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I dont think i ever met someone from Iceland playing uo tbhI don't personally have a dog in this fight, but I'll chime in with an opinion.
All servers are hosted through AWS (Amazon Web Services). They do have a data center in Frankfurt, but I could only see moving 1 of the 2 European servers there, namely Drachenfels. Why? Because in moving Europa from Ireland to Frankfurt you are only putting Iceland in the same situation countries like Turkey are in now, you're trading one having a terrible ping for another. Splitting servers across multiple hosting providers doesn't make sense either when AWS has a fairly central location available.
@ziox is this true? I thought the cost of servers was quite similar?And I am also sure its pretty much a matter of money.
A decent server in France wouldn't cost more than 60 $ per month....@ziox is this true? I thought the cost of servers was quite similar?
You talk about something that you have no knowledge of ....Why do they have to play as dexers just because their ping is 150? You think reducing 40%s ping will suddenly make them all play mages?
I pvp on atl on a mage at 150ping and Crunch (America's Finest) is from the us and pvps on europa on mage at 170+.
Stop whining.
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Then what's the problem in moving the server more centralized?Im pretty confident that my 40 Ping doesn't compare to that of other players I can regularly destroy in PvP. There isn't a player on Europa who can hold their own vs me outside of my guild. Gandalf claims to ping badly as does the Russians yet most of them are the fastest players on the shard.
My only advantage over my competitors I have on Europa is that im smarter and better at the game than they are. That said, i've played it twice as long as most people on Europa so i'd expect to be that much better than you are.
You can't in all honesty say that it wouldn't have any lag. Since none of us have a copy of the actual data on performance. I'd also be wary of that 300 MBit pipe on that server, 1 gigabit or better is the way to go and honestly just as affordable these days.A decent server in France wouldn't cost more than 60 $ per month....
for example with this one we could have a decent server with 1000 players online without having any lags.... View attachment 45969
Don't tell me EA can't afford 60$ per month...
Whats the problem with it staying where it is? I already said I and others PvP on other shards with a ping disadvantage and manage fine on multiple templates? Why can't the complaining players just deal with it like we have to? Atlantic is the "Main" US Shard, you don't see anyone asking for it to be centralised so the US playerbase can have a more evenly spread ping.Then what's the problem in moving the server more centralized?
The drachs server is now located in Ireland also (the same location as Europa), this is why everyone hasn't moved to drachs.Whats the problem with it staying where it is? I already said I and others PvP on other shards with a ping disadvantage and manage fine on multiple templates? Why can't the complaining players just deal with it like we have to? Atlantic is the "Main" US Shard, you don't see anyone asking for it to be centralised so the US playerbase can have a more evenly spread ping.
Isn't Drach supposed to be the more Europe based shard? Its not in Ireland iirc? Go play Drachs?[It'd suit the complainers pvp skill level much more too and they wouldn't have any excuses, which im sure they want]
Again though, we need to understand this, all the people i've seen confirm this is the case are mostly the fastest players on Europa, its common knowledge Gandalf is literally the fastest player on Europa. Second is Hsai or Redmen. I'd say they're all pretty close in speed, all use EC, except, Gandalf = Lebanon, Redmen = Russia and Hsai(the slowest of the 3 id say, despite a ridiculous PC and EC) = England.
What surprises me about this, Lebanon, and the majority of Russia aren't even in Europe. Then again Europe isn't really that large, as far as Continents go, it's roughly the size of Canada, which puzzles me as to why people are having such horrible ping times. When you think about it, nothing in Europe is really that far apart.Again though, we need to understand this, all the people i've seen confirm this is the case are mostly the fastest players on Europa, its common knowledge Gandalf is literally the fastest player on Europa. Second is Hsai or Redmen. I'd say they're all pretty close in speed, all use EC, except, Gandalf = Lebanon, Redmen = Russia and Hsai(the slowest of the 3 id say, despite a ridiculous PC and EC) = England.
If you're going to decide Europa's location based on the quality of Whiskey, they'd have to move it to the US.germany has the best beer in europe but ireland has the best whiskey.
given the above data this truly is a difficult argument to pick a side on.
i would leave europa where its at and move drach over to germany. this way everyone will continue to complain the same amount they are now, however there will be equal representation of alcohol for both servers. this is the only logical answer to solving this dilemma.
Well alot of people seem to have a problem to compete with the ping disadvantage, you dont. Server being more centralized = less ping disadvantages. So the only logic way would be moving the servers more to central Europe.Whats the problem with it staying where it is? I already said I and others PvP on other shards with a ping disadvantage and manage fine on multiple templates? Why can't the complaining players just deal with it like we have to? Atlantic is the "Main" US Shard, you don't see anyone asking for it to be centralised so the US playerbase can have a more evenly spread ping.
Isn't Drach supposed to be the more Europe based shard? Its not in Ireland iirc? Go play Drachs?[It'd suit the complainers pvp skill level much more too and they wouldn't have any excuses, which im sure they want]
Again though, we need to understand this, all the people i've seen confirm this is the case are mostly the fastest players on Europa, its common knowledge Gandalf is literally the fastest player on Europa. Second is Hsai or Redmen. I'd say they're all pretty close in speed, all use EC, except, Gandalf = Lebanon, Redmen = Russia and Hsai(the slowest of the 3 id say, despite a ridiculous PC and EC) = England.
i said "in europe."If you're going to decide Europa's location based on the quality of Whiskey, they'd have to move it to the US.
So, your reason for not wanting to move the server is because although it will benefit most people, you personally would lose out?No ISP problems? I dont see how your ISP isn't a factor? I used to ping 12 pre aos on ISDN which was what 500kbps? i currently have 200meg and ping 40. ISP has to be a factor?
Of course this effects me... by moving the server to the centre of Europe i then have to endure a worse ping. Why are any of you more important than the people who live near its current location? If you centralised it... someone will get shafted and someone else will benefit from it. In which case it should just be left alone as there is no solution that makes everyone happy.
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"what about the masses of players that are not on stratics."Most people as in the group complaining about it on this thread... what about the masses of players that are not on stratics? And are the people complaining not doing exactly the same as that anyway? Why is it alright for everyone else to complain about losing out but not me?
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What does it matter? Theres more than enough players that would be against a server move that easily outweighs the 10 or so here that are for one."what about the masses of players that are not on stratics."
Mother of flower !I did not know Europa had more than 100 players ....
Epi YOU SHALL NOT PASS!Europa player here
i ping 20 to EU and 80 to ATL.
I winz.
@Lord Gandalf and his 3rd world country ISP.
Naah, there is no way im giving up my bunker, ill sell a few camels and buy myself a castle in the UK instead@Lord Gandalf I think the only option left for you is to sell your 1 million Villa and move to the UK lolz
Demonstrating why I, as a Europa player only use the Help channel. It is also interesting that last Tuesday the OP put up the same thread on the Europa forum asking for feedback about it. Now with his estimate that 90% of Europa players are in favour I wonder why the total number of interested parties replying is hmmm, let me see, er, Oh yes! NONE.Great Europa General Chat finally arrived at stratics.....
User1 (on EC) pinging 120 can potentially outrun User2 (on 2d) pinging 10 while running over gravestones, as movement redirection comes in his favor as well.I'd like to chime in with a response to these points.
- He said 9, but I won't split hairs. I'm pretty sure if you're that hung up on it, Baggi can take a screenshot for you. Might be wise to have evidence to disprove the claim before you insult someone you know nothing about.
- I ping 12ms regularly, and I have multiple videos of you outrunning me in a straight line. Granted, this is probably a benefit of EC that outweighs the absolutely horrible graphics, but the point still remains that you are indeed faster than a player based in London with a pretty upmarket PC and a consistent ISP.
- He didn't generalize, he pointed out that there are people who either don't read this forum or can't be bothered to take the time to refute claims you've made when we all know you are impervious to logic.
- We're all guilty of a little trash talk now and again, you included. Get down off that high horse buddy.
To finish, I'd like to say that when I was in PRO+, (Thank god that ordeal's over) I heard you complain about lag maybe once or twice. This during a span of about 4 or 5 months. During that time you played your Hyperion character mostly, and seemed to do fine. When Holy Fist emerged as an overpowered skill, you weren't complaining about ping, but now that it's been (slightly) nerfed, you're suddenly up in arms about server locations and what not. Suspicious.
/end rant.
Zap.
None of us are naive Mervyn. If there's any altruistic motive to Gandalf's request, it is purely by accident I assure you.I don't see what the OP's specific ping has to do with the thread. He wants to move the server to central Europe to benefit the majority of players on Europa. I ping 20ms, i also cannot keep up with the OP as he uses EC, this is a separate issue to the thread.
We don't have to come up with an argument against moving, that's proving a negative which is impossible. Since you posted the request, you're the one who's obliged to persuade us. You've failed in that regard.User1 (on EC) pinging 120 can potentially outrun User2 (on 2d) pinging 10 while running over gravestones, as movement redirection comes in his favor as well.
But am i obliged to play on EC client to deal with the lag? Mmmm
Anyways, now stop wasting my time with the second part of ur post (i know ur all pissed coz i posted that video wrecking u all ), and focus on finding a good argument why drach and europa should stay in the same location.
Thank you
I don't understand this post... the Russians do just fine. Theres plenty of them and they're fast. We definitely consider them much more competitive than PRO guild(Who are mostly UK BASED)... is that ping or are they better?You can't grasp the idea that I wouldn't mind having a slightly higher ping if it means that the russians etc could better compete with us in the uk?
Wtfast is legal, yesAre programs like WTFast and the such legal?