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everyone leans one way or another. its not a life changing decision, i think someone can pick without too much thought
i thought about adding it, but for simplicity and more accurate overall results i decided not too. if you absolutely cant decide which one you prefer, dont vote.
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if you dont know the difference, then you probably shouldnt vote in the poll : )Any pics to see the difference? or should I say
I liked the ones that were a middle term between old and new, that got "fixed" in the publish much better than both old and new.
The new border and ankh highlights are just plain ugly and clash too much with whatever colour you dye them.
The new border and ankh highlights are just plain ugly and clash too much with whatever colour you dye them.
As someone who likes the new look, here is why:
1. The art is sharper to me. A step in the right direction to more high res graphics, even if it's only a small step.
2. I have always hated the "dipped in paint" look of things when you dye them. Why on earth did we have to dye the anhk and the pages of the runebooks in the first place? Embellishments should always retain thier original hue when an item is dyed. The new runebooks are a step in the right direction for art that applies that methodology.
A couple things I will say about the comments of those who dislike them.
1. Change is hard. Yes after 17 years we had gotten used to the runebook art, but I still think it was sloppy art.
2. IMO, it was not the symbol, and to a lesser degree the gold edge, that made the colors harder to distinguish in the rune library... It is that the pages between the covers no longer change color.
3. I will say that the hue does seem to be a little darker. This is a change I am not so much in favor of. We have seen this issue crop up with other new art as well... Where the base hue of the item skews the color of the dye. Hawkwinds robe is an example going the other way... All the colors come out lighter than they should. I want a dark red robe, but no matter what color I use, it looks more pink. This is something that should be addressed across the board.
1. The art is sharper to me. A step in the right direction to more high res graphics, even if it's only a small step.
2. I have always hated the "dipped in paint" look of things when you dye them. Why on earth did we have to dye the anhk and the pages of the runebooks in the first place? Embellishments should always retain thier original hue when an item is dyed. The new runebooks are a step in the right direction for art that applies that methodology.
A couple things I will say about the comments of those who dislike them.
1. Change is hard. Yes after 17 years we had gotten used to the runebook art, but I still think it was sloppy art.
2. IMO, it was not the symbol, and to a lesser degree the gold edge, that made the colors harder to distinguish in the rune library... It is that the pages between the covers no longer change color.
3. I will say that the hue does seem to be a little darker. This is a change I am not so much in favor of. We have seen this issue crop up with other new art as well... Where the base hue of the item skews the color of the dye. Hawkwinds robe is an example going the other way... All the colors come out lighter than they should. I want a dark red robe, but no matter what color I use, it looks more pink. This is something that should be addressed across the board.
i think its the bright yellow that bothers people. having the same icon on all the books, in the brightest color makes them hard to differentiate. if the color of the ahnk was not the first thing that catches the eye (a dimmer hue) or was the same color as main book, it would be eaiser to find a book at a glance.
the corners all being the same, bright color also make it extremely difficult to tell them apart when arranged in pack efficiently, or when stacked in a rune library.
agree with the pages issue, this also contributes to the scattered look.
i like the "look" of a single new one too, if its one runebook by itself and i dont have to use them daily. but when trying to use them efficiently the different look is inferior in visual functionality.
i voted original. the bright yellow ankh & edging are garish and overpower the dyed books.
Had they not added the gold they would be acceptable IMO
I still maintain they didn't make 'new' art, they simply corrected the partial hueing (which is what the publish notes said had been done). On the old books the gold overlaid the whole book, thus lightening the base colour. Fixing the partial hue so that it only affected the parts it was meant to, ie the corner and ankh symbol, revealed the true base colour. This was somewhat darker than we had been used to.
I'm rather hoping that this means 'partial hueing' is now more possible than it used to be and we can perhaps get coloured plants with green leaves instead of leaves the same colour as the flowers. (fingers crossed!!)
I haven't voted on the poll, because to be honest, I don't have a problem with the runebooks, either way.
I'm rather hoping that this means 'partial hueing' is now more possible than it used to be and we can perhaps get coloured plants with green leaves instead of leaves the same colour as the flowers. (fingers crossed!!)
I haven't voted on the poll, because to be honest, I don't have a problem with the runebooks, either way.
I prefer the original color, if you remove a rune to remark it, sometimes it appears on top of the another runebook in your pack and it blends in perfectly with the rune on the cover of the book.
I do think the newer books look better slightly, but in all honesty, They should be improving the look of what everyone can see, not something that may or may not be hidden in someones backpack.
Either way, it's not game-changing for me, I'll be transitioning to the Runic Atlas anyway, just to condense space in my pack 3x runebooks in one slightly larger book? it's worth.
I do think the newer books look better slightly, but in all honesty, They should be improving the look of what everyone can see, not something that may or may not be hidden in someones backpack.
Either way, it's not game-changing for me, I'll be transitioning to the Runic Atlas anyway, just to condense space in my pack 3x runebooks in one slightly larger book? it's worth.
of course it wont. stratics is a very small percentage of UOs population. (i dont see what that has to do with pvp/tram/fel tho, id say stratics actually has a higher percentage of pvpers represented than non-pvp players. Pvers seem to be about 10 to 15 percent of the games overall pop, just recognizing the names here id say stratics is pretty representive of that number.
also the japanese / korean / taiwanese populations are mostly not represented, and they comprose about 35% of UOs overall population.
as for the not caring / not voting, in any business where a change is made that people "dont care" about, it can be equated with loss of revenue, because resources were invested in something with no effect.
Yes, but when have you know UO players, especially the ones vocal enough to post here, to let anything go?
Yes. That's why I made my post
yes and the quote came from the Sakura meet and greet. apparently the asian UO population isn't happy with the change either.
how else do you effect a change unless you express your opinion?
At some point expressing your opinion just turns into shouting at the rain. UO players are definitely known to do both.
New ones are better, much less blurry, you can actually see the ankh.
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I think the darker color is the biggest issue. In the right side, of the image below, I've taken the old books and added the gold corners and ankh + the uncolored pages*.
The colors there, are still fairly easy to distinguish. I think that would be a great compromise.
* I've corrected the tiny error they've made; the pixel at the far right is not a part of the pages.
Ok I am not getting it, the only runebook color that even remotely looked like a spell book were one dyed with the default.
I'm really not sure what it is about the Stratics Forums that attracts so many unsavoury characters, I don't remember having to tick a box to confirm i'm a dbag when joining stratics, perhaps it's from a long history of poor admins who would ban anyone who argues with their carebear playstyle and so over time the normal people have dropped off these forums.
It being good Friday, Stratics forums users would vote for Barabbas.
Case in point: Coca-Cola changes its flavor in the early 80's. They lost market share to Pepsi.
The problem with polling Stratics players is that it only represents the smallest portion of the player base... very few Asian players come here... and less and less of the newer players come here.... fact is most the people who still come to Stratics are old schoolers... and when you poll them most of them don't want the game to change in the slightest from how it was in 1997...
I am fine with positive change, change just for the sake of change that improves nothing or all too often makes things worse.......... that is not progress.
But it improved the look of the thing and it doesn't look muddy anymore.
Poll isn't gonna change anything, and I'm with Petra on this as the rune book don't matter much to me - just gotta go re-dye the library I was working on to more contrasting colors.
What matters is that since they are doing partial-hues on items, makes me wonder what else will change....
Plants I probably won't mind, but there are so many things that will change and that kinda concerns me.
My thinking is that there are so many other things within the game that need overhauling. I know we've been screaming for "better art" for years (keep in mind, art is VERY SUBJECTIVE, the hullaballoo over the runebooks is proof) - but I'd rather some core things be overhauled first....
1 - pets, taming and vet
2 - VvV
3 - All Virtue Systems
4 - How about some Anti-Virtue Systems? (seeking a balance here)
What matters is that since they are doing partial-hues on items, makes me wonder what else will change....
Plants I probably won't mind, but there are so many things that will change and that kinda concerns me.
My thinking is that there are so many other things within the game that need overhauling. I know we've been screaming for "better art" for years (keep in mind, art is VERY SUBJECTIVE, the hullaballoo over the runebooks is proof) - but I'd rather some core things be overhauled first....
1 - pets, taming and vet
2 - VvV
3 - All Virtue Systems
4 - How about some Anti-Virtue Systems? (seeking a balance here)
