had no clue as to why.

 

[dukarlo]

I would keep it and disappear and here is why. I stole one from an EM legit in Fel and returned a few minutes later and asked the EM about the item and the EM simply took it back. She offered me the event item that was being given out by the boatload but I was mad that she simply took it back outside of the context of the game and so I refused it. If I was greedy I would have accepted the item she offered or disappeared to begin with. I refused out of principle.Trying to ransom the item even in an RP sense would get you no where. So in addition to players now being protected by ridiculous rules and facets so now the EMs are protected even further from themselves. After that incident If something similar happened I would just disappear out of principle.

 

[elster]

How have so many of you done this before? There's at least 4 people in this thread claiming that they've returned EM items in this scenario. They must be dropping these things a lot.

 

[SugarMMM]

Yes I would return it.





Well, unless it was a castle then I'd keep it!
I really want a castle.

 

[Capt. Lucky]

Just out of curiosity, if the EM left the Original Event Item out. You could pick it up and put it in your pack. Would you return the item to the EM? or would you keep it? Or sale it?

Now keep in mind if you return it. All you get is a Thank You.

Let's just cut to the chase. What do you want for it?

 

[Longtooths]

@Smoot ,

Naw, that wasn't the EM that put it down. It was one of their friends that put it out to show everyone. The EM just saw me snake it and asked me to return it.....which I did.

 

[angelus aconitum]

The issue with that is EM's have actually been fired for mistakes like this in the past. By not returning it you might literally be causing them to lose their job. If Mesanna does a search on that item for whatever reason and sees 11 exist instead of 10, then goes and investigates the issue and sees it went directly from the EM's backpack, to the floor, to your backpack.... It makes it look like the EM corruptly gave a player a free item unfairly.

I voted for that I would keep it, but reading your message ........ maybe I would vote for giving the item back now. But I bet the EM's were not fired because of a mistake, so .....

If I would be sure nobody would suffer from my decision, then I would keep it, because it is just a piece of pixels and it not an abuse of game mechanics.

 

[Luc of Legends]

Sadly, I am too nice. I would return it. Yeah, Yeah it only pixel crack but I would rather be nice.

 

[sirion]

Earlier this year in one event I was sitting on the front row and the EM was on the platform just 2 tiles away from the crowds. He wanted to show an item as part of the story arc, so he put it on the table in front of him. I mouse-hovered the item to see its name --- my finger accidentally clicked the mouse (or maybe I just wanted to see if it was locked down). That's already some 3~4 seconds elapsed. Anyhow...oops, to my surprise the item was now dragging on my cursor. I realized what I did while the EM also realized it was gone. The panic lasted for about 5 seconds as I spoke up and handed it back. That EM remembered me and thanked me every time he saw me.

I forgot what the item was but it was very nice and unique and was not a boss drop item. I was also surprised the item wasn't locked down right away especially it was within reach of many players.

In the end, yes, all I got was thank you

 

[Poo]

id be on lit like a fat kid on a candy.
like Oprah on a honey'd ham.

 

[Kolka]

Like everyone else, I would claim to return it, but actually keep it or sell it for rediculous amounts of imaginary gold.

 

[Kolka]

id be on lit like a fat kid on a candy.
like Oprah on a honey'd ham.

There's an image I didn't need first thing in the morning.

 

[Lord Frodo]

There's an image I didn't need first thing in the morning.

 

[THP]

sounds like a fairytale

 

[Aran]

I return nothing, to no one.

 

[Queen Arya]

Well it depends. If my EM made a shiney golden toad or a pulsating glowing mushroom I may be tempted to keep it. Alas the EM on my shard is well seasoned and besides there are so many event goers with huge amounts of flapping gargoyles and dragons I would never even see the item. I have all I can do to read the EMs words and try and see the event

 

[Uvtha]

Just out of curiosity, if the EM left the Original Event Item out. You could pick it up and put it in your pack. Would you return the item to the EM? or would you keep it? Or sale it?

Now keep in mind if you return it. All you get is a Thank You.

Hah no. I'm not some greedy rares hound or anything, It's just not a real object, no one has lost property, so I don't see what possible harm is being done. They could delete it from your bag or make a million more if they wanted to. I'd consider it my reward for being keen eyed.

In real life if I found something someone lost, I would do my best to get it back to them, because in that scenario an actual items has been lost by someone, and that could negatively impact their life. If the EM would get fired or something, then sure I'd give it back.

 

[Zalan]

It was something that happened a few months ago. I emailed the EM and returned it within 24 hrs.

 

[Tyrath]

If I were on my Thief Tough Luck there EM, if I were on my paladin hand it over and accept the disingenous thanks.