A blessing during those early years for sure. Crafting was an absolute *Pancakes* without it before they updated those tool windows.
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everyone is not rich[/QUOTE]
You have probably spent more at McDonald's in a day.
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Maybe if you paid for fewer accounts, or let one lapse, you could afford UOA? (Below).
Just would like to see some new content added. I'll still be paying for my 10 accounts regardless of what they do.
Or perhaps no other programs would be approved and the "Cheater"-label would still apply...
We were comparing it to $10, not $1200.(excluding Aran)Just because I have 10 accounts doesn't mean I spend 1200 a year on MMO
I think your missing the point it's not the $10 it's whats you get in return for the $10 which is a big heaping pile of garbage. How many copies of UOA have been sold, love to see that number. Tugsoft has made millions and millions of dollars on a sub par program that half way works while FREE programs exist that insanely better. I will not discuss this topic further but just let's agree that I am right and you are wrong
They leashed him it could of been wayyy better. They could of let the current one in circulation connect to the server and monitor its functions like so many free shards do..but hey incompetence is vital amongst upper management. Instead it's a cheat machine for the evil.
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You could argue the value since it's subjective to use, and in your case, comparatively against other "Unapproved" programs.I think your missing the point it's not the $10 it's whats you get in return for the $10 which is a big heaping pile of garbage. How many copies of UOA have been sold, love to see that number. Tugsoft has made millions and millions of dollars on a sub par program that half way works while FREE programs exist that insanely better. I will not discuss this topic further but just let's agree that I am right and you are wrong
Although, this is going back to $10 and your response being "we're not all rich" wasn't it?
So I didn't really miss the point, I was simply discussing your response.
Also since you do have 10 accounts and if you're not keeping them open monthly have probably spent 13.99 for something you aren't using all the time.
It's hard to go along with your opinion when you're judgement of value differs.
The FREE programs are likely illegal to use with the game because they allow illegal functions, which means anyone who uses them is a lowlife cheater.
You want to cheat in the game you play, go play another game.
I don't entirely agree. I believe one of the reasons the CC has never received a proper UI/Functionality overhaul is because the Devs could just go "why bother implementing that - they can just use UOA!"
I also don't think players should have to pay extra to a third party for in-game functionality either especially when there is already a subscription fee. But that's my opinion.
ive always wondered why uo didn't have their own uoa type program. I never thought I would see a business where way more of the players wanted the cc over than ec but they make ec with pincos, so much better that makes certain activities extremely unfair. when people think things are unfair, some will quit, others will cheat and some will try to get devs to change things.
I think about a new player, they pay for account, then have to pay all this extra money for upgrades. then they find out another $10 for uoa. how many of us just starting with uo would really pay all this money. I know I wouldn't. in general people want things to be fair. just my opinion.
I think about a new player, they pay for account, then have to pay all this extra money for upgrades. then they find out another $10 for uoa. how many of us just starting with uo would really pay all this money. I know I wouldn't. in general people want things to be fair. just my opinion.
100% Agree.
Also +1 Love my UOAssist, i remember the day I got it for the first time. Completed UO for me as a game, especially for PvP.
Really??
you just insulted 75%+ percent of the Uo population, How dare ye!
Bottom 75%
I'm a man with a strong sense of honor, what more really needs to be said. You've laid claim to the behavior & let the world know you do it, so you are what you are.
I guess I could lie about it, whats more honorable?
Other games call it user interface and deliver it right along with the game code. Developers get paid for it from the money the players pay for the game. Its silly on how many levels they let the money float to third parties. And BS isn't going to do a single thing about it.
My only gripe with UOAssist is that we still can't open more than one instance of it in 2016. I have two accounts with Uoassist but only 1pc. I managed to get it to open twice once having a right play with things i'd read on the net but it was hassle and i can't remember exactly how i did it, what id like is to be able to open two instances of it so i don't feel like im wasting my money on the second account.
This is another case where the EC rules.... I can have as many accounts as I want open and all of them can use Pinco's equally.... since it's sort of built into the client.
I haven't tried this but what about installing UOA a 2nd time but change the directory name. That way you would have two separate installs... Idk I'd try that
I tried to download this today on a new computer. The website is up, but the link to download the UOAssist file is coming up with a page not found error.
Also, where is everyone getting the $10 pricetag? It's $15 for each account, although there is a supposed discount for registering multiple accounts.
Also, where is everyone getting the $10 pricetag? It's $15 for each account, although there is a supposed discount for registering multiple accounts.
Doesn't work
Not all! I am not depending on Assist, nor on other tools. Playing UO in CC with my bare hands. Never used anything else than CC. Even sailing only with my mouse, no carto or whatever. But I respect the efforts those people invested for developing their tools.
I know a lot can be done in CC now without UO Assist, it's not a must as it was in the past. Just take crafting, now you can craft x numbers or max of something. In the past, I used UOA for that but not now.
A lot other stuff are added to the CC client now.
I do still use it for PvP/PvM but even here some may be added to the client. I do still use it to make bolt of clothes from wool and to craft potions and scrolls, making maybe 10 potions, 2 scroll, getting mana up while making scrolls.
I got my first UO Assist key, when it still was considered an illegale tools. I know it was wrong but it was a great help both to mining, crafting and to PvP/PvM.
There was years, where i would not play if UO Assist was down, now I do play, but I do not go out killing stuff (monsters)
A lot other stuff are added to the CC client now.
I do still use it for PvP/PvM but even here some may be added to the client. I do still use it to make bolt of clothes from wool and to craft potions and scrolls, making maybe 10 potions, 2 scroll, getting mana up while making scrolls.
I got my first UO Assist key, when it still was considered an illegale tools. I know it was wrong but it was a great help both to mining, crafting and to PvP/PvM.
There was years, where i would not play if UO Assist was down, now I do play, but I do not go out killing stuff (monsters)
I contact the owner and see about an update to the download and as far as the $15, maybe the price has gone up. As far as a discount for registering multiple accounts, I read it as if you register multiple first time accounts and I will come back with any information I hear if one can get a discount for ordering a 2nd key after already having one.
$15 is not much, even when I may had paid for 10+ accounts over the years. I doubt Tug expected to have to support UO Assist for 20 years, when he first made the tools. I don't know how many new keys he sell a year now, but I doubt he make much money from it.
I also doubt there is much to be made either. Maybe at first, if was a nice little source of income but now days, I'm sure it's nothing.
I guess, I have simply been to stupid to program UOA. But I must admit: I am a bit proud of having achieved everything with my own, arthritic claws
It's been well worth the investment for myself.
It would be nice if Broadsword would let Tug upgrade UOA to allow it to do the same things that Pincos does. I'm not sure if Tug would be interested in doing so in the first place, but would be nice.
It would be nice if Broadsword would let Tug upgrade UOA to allow it to do the same things that Pincos does. I'm not sure if Tug would be interested in doing so in the first place, but would be nice.
But now, I believe the EC client allow way more "cheating/easy way" than UOA ever did so I don't feel bad about using it.
And I am too stupid to progam that, too ;-)
What you may consider the easy way, Freja, I might regard as simply a contemporary user interface, common to most games. I'll grant you that you can set up skill building macros in the EC...and you can do it in the CC but it's only considered cheating if it's unattended.
We in the EC cannot set up auto-heal programs. We cannot create complex behavior scripts that can run for hours or days unattended. Nor can we create coordinated multibox behavior scripts allowing you to solo tough encounters, such as the roof, with multiple automated characters. These are just a few things I know CC users with add-ons are doing as I type this.
This is not rumor or misapprehension on my part. I'm hearing people do it and telling me how they're doing it in voice servers as they're doing it.
I know, but I never did and it was not done with UO Assist
Nor would I EVER suggest you'd do that sort of thing, Freja, or anybody on Siege for that matter. When a scripter is detected there you have an almost shard-wide posse assembled instantly to find and kill the scripter.I know, but I never did and it was not done with UO Assist
My point is that these sort of sophisticated automation efforts can't happen on the EC. They can on the CC due to its age and the inexperience of its creators.
The founder of Kesmai, Kelton Flinn, whose online games first appeared on commercial online networks in '84, said "The client is in the hands of the enemy." There is no way the developers of Ultima Online could have imagined or conceived the tactics and capabilities of that enemy. But 18+ years on and the CC remains nearly indefensible against myriad enemies, alas.
I'm sorry I have stretched the parameters of this topic so. It's just I strongly feel this game needs a fresh client above all things. It should display UO in the manner you prefer of course. As I've said before, original UO will one day be regarded as a genuine work of art. But you should be able to just load and play an online game without having that act be just the first of multiple steps needed to play it.
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