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If you really add up all the down time, reverts, bugs, etc THEY are getting away with murder! The three months of free ToL was to try and stem an ever increasing departure of players for greener fields.
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Would An Annual RtB Bring Back Players?
- Thread starter TheScoundrelRico
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*sigh*
marketing is not just about stupid sales at the origin store. marketing is about communication - both good and bad.
so... Broadsword can have MARKETING about the GAME and not so much about the store.
Broadsword can do A LOT with marketing.... they don't need to have EA's blessing to start campaigns on whatever they want.
Some examples of what would be positive marketing fo---
hold on, I am an out of work marketer/webdeveloper/publisher. I'm not gonna do that.
*shuffles back to job boards*
marketing is not just about stupid sales at the origin store. marketing is about communication - both good and bad.
so... Broadsword can have MARKETING about the GAME and not so much about the store.
Broadsword can do A LOT with marketing.... they don't need to have EA's blessing to start campaigns on whatever they want.
Some examples of what would be positive marketing fo---
hold on, I am an out of work marketer/webdeveloper/publisher. I'm not gonna do that.
*shuffles back to job boards*
Well on that note of "greener pastures"...
99% of the returning players I myself have met, helped restart UO said just about all the games they left for...and mind you some were big titles..
were disappointing. 3 months after one game that nearly all had gone to play... all said almost verbatim that the game lacked big time the freedom of UO. Freedom....hmmm when they elaborated the meaning for I understood.
UO gives us so much for so little.. even at paying for the max cost 12.99 per month for 1 account.
The average new game out cost you a bloody fortune in start up(I have heard 50 to 85$)...
Then they add in the extras that are put under your nose at every turn...that cost cash.....
Yes UO has some of the same in way of the origin store but not something you cant live without, or even buy with gold in game!
Not so with the "new games" its all owner only kind of stuff.
I can stop mid way in most things I am doing in game on UO and come back and nearly pick back up and continue (dungeon/champs being the exception in this) even months later!
Outside of feeding fish, or plants gardening pretty much you can let the account be for that 13$ and walk off for a vacation and it will still be there fresh and waiting for you.... going to the movies for 2 to 3 hours cost you what....... lets see. tickets can run up the scale to from mattenees run 6$ to 10$ and main rush time can go 12 to 24$ and that's just for a single ticket!
Now add in that bucket of popcorn(heavy butter) 9$, a tall soda 5$, add in your milk duds.. 5$
So for 3 hours you spent at max mind you 42$ to watch a movie... at least you spent 25$.
So you tell me which is the better buy....for that movie for 1 mind you (x2 if a couple go) you can nearly pay for 6 months of UO!
While I am not discouraging you from the movies ... I am pointing out the very low cost of our game and the entertainment it offers you at your fast paced life. Play when you want or can its all safe to go do your thing... UO will be there when you get back.
99% of the returning players I myself have met, helped restart UO said just about all the games they left for...and mind you some were big titles..
were disappointing. 3 months after one game that nearly all had gone to play... all said almost verbatim that the game lacked big time the freedom of UO. Freedom....hmmm when they elaborated the meaning for I understood.
UO gives us so much for so little.. even at paying for the max cost 12.99 per month for 1 account.
The average new game out cost you a bloody fortune in start up(I have heard 50 to 85$)...
Then they add in the extras that are put under your nose at every turn...that cost cash.....
Yes UO has some of the same in way of the origin store but not something you cant live without, or even buy with gold in game!
Not so with the "new games" its all owner only kind of stuff.
I can stop mid way in most things I am doing in game on UO and come back and nearly pick back up and continue (dungeon/champs being the exception in this) even months later!
Outside of feeding fish, or plants gardening pretty much you can let the account be for that 13$ and walk off for a vacation and it will still be there fresh and waiting for you.... going to the movies for 2 to 3 hours cost you what....... lets see. tickets can run up the scale to from mattenees run 6$ to 10$ and main rush time can go 12 to 24$ and that's just for a single ticket!
Now add in that bucket of popcorn(heavy butter) 9$, a tall soda 5$, add in your milk duds.. 5$
So for 3 hours you spent at max mind you 42$ to watch a movie... at least you spent 25$.
So you tell me which is the better buy....for that movie for 1 mind you (x2 if a couple go) you can nearly pay for 6 months of UO!
While I am not discouraging you from the movies ... I am pointing out the very low cost of our game and the entertainment it offers you at your fast paced life. Play when you want or can its all safe to go do your thing... UO will be there when you get back.
You had me at "Heavy Butter"!!!!! It's not good popcorn unless you need extra napkins to absorb the butter that soaks through the container!
I played from 1999 to 2014, and it would take a lot more than a RTB for me to return. if there was better rendered graphics and a reason to explore the world new lands dungeons that are not static where anything could happen, then I may be enticed into coming back
Seriously?
There are tons of games you can buy at every steam/GOG sale for less than 5$, which can keep you entertained for one or two months, maybe even more depending on the game. If I compare that to UO, 12.99 per month does sound quite expensive...
Besides, if you watch a movie, you get a cool story/plot (at least that's why I go to the movies, sure sometimes it can be a little bit disappointing in that regard, but most of the time I pick the right one and can't complain). Same for a good single player game (i.e. KotoR 1... awesome, or Bioshock Infinite, jaw dropping plot twists, simply awesome). How many hours of new story/plot does UO offer per month?
Thrakkar
Your a game transient player.
While UO has the same flaws I see in quite a few of the other games.
Yes we don't have the newest graphics or a plot that makes one jump up and grab a sword to defend the lands..
I have played UO for near 20 years.. I am still here.
While the other games over the years have come and gone..
EQ, WOW, EVE, SWG.... this is but a handful I have played over the years.
Do I play them now?
No *
*(I do bounce in wow when I feel like it)
You mentioned Steam... well you spend for a few games in there ..yes 5$ per is cheap and I can see the variety might keep your interest for a bit.
But how many a month do you pay for?
How long do you play one before its replaced with a fresh new game?
This thread is about RtB... and how and why we don't have it every year as a annual event...
While it sounds great to have a way friends can return to play and perhaps catch the UO bug again... it use to make a lot of problems too.
Perhaps with all the new restrictions it might fly...
pose it to the Dark Lady and see
Your a game transient player.
While UO has the same flaws I see in quite a few of the other games.
Yes we don't have the newest graphics or a plot that makes one jump up and grab a sword to defend the lands..
I have played UO for near 20 years.. I am still here.
While the other games over the years have come and gone..
EQ, WOW, EVE, SWG.... this is but a handful I have played over the years.
Do I play them now?
No *
*(I do bounce in wow when I feel like it)
You mentioned Steam... well you spend for a few games in there ..yes 5$ per is cheap and I can see the variety might keep your interest for a bit.
But how many a month do you pay for?
How long do you play one before its replaced with a fresh new game?
This thread is about RtB... and how and why we don't have it every year as a annual event...
While it sounds great to have a way friends can return to play and perhaps catch the UO bug again... it use to make a lot of problems too.
Perhaps with all the new restrictions it might fly...
pose it to the Dark Lady and see
On average it takes me 1-2 months to finish a game and then pick the next one. That's let's say 10$ for 3 months.
Of course there are other games which keep me playing longer, even up to 3-4 months, because they're so awesome; like all the Souls games (Demon Souls, Dark Souls 1 & 2, Bloodborne; to be fair I have to admit, that I buy such kind of games at release, first because I can't wait xD and second to support the developers. But the number games I buy at release has declined dramatically over the years...)
TBH, personally I think RtB isn't a good way to bring back lots of players. People usually quit for a reason, and that reason doesn't change, just because you get a free month (with severe restrictions). At least that's my take on it.
But do I like RtB? Sure, I can save €11,50 and still can check back. But it doesn't give me an incentive to subscribe...
It may not change, but if someone plays something else for 6 -11 months and is disappointed with those games, they may just say **** it, it's worth the time to go back to a game I used to enjoy...since it's free...la
I was just wondering, do they still play?
Gameboy I can answer that...
UO has things others don't.. and doesn't have other things the pool of games do and drive you nuts.
There is also the fact in uo you can drop what your doing for a week or two and come back and its still there.
UO has things others don't.. and doesn't have other things the pool of games do and drive you nuts.
There is also the fact in uo you can drop what your doing for a week or two and come back and its still there.
People leave for a reason. Graphics, small population, PvP, PvE, PvX, game changes, subscription, other games, life changes, and for many other reasons.
Now I have paid much attention to some posts in this thread and other threads on Stratics that I keep seeing come up. If UO has all these unique qualities that other games don't have even though they may not appeal graphic or game mechanism wise to the new gen population, then why is there always a discussion how the game has a small population and how to fix it?
These are the questions that should always be asked.
1) Is the graphics just so outdated?
2) Is the subscription fee the problem?
3) Is the lack of population hurting UO?
4) Is the game just to complicated for a new player?
5) Is the lack of advertising not helping?
6) Does PvE need a total revamp?
7) Does PvP need a total revamp?
8) Is it just to time consuming to train a character to be able to really play?
9) Is some of the hostility in general chat and shard communities just to much for a new player or returning player?
10) Lack of Role Playing features?
11) Is the game just to much item based anymore?
12) Is it to o many complicated templates and not enough new information on what works and not works?
13) In todays fast paced world people just want to log in and play so is that a reason?
14) Should we be more supportive to the small dev team and understand it takes longer for fixes and additions then asking wtf they are and why haven't you answered my post about my great new item addition I want now?
I remember my first UO experience. People got together, played together, traded and sold items together. Yes the game was more simple at that time. You could just go to any vendor buy armor and weps you needed. You could craft items and gather resources. You organized hunts and played with others using team tactics to play dungeons. It was easy to know what you needed versus mobs like if you needed a silver wep to kill liches. Players depended on playing with others at that time. You had a community that worked with each other more back then.
Now the game is nothing like that anymore when everybody can just make a sammy and solo most thing. Mobs that was hard is easy now and they made new mobs to hard. Most pets for tamers are useless anymore except GD. When you can solo most things why play with others? Resource gathering is a joke when its scripted anymore. Distrust in the community with other guilds and scammers has broken a system of the community which is hard to fix when they cant trust each other.
Petty things have taken over the game and I want this and this and this and this added to the game. Where is the fun and excitement when your logging in to hope after the 1000 time of doing a spawn to get that scroll or new item and you haven't gotten it yet while some guy boasts he has 12 from only doing the same spawn 20 times. The RNG is fixed or broken or your just one unlucky player. Most players have a better chance at getting struck by lightning underwater while trying to ride a bike then get that stupid item you have tried for months.
One last thing. Its not about the cost of movie, or going out to dinner. or even a pizza. Those comments drive me up the wall. If any person has to give up a luxury (even if it is only a one time month deal for them to do something outside in real life) so they can just play a game for a month should not be playing any MMO that is costing them money. I for one would never insult their financial situation by telling them to give up that one luxury in the real world to support a game that I love playing so they can contribute to my addiction and keep the game funded. I would find ways to contribute more by my own financials means if I am so worried about the games future. Buy more items from the store if I have to and if I didn't need them then donate it to a player event as a prize. There are many ways to support this game from active players in many ways then asking others to sacrifice their means if you have a better financial situation then others. Real life comes first before any pixel crack.
Now I have paid much attention to some posts in this thread and other threads on Stratics that I keep seeing come up. If UO has all these unique qualities that other games don't have even though they may not appeal graphic or game mechanism wise to the new gen population, then why is there always a discussion how the game has a small population and how to fix it?
These are the questions that should always be asked.
1) Is the graphics just so outdated?
2) Is the subscription fee the problem?
3) Is the lack of population hurting UO?
4) Is the game just to complicated for a new player?
5) Is the lack of advertising not helping?
6) Does PvE need a total revamp?
7) Does PvP need a total revamp?
8) Is it just to time consuming to train a character to be able to really play?
9) Is some of the hostility in general chat and shard communities just to much for a new player or returning player?
10) Lack of Role Playing features?
11) Is the game just to much item based anymore?
12) Is it to o many complicated templates and not enough new information on what works and not works?
13) In todays fast paced world people just want to log in and play so is that a reason?
14) Should we be more supportive to the small dev team and understand it takes longer for fixes and additions then asking wtf they are and why haven't you answered my post about my great new item addition I want now?
I remember my first UO experience. People got together, played together, traded and sold items together. Yes the game was more simple at that time. You could just go to any vendor buy armor and weps you needed. You could craft items and gather resources. You organized hunts and played with others using team tactics to play dungeons. It was easy to know what you needed versus mobs like if you needed a silver wep to kill liches. Players depended on playing with others at that time. You had a community that worked with each other more back then.
Now the game is nothing like that anymore when everybody can just make a sammy and solo most thing. Mobs that was hard is easy now and they made new mobs to hard. Most pets for tamers are useless anymore except GD. When you can solo most things why play with others? Resource gathering is a joke when its scripted anymore. Distrust in the community with other guilds and scammers has broken a system of the community which is hard to fix when they cant trust each other.
Petty things have taken over the game and I want this and this and this and this added to the game. Where is the fun and excitement when your logging in to hope after the 1000 time of doing a spawn to get that scroll or new item and you haven't gotten it yet while some guy boasts he has 12 from only doing the same spawn 20 times. The RNG is fixed or broken or your just one unlucky player. Most players have a better chance at getting struck by lightning underwater while trying to ride a bike then get that stupid item you have tried for months.
One last thing. Its not about the cost of movie, or going out to dinner. or even a pizza. Those comments drive me up the wall. If any person has to give up a luxury (even if it is only a one time month deal for them to do something outside in real life) so they can just play a game for a month should not be playing any MMO that is costing them money. I for one would never insult their financial situation by telling them to give up that one luxury in the real world to support a game that I love playing so they can contribute to my addiction and keep the game funded. I would find ways to contribute more by my own financials means if I am so worried about the games future. Buy more items from the store if I have to and if I didn't need them then donate it to a player event as a prize. There are many ways to support this game from active players in many ways then asking others to sacrifice their means if you have a better financial situation then others. Real life comes first before any pixel crack.
And in UO, you won't be levels behind your friends because of a lost week.
Yup!
Ok I missed a opening.. big deal in UO? No
Easy to make up and be right there with my friends.
Ok I missed a opening.. big deal in UO? No
Easy to make up and be right there with my friends.
I like GW2 downlevelling so a player levels above you can fight with you.
In UO as a lowlevel char you cannot even gain some skills anymore if the monster is too highlevel
In UO as a lowlevel char you cannot even gain some skills anymore if the monster is too highlevel
No! 2 ftp servers would
PvM server
Consensual pvp for RP purposes or people who just want pvp double drops
and a PvP server with no trammel facets at all. Remove Tram/Illsh/Malas/Ter Mur/Eodon completely and you'll steal 80% of free shard players
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PvM server
Consensual pvp for RP purposes or people who just want pvp double drops
and a PvP server with no trammel facets at all. Remove Tram/Illsh/Malas/Ter Mur/Eodon completely and you'll steal 80% of free shard players
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