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all Virtues to Knight level - check!

Poo

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finally hit Knight in my last Virtue tonight.
only took a week or so, wasn't bad, fun way to kill time.
if it wasnt for the damn Compassion one and its daily limit i would have been done this in only a couple days!!

now off to find something else to add to my collections.

 

Poo

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Do virtues decay like fame?
negative.

they turned off the decay a ways back.
now you only see decay when you toggle them.
so if you res someone and they get the 80% health upon res then it will hit your Compassion.
if you buy something from a NPC then your Honesty takes a hit.
if you self res you take a hit to your Sacrifice, ect ect ect.
 

Eärendil

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negative.

they turned off the decay a ways back.
now you only see decay when you toggle them.
so if you res someone and they get the 80% health upon res then it will hit your Compassion.
if you buy something from a NPC then your Honesty takes a hit.
if you self res you take a hit to your Sacrifice, ect ect ect.
Well then: Congratulations!
 

Zalan

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Congrats! Did they cheat you out of the t shirt that says "I became a Virtue Knight & all I got was this dam t shirt."
 

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Wasn't there a title associated with getting all of the virtues to knight
 

PaithanTheElf

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negative.

they turned off the decay a ways back.
now you only see decay when you toggle them.
so if you res someone and they get the 80% health upon res then it will hit your Compassion.
if you buy something from a NPC then your Honesty takes a hit.
if you self res you take a hit to your Sacrifice, ect ect ect.
For some reason when you rez your VvV pets, you lose compassion too!
 

Lorddog

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whats the top left one? shepards crook
why does it look greyed out?
if that is the full virtue color, they need to make it pop a little more (neon grey?)
 

Mene (DF)

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And when you res another character you gain spirituality while losing compassion.
With a bit luck by killing controllers (Exodus Dungeon or Blackthorne's Castle) you'll find a green bottle of compassion sage within ;). Just drin it and gain.
 

PaithanTheElf

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whats the top left one? shepards crook
why does it look greyed out?
if that is the full virtue color, they need to make it pop a little more (neon grey?)
It's humility. And it does need to pop more I agree. Big fan of the honor color. Might work it just for that.
 

Merlin

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I think at one point the Developers said that they would address what special ability / buff or whatever it may be would be gained from gaining Knighthood in all futures, but they weren't ready to finalize anything yet as they had only just recently finished up the last few virtues.
 

Dot_Warner

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Shouldn't you be a paragon of virtues now?
Technically, those who have knighted all eight should be an Avatar. Don't hold your breath for that title though, last I heard it was off the table.

'the Paragon,' or 'the Virtuous' are the likely choices for suffix titles. I'd also like to see a reward title choice associated with knighting each virtue.

@Kyronix might be able to shed more light on any plans.
 

Celestial_lich

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I believe the original title was supposed to be "The Virtuous" associated with mastering them all if memory serves correctly.
 

Poo

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How/what did you Honor so quickly
Succubus - i had done it before on my Bushido warrior a couple years ago so i already knew those where the 'gold ticket' to get to knight. That said you still need to kill a lot of them.
i had been honoring the Demons i was killing in Fel while working up Fame to Sacrifice to gain in.... well Sacrifice. So i had already got up to Tier 2 by just doing that, but getting up to the top Tier 3 ya need to hit the Succabus's for sure.

i actually tracked my gains while killing them for interest sake. (gotta love OCD) ((one, two, three, four))
From the beginning of Tier 3 it was as follows for each of the baubles;
1 - 5 succubus
2 - 6
3 - 12
4 - 12
5 - 16
6 - 25
7 - 31
8 - 37
9 - 63
DONE!
 

Poo

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for interest sake, since im looking at my numbers.
i noticed that on some places it lists the gains for Compassion as;
2 NPC/DOT @ seeker
3 NPC/DOT @ follower
4 NPC/DOT @ Knight

but i found the gains to be different than that.
my numbers when i tracked it was as follows;
2 NPC/DOT @ seeker
3 NPC/DOT @ follower
5 NPC/DOT @ Knight
 

Poo

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ah what the hell, lets finish this off.

my gains for Sacrifice per Fame dump.

0.6 -> dumped 10k fame -> 1.0
1.0 -> dumped 11k fame -> 1.4
1.4 -> dumped 12k fame -> 1.7
1.7 -> dumped 10.5k fame -> 2.0
2.0 -> dumped 11k fame -> 2.2
2.2 -> dumped 11k fame -> 2.4
2.4 -> dumped 10.5k fame -> 2.6
2.6 -> dumped 11k fame -> 2.8
2.8 -> dumped 10.5k fame -> 3

so it looks like as long as your dumping over 10k per day the gain rate is;
0.4 up to tier 1
0.3 up to tier 2
0.2 up to tier 3
 

Poo

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Last one - Honesty

taking found items directly to their owner using Forensics.
up to tier 1 - 16 items returned (0.63 Dot's per item returned)
up to tier 2 - 21 items returned (0.48 Dot's per item returned)
up to tier 3 - 35 items returned (0.29 Dot's per item returned)
72 items returned in total
 

Fridgster

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finally hit Knight in my last Virtue tonight.
only took a week or so, wasn't bad, fun way to kill time.
if it wasnt for the damn Compassion one and its daily limit i would have been done this in only a couple days!!

now off to find something else to add to my collections.

I'm going to save this photo on my desktop so that the next time I'm complaining about raising honor alone. Very well done.
 

Kylie Kinslayer

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Grats Poo! I know what a grind it is. Especially the dang Honesty one.

Big fan of the honor color. Might work it just for that.
Shoot, I keep honor lit up. It comes in handy. Any time I try to sneak off a spawn and get raided I honor up.. run into the swarm of critters, then fight the raider(s) ;)
 

Merlin

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Technically, those who have knighted all eight should be an Avatar. Don't hold your breath for that title though, last I heard it was off the table.

'the Paragon,' or 'the Virtuous' are the likely choices for suffix titles. I'd also like to see a reward title choice associated with knighting each virtue.

@Kyronix might be able to shed more light on any plans.
Anything less than "Avatar" won't feel right.
 

GarthGrey

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The reward for becoming a Virtue Knight, should be that there's no more daily limit to regaining the individual virtues, for that character, ever.
 

Dot_Warner

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Anything less than "Avatar" won't feel right.
Its unlikely to happen though, mainly due to things like "K3wL |) e\/\/d the Avatar" or "(insert potentially offensive name here) the Avatar" is undesirable to the devs.

Also, the Avatar in Ultima lore was basically a messianic figure, meant to save the world/reality from existential and apocalyptic threats. How do you fictionally reconcile that without either giving 8xKnight players unbalancing power, or essentially contextually neutering the title?
 

SlayerofBunnys

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This is what they told us... years ago. @Poo, did you check to see if you had that title available? If not, I'll ask at the next dev meet & greet.
It is not listed under Skills, Veteran, or Reward (and yes I made sure I was still a Knight in all 8 virtues).
 

Poo

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This is what they told us... years ago. @Poo, did you check to see if you had that title available? If not, I'll ask at the next dev meet & greet.
i didnt see any titles.
i didnt know there was any either.
but no there are definitely no new titles added to my guy that i can see
 
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