if this is coming from the guy who tried to defend non-disruptable 50 damage holy fists, then i take it as a compliment.
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4/6 Remove Curse (Chivalry)
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Escaping and evading part you must have missed, which whether you like it or not is a part of PvP in that regard I own you
And it would seem every other defensive player owns you in the regard as well 
Tyrath paithan is an old fox, he wants his army of 5 archers to lock mortals and insta kill ppl. Ofc he hates if someone can remove the mortal fast, they want 0 competition, v sad
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Ahhh the first and last argument of the one trick pony PK. If you can't kill them just say they don't understand to make yourself look more competent.
Problem is I understand my template very well and how to use it to my maximum benefit. Including its limitations and strengths. The strength being a mage is not going to insta kill it and the weakness being the same thing. You are going to have to actually spend some time and earn the kill on a high defense player running 120 chiv max karma and 120 resist.
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I knowTyrath paithan is an old fox, he wants his army of 5 archers to lock mortals and insta kill ppl. Ofc he hates if someone can remove the mortal fast, they want 0 competition, v sad
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I have ran across them a time or two and survived quite easily. I am never going to kill them but they are not going to just roll me either and that really annoys folks that want the fast kill on a non PvP and just can't seem to score it.
Tyrath paithan is an old fox, he wants his army of 5 archers to lock mortals and insta kill ppl. Ofc he hates if someone can remove the mortal fast, they want 0 competition, v sad
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You on the other hand understand the strengths and weakness of chiv and would be dangerous
Ummm.. I have made my argument. No one is giving a reason why remove curse is balanced by being cast 2x faster minimum than curses AND removing multiple curses.
I forgot about how you can spam mortal, so that is a great point you make. (sarcasm)Tyrath paithan is an old fox, he wants his army of 5 archers to lock mortals and insta kill ppl. Ofc he hates if someone can remove the mortal fast, they want 0 competition, v sad
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it should not be the same, how useless is something when the + and the - are equal? defense should always be slightly in front of an offense.
thats the same with the "frehsly nerved mortal" because you could apply the "curse" more than remove it as the apples have a delay. now after make some adjustments the curse is not so powerful anymore and you actually have a chance to not be mortal to death.
your argument is maybe simple, but obviousely more or less you and your bunch of curse gankers are the only ones who got the same opinion.
well always the same statements. YEAH GOOD THAT YOU MENTION IT; YOU DID THIS ALSO....
of course he and all others used mortal stacking and novas and alchemy and conflags, if they would not they were simply idiots to not use all possabilities while fighting.
Have you ever hears of disrupting a spell? It is very possible and quite easy to do, of course the spells to keep me disrupted are low level low damage and that just won't do will it
a lot of people gave reasons but you just ignore it.
The Paithan 's game is simple guys: he has 5 archers with elemental bows ok.... He casts a curse... And u get rekt with moving shots because the bows hit on the resists set to 60 due the curse.... So if u higher the time of a remove curse u end up getting slaughtered with 5 armour ignores because highering the timer is simply ridicolous. If u want hyper offensive make an alchemy archer- hyper defensive make a chiv char. He wants to remove the opposite of what they fight against!!
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It wouldn't be useless as all. You could still get that off before any offensive spell (4th circle and above) is cast again. The only damaging spells below that have delays other than harm. So you could get off a remove curse before the next offensive spell. lol. And remove curse is not "slightly" faster than the curses. It is a ridiculous 2-4x faster.
Mortal you can't spam- not sure why you are bringing that up.
I keep reading how chivalry has been in game for 13 years etc etc etc. it's a pretty simple argument actually. If you play just a basic focused Necro. You have Blood Oath, Strangle, Mind Rot, Corpse Skin, Evil Omen let's say you play a debuff support character. Let's also say those spells all take 1s to cast..which they don't, just saying for the sake of argument. That's 5 seconds of casting for a .25s negation. Never mind the mana cost and fizzle factor, the 2/6 needed in the suit, the having to stop to cast. It's completely one sided. Yes you need 4/6 casting to make it so fast, even 2 years ago it wasn't so pathetically easy to make a 4/6 suit. So to say it's been in game for 13 years it's not broken is a ridiculous argument. It was never a viable template in pvp..minus the 4/6 Mage days which are long gone and balanced out. I don't see his request as ZOMG i can't pee vee peeeeee now. Paith is actually a talented PvPer who has been for quite some time. This is a balance issue. Which I agree with..however the question remains how? Because chiv 4/6 heal/cleanse is in fact OP. I can go afk and not die 2v1...that's not balanced that's crazy.
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there's some that complain about holyfist,4/6,mortal/remove curse, there are others that complain about curse, eat apple then get re-cursed ect... I do feel curse is too strong but I don't think there needs to be any changes. maybe holyfist should only work for pure fighters, like pure mage. on the use of multi chars, its doesn't matter if 5 archers or 5 mages dumping on u, its not good for the game but the devs just wont listen. just my opinions.
I am talking about one v one and balance of spell cast time vs effectiveness.The Paithan 's game is simple guys: he has 5 archers with elemental bows ok.... He casts a curse... And u get rekt with moving shots because the bows hit on the resists set to 60 due the curse.... So if u higher the time of a remove curse u end up getting slaughtered with 5 armour ignores because highering the timer is simply ridicolous. If u want hyper offensive make an alchemy archer- hyper defensive make a chiv char. He wants to remove the opposite of what they fight against!!
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Haha what u talking about? U clearly have lack of pvp knowledge. Icecast was playing chiv chars 5/6 yrs ago even rofl. And u don't remember the chiv ninja dp chars of 9 yrs ago... U clearly are not a pvper or just a succubus
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Agreed.. but lets keep this thread to just remove curse as it will spiral out of control if the whole lot of spells are brought up. I made a separate thread for that.
The chiv chars are defensive, but try to kill someone 1vs1 with a chiv char!!!!! it's very hard. U cry because u want to kill anyone Within few seconds making the game unbalanced again
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And that is exactly what this thread is about nothing more and nothing less.The chiv chars are defensive, to kill someone 1vs1 it's very hard. U cry because u want to kill anyone Within few seconds making the game unbalanced again
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They have archers dealing 150 hp damage in 3.75 second ( 3 ai and nova , bows with two spells!!!) and they cry about a spell of 2003 that reduces some of their actions
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I quote the perfect argument . U paithan...cry for a nerf just to make the game unbalanced again to your favour. Funny
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Again, this is not about chiv. It already has a super fast heal, cure, and dispel. This is about the balancing of speed for remove curse. I am not sure why you can't grasp this.The chiv chars are defensive, but try to kill someone 1vs1 with a chiv char!!!!! it's very hard. U cry because u want to kill anyone Within few seconds making the game unbalanced again
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Problem is you are expressing an opinion. Just because that is how you feel does not make it fact.
As far as I am concerned curse removal should be stronger when executed by a paladin... I mean after all they are paladins.
Ok, if the remove curse is that much stronger than all of the other curses- the trade off is it is slowed down.
That is kind of how this game works. More powerful spells=longer cast.
Man u complain about a spell of 2003, u got rekt some fights and The World collapses...
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well i think the answer is you can add chivalry to your character seeing as how all powerful it is.
Great post that is neither accurate or on topic.Man u complain about a spell of 2003, u got rekt some fights and The World collapses...
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I get it- you are scared of the thought of adding .5 seconds to remove curse.
Yep that perfectly summed up why it can remove multiple curses at twice the speed of any of the curses. Bringing up some good points my man.
Maybe I'm reading into this wrong but I'm pretty sure he's just telling you to add it to your template instead of nerfing it.
Yes. That is exactly what he was saying. I was being sarcastic with my response. It did not argue the merit of it in the least bit.
Except he says he has no problem living through Chiv-users.
"More Powerful spells = Longer cast"... with damaging and healing spells, Yes... Remove Curse is neither.
Remove Curse isn't "more powerful" than any of the curses it removes. Hence why people.... remove.... curses.
Do you apple when you're effected by weaken, clumsy, or feeble mind? would you cast remove curse if you were?
The best part of this whole discussion, is I'd actually benefit from remove curse being nerfed in any way.
I mean for him is cool to cast ONE or TWO curse ...lower the resist of a target to 60 and have 5 archers moving shotting u down with a poison dmg composite.....within two screens dealing 50 dmg on the run.... Per single shot....No OP... Ok
At least a fast remove curse gives u a chance to stay alive
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At least a fast remove curse gives u a chance to stay alive
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A spell that is 2x faster than any of the curses and can remove multiple curses- That is most certainly the definition of a more powerful spell. It does not need to deal damage to be more powerful.
You can't comment on how I play seeing as how you haven't seen me on in many months- that being said- i ABSOLUTELY would play or play with someone that is abusing a broken/powerful mechanic of the game that others are using as well. Until it gets fixed- you have to fight fire with fire. I will lobby for balance in the mean time.
Rofl... Poor Paithan twist reality at your favour as usual
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It sounds like you have a problem with moving shot. You can have 5 mages flame strike you when cursed and you will die too. But again, you are talking about something that has nothing to do with remove curse cast speed and effectiveness vs the curses.I mean for him is cool to cast ONE or TWO curse ...lower the resist of a target to 60 and have 5 archers moving shotting u down with a poison dmg composite.....within two screens dealing 50 dmg on the run.... Per single shot....No OP... Ok
At least a fast remove curse gives u a chance to stay alive
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Please. Elaborate. I am sure people reading the thread would like to see you make a point. I would love to hear it as well.Rofl... Poor Paithan twist reality at your favour as usual
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U and prolly a couple of your friends are the only one crying for a spell that is here since 13 years.... Wake up please, u cannot always win every fight. Just make some paladins if u feel them so OP rofl...( spells of 2003...) hilarious
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I can comment on how you play, I've played with you, very long ago.... and against you, (yea it's been about 2 months or so, (i haven't been actively playing UO as much lately).
But to say you absolutely would be abusing broken mechanics if they existed.... you did with the curse bug, you wouldn't fight without it... infact everyone that pvps with an against you knows it.
Your entire pvp as of the last ~6 months has been to curse/debuff people as the two or more Archers in your guild running-shot people down. It's a hell of a shocker you want one of the only things that CAN defend against that to be nerfed. I figured you'd probably try to transition into a focused necromancy to use corpse skin the same way- I'll save you some time,it's less beneficial for your group to do that.
I'd also hate to say it, but adjusting Parry the way I suggested it -tie it to a weapon skill (Wrestling/Anatomy, do not count as "weapon skills") would fix the only 4/6 chivalry template your group would EVER have a problem fighting, not only would it reduce their parry chance (vs weapons), it would also cut the damage of holy-fist.
But guess what, it would also nerf the character you play most.... "Healing,Anatomy, Parry-mage"- another shocker, I know....
come to think of it, you stack a lot of defensive skills for someone who only curses, people.
U have a mage with alchemy And healing and parry.... And u cry for one spell of a dexer.... Rofl
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I knew I was missing something, Alchemy, low/no med... tisk tisk...U have a mage with alchemy And healing and parry.... And u cry for one spell of a dexer.... Rofl
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No wonder he's crying about not being able to kill someone with remove curse, he'd run out of mana before he can make any progression in a fight vs 4/6.
Umm.. I haven't played in about 5 months. lol. When I did play I pvped solo and with one other person quite often. But you clearly know more than me about my pvp (again irrelevant).
And I said I absolutely WOULD abuse a mechanic. Unfortunately it is the only way to get things fixed. I cursed bugged just as much as anyone else. Was I happy as f when they fixed it? You better believe it.
So great post man.
I will only respond to your posts that have any relevance with why remove curse is 2x faster than all the curses and can remove multiple curses at once. Deflection is a bad look.U have a mage with alchemy And healing and parry.... And u cry for one spell of a dexer.... Rofl
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Lies lies as always. You just complain about the only thing that can counter your pvp tactics with your archer army. And it's something created in 2003 , u make me laugh haha
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I've said nothing about killing anyone with remove curse.
I have compared it to the curses it removes. That is it. And it is not even close how much more powerful it is than the curses it removes.
That's what I said, "would" because you did, the last time I pvped on atlantic you were there with Tervor, De leet ed, diddles & TJ.
I never said you were or weren't happy it was fixed. nor do disagree with it either. -it's irrelevant ... nice post man.
Btw, reducing the cast time of Remove Curse is effected by any and all possible forms of damage & interrupts. so A N Y T H I N G that does so, is relevant to this discussion.
He loves playing with 5 archers who deal 50 dmg per moving shot after curse
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P.s. The only way they begin to lose fights is when I log on on my chiv char and counter their whole crew. Pretty funny
Nobody on UO can field 5 archers with such good items And experience and speed... Paithan has to curse, weaken spam and xheal, nothing else
Try to fight them with 5 mages u will end up mortaled moving shotted down , they can deal 250 dmg on the run every second
I find it funny that HE TALKS lol...to make the game unbalanced... Totally to his crew
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Nobody on UO can field 5 archers with such good items And experience and speed... Paithan has to curse, weaken spam and xheal, nothing else
Try to fight them with 5 mages u will end up mortaled moving shotted down , they can deal 250 dmg on the run every second
I find it funny that HE TALKS lol...to make the game unbalanced... Totally to his crew
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