Anyone else have a house disappear since yesterday?

[old gypsy]

Let's follow the thread for a second

It started with omg my house is gone.

Later it was let on the account was inactive.

Further down, it was, well I did receive an email warning me.

Then it was well, I can't fix the mountain or the plot next
to me.

Then it was their fault because of "account security".

I mean com'on, really?

I have empathy but I'm not blind.

Read my last post. "It's beginning to feel like a feeding frenzy in here. Why not start a separate thread about the policy and stop slamming any particular players who happen to be following established policy?"

 

[OREOGL]

Read my last post. "It's beginning to feel like a feeding frenzy in here. Why not start a separate thread about the policy and stop slamming any particular players who happen to be following established policy?"

I was replying to the first one.

 

[Merus]

The easiest solution for the 90 day window (which has a legit function) is the lock the house to all but the owner. Anyone who is using the function for which it was intended isn't playing the account (or any other account). Those that want to use the 90 day window for extra storage, it's fine by me, but you are going to need to activate the account when you want access to your stored items. Seems simple enough to me.

 

[Merlin]

Your just a touch harsh man, lol. A spoon full of sugar helps the medicine go down and all, lol. But that's who you are and I wouldn't want it any other way

Haha. It takes all kinds. That's why I like to post here. I get in trouble at work for my mouth sometimes too... but then if they need someone to deliver harsh news to an uppity client, I'm the one who gets tapped to do it. Works both ways I guess

But very fair point, I usually read and re-read my posts again and again and edit out some of the edgy things, but then they still come out that way anyway. I assure you, it's never meant to be taken personally.

 

[BrianFreud]

Let's follow the thread for a second

It started with omg my house is gone.

Later it was let on the account was inactive.

Further down, it was, well I did receive an email warning me.

Then it was well, I can't fix the mountain or the plot next
to me.

Then it was their fault because of "account security".

I mean com'on, really?

I have empathy but I'm not blind.

Actually, no.

I said my house had disappeared. I mentioned it never went IDOC. In a follow up post, I mention that even a GM cannot figure out why the house disappeared.

Somehow, you and a couple others have decided that this basic info doesn't matter. You've been on a witchhunt to argue that somehow this has anything to do with inactive accounts and other things, no matter how many times I've pointed out that those things have no relevance here.

You've jumped to using the warning as some sort of justification, yet ignored what the warning actually says.

Any confusion here, you're creating yourself.

 

[OREOGL]

I believe they are allowed to remove specific items, if a rule is broken, once clear warning has been given and sufficient time has elapsed. To remove a plot, I am told they need Mesanna's permission first.

The mere fact of having sent any warning is not justification for the deletion of the plot, especially when the allowed time period had not expired. I was quite careful in designing, building, and placing that house to ensure that it broke no rules. The warning they sent me says nothing about the plot, and is incomprehensible regarding any invalidly placed items. The only recourse it allows, for clarification or resolution, is paging a GM. I have already done that, though the plot already was gone at the time. The GM was also unable to figure out what that warning was saying was a problem. If even the people issuing the warning cannot actually comprehend what it says, then how can the players be expected to?

Well man I'm not going to pretend I know their justification as I also wondered why they didn't delete the offending items.

However we do know you were given a warning and they promptly followed through on it. We do not know if they had permission from mesanna or not.

For your sake, I hope they do replace the items but I hope you've learned a lesson here.

My offer in the conversation I sent you yesterday still stands. I will even double it if you're able to transfer it back to chessy.

 

[Capt. Lucky]

The easiest solution for the 90 day window (which has a legit function) is the lock the house to all but the owner. Anyone who is using the function for which it was intended isn't playing the account (or any other account). Those that want to use the 90 day window for extra storage, it's fine by me, but you are going to need to activate the account when you want access to your stored items. Seems simple enough to me.

My plan would be the minute the account goes inactive the door is locked and no one gets in. The 90 day timer starts. Military doesn't lose their houses. Everyone else will notice they can't get in and say "Hey EA kicked my credit card back again for no reason, I'd better go fix that". That way the house stays for legitimate reasons an account may lapse for a brief time and no one is playing the EA mooching game. Cause just not being able to log in doesn't seem to work when people co own all their accounts to it.

 

[Merus]

I feel for Brian... His actions were no different than lots and lots of other players who take advantage of the 90 day window and build goza floors above the foundation who don't have thief homes and items deleted.

Most of us would feel the same way if we watched person after person run a stop sign, then when we follow along we get stopped, arrested, and thrown in jail. When the rules aren't applied equally and consistently, it does feel unfair and frustrating to be singled out... Especially when it comes at such a high cost.

 

[OREOGL]

Actually, no.

I said my house had disappeared. I mentioned it never went IDOC. In a follow up post, I mention that even a GM cannot figure out why the house disappeared.

Somehow, you and a couple others have decided that this basic info doesn't matter. You've been on a witchhunt to argue that somehow this has anything to do with inactive accounts and other things, no matter how many times I've pointed out that those things have no relevance here.

You've jumped to using the warning as some sort of justification, yet ignored what the warning actually says.

Any confusion here, you're creating yourself.

I've made these based off the information you have over the entire thread.

I wish you luck, but as a side note if you want to play chicken with a gm warning you they're going to delete your house, you're probably going to end up in the losing end.

"I didn't know" isn't much of a defense.

 

[TimberWolf]

Actually, no.

I said my house had disappeared. I mentioned it never went IDOC. In a follow up post, I mention that even a GM cannot figure out why the house disappeared.

Somehow, you and a couple others have decided that this basic info doesn't matter. You've been on a witchhunt to argue that somehow this has anything to do with inactive accounts and other things, no matter how many times I've pointed out that those things have no relevance here.

You've jumped to using the warning as some sort of justification, yet ignored what the warning actually says.

Any confusion here, you're creating yourself.

Dude you just dont get it!

Actually I am fairly certain you get it...you just refuse to OWN it. And of course the account being inactive matters....again you just dont like the truth because then you arent the victim anymore....you are the reason this happened!

 

[Capt. Lucky]

It didn't go IDOC cause it was manually dropped due to a violation. Solved that mystery. The fact the one GM doesn't know what another GM did isn't all that surprising to me. I doubt they hang out at the bar.

 

[Merlin]

Dude you just dont get it!

Actually I am fairly certain you get it...you just refuse to OWN it. And of course the account being inactive matters....again you just dont like the truth because then you arent the victim anymore....you are the reason this happened!

This is my gripe at this point too. Not taking any personal responsibility.

 

[Merlin]

Are you having fun inventing your own facts while bumping your own post counts?

Facts that you've admitted to like not actively paying, getting warnings via email, etc.? Doesn't seem like an invention to me.

Shockingly, still no admission of any responsibility on your part.

 

[Capt. Lucky]

Ever since I lost 2 houses last year due to the IDOC changes, I now walk every one of my houses daily, just to triple check that nothing's gone wrong and set any of them IDOC.

I walked them all last night, none was in any stage of decay.

I've even checked with IDOCer friends, and none had any of my houses marked as IDOC lately.

For those who've been to see the mountain house I've been building for the past 3 years... the right house disappeared today. IT NEVER WENT IDOC. It simply *poofed*. Nothing was on the sign, nothing is on the ground, and nothing is in the cavern. I was walking in that house last night on a co-owner account.

The only thing I can think is that something got borked when Chessie was upgraded yesterday. But I've lost 3 years of very nitpicky house design, many biillions of gold's worth in items (including my entire seer scroll collection)... Even if I re-place the plot, the design really isn't something that can be rebuilt; it took years just to find enough rubbles, flowstones, snow piles, etc to build it the first time.

Broadsword, I'm seriously unhappy here.

-Brian

READ your first post that got everyone fired up. House drops due to IDOC changes! House dropped without ever going into IDOC! "THE ONLY THING I CAN THINK IS THAT SOMETHING GOT BORKED WHEN CHESSIE WAS UPGRADED YESTERDAY". You flat out were BSing us. Then when more of the story comes out it's far different than you led us to believe. Then you wonder why we turned on you? Don't intentionally try to mislead me and feed me BS then think I'm just gonna suck it up. Everyone read that first post I quoted above. Is that the story we have now?

 

[Zuckuss]

We are getting way out of hand here. I don't think this is about the decay system, which by the way is 90 days past account inactivity as stated. It doe not matter how or why it came to be 90 days. It is 90 days. It is a bit unreasonale accuse anyone of "stealing" for operating under this rule. You could call it high risk or poor planning on the grounds of the limited margin of error and for the reason that things do not always work as intended, but stealing? Come on folks. Most of us are adults here.

Brian, you must have anticipated the mixed response, but you know the correct action to take to address your problem. This needs to be fixe through the proe channels. Any more mudslinging and we will have to end this discussion.

 

[Capt. Lucky]

We are getting way out of hand here. I don't think this is about the decay system, which by the way is 90 days past account inactivity as stated. It doe not matter how or why it came to be 90 days. It is 90 days. It is a bit unreasonale accuse anyone of "stealing" for operating under this rule. You could call it high risk or poor planning on the grounds of the limited margin of error and for the reason that things do not always work as intended, but stealing? Come on folks. Most of us are adults here.

Brian, you must have anticipated the mixed response, but you know the correct action to take to address your problem. This needs to be fixe through the proe channels. Any more mudslinging and we will have to end this discussion.

We know the rules. Mostly we are stating our opinions on this matter. I don't think EA ever intended one to buy one month get 3 months free lol. Seriously? 90% of the people here have extra accounts just for housing and storage. We pay every month so we DON'T have problems like this. The OP states this is EA's problem and many of us have a different opinion. That's all.

 

[TimberWolf]

We are getting way out of hand here. I don't think this is about the decay system, which by the way is 90 days past account inactivity as stated. It dose not matter how or why it came to be 90 days. It is 90 days. It is a bit unreasonable accuse anyone of "stealing" for operating under this rule. You could call it high risk or poor planning on the grounds of the limited margin of error and for the reason that things do not always work as intended, but stealing? Come on folks. Most of us are adults here.

Brian, you must have anticipated the mixed response, but you know the correct action to take to address your problem. This needs to be fixed through the proper channels. Any more mudslinging and we will have to end this discussion.

Wild, of course it matters how and why a program was implemented. People constantly abuse the system, just because it isn't enforced actively doesn't mean it isn't abuse.

This system was designed for vets and active serving members on deployment. Just because many many people use the system that aren't entitled to it doesn't make it ok. I know you use the same system Wild...doesn't make it right my friend. And yes anyone using this system that isn't an active serving member of the military is stealing IMHO. You or he can rationalize it anyway you want. But you are using a system that wasn't designed for your use! That is pretty damn disrespectful in my opinion.

(oh and I repaired your spelling Wild...you must have been in a hurry this morning)

 

[Angel of Sonoma]

I wish this thread would get locked. I can't see the sense in attacking a dedicated player who is playing by the allowed guidelines/rules, regardless of how any of us may feel about those rules.

Hang in there, Brian. I truly hope the issue will soon be resolved.

Those are the wisest words in this entire thread.

 

[Capt. Lucky]

Yeah you bring something to the peanut gallery you gotta expect this, lol. If they did say you had 7 days to address it, then you should have 7 days. I will say that much for you (Brian). But ultimately this is going to be Broadsword's call. They aren't going to listen to public opinion even if it was 100% on your side. That's where I'd focus my attention. They and you are the only ones with all the facts. I am sorry you lost all that stuff and all. Hopefully we all learned from this what can happen when one tries to walk a fine line. I for one had no ideal a rubble house even existed much less be illegal.

 

[BrianFreud]

Lucky, you're entitled to your own opinion on that system. The thing is, it has nothing to do with this situation.

The only reason active or inactive account came up at all is because you guys insisted on it being the cause. You've consistently ignored that, were this an inactive account / house going IDOC type of problem, there would be a decay period followed by an IDOC. No IDOC, no decay period, and a GM even confirming that the house did not fall due to inactivity, none of those seem to matter to you guys, because it doesn't support your argument. You'd rather make all sorts of accusations and invent new facts, such as...

It didn't go IDOC cause it was manually dropped due to a violation.

...even though those invented 'facts' are blatently wrong. There was no violation. There was a warning which even Broadsword's own employee could not explain. Ignoring that, the time period granted by that warning had not expired.

So:
inactive account > IDOC issue? no.
ignored warning issue? no.

That was clear back around the top of page 2; everything since then has pretty much been 4 trolls feasting.

EDIT:

I for one had no ideal a rubble house even existed much less be illegal.

Just to be clear, noone has said rubble houses are illegal, either.

 

[Zuckuss]

Okay folks. This thread has been massively cleaned to the best of our ability by several of our moderating staff. I will allow this discussion to continue... reluctantly.

Stay on topic, don't drift off-subject.
Refrain from personal attacks.
Don't make me regret reopening this thread.
Please do not ignore this warning.

 

[Philly]

Once the GM forwarded this to Mesanna it should have been taken care of immediately and Chesapeake should have been reverted and the people there given shard bound presents. Also in my opinion this should still be done.

 

[Lady Storm]

Brian sorry to hear of the loss of your home. [email protected] send her an e mail, under subject put the following: Malfunction of shard maintence - distroyed home.
In brief message tell her of the loss, account name, *no passwords needed* the name of the GM who attended the que call, location *shard, facit, cords and date. Give her a way to contact you if need be. Cross your fingers its findable....

 

[THP]

i quick shard revert the day you reported it would have been good...sorry brian...this random stuff sucks

 

[Capt. Lucky]

Kudos to the moderators who I fully expected to destroy this thread beyond recognition. TY for not doing so. Brian isn't going to admit any fault (not that he should if he honestly feels that way) on his part as he has a vested interest. The rest of us along with Brian are pretty much just repeating the same thing over and over at this point. Why this is continuing is beyond me also, however I will probably keep reading it.... reluctantly.

 

[Capt. Lucky]

I think it would be nice to change the title of this thread to "Has anyone else had a house deleted by a GM due to a rule violation since yesterday?". It's freaking people out thinking something is wrong with the game. The odds of this happening to anyone else is about zip.

 

[Capt. Lucky]

The thing I found the most amazing and shocking in this thread was, you can page a GM, they would actually show up, and they would actually do something (If that was right for them to do something in this instance is a matter of discussion). I haven't needed a GM in years and I normally don't see them at the tavern. So in a way I was pleased to hear they are still out there doing their job. GMs are like cops. You hope you never need one, but it's nice they're there if you do.

 

[OREOGL]

Lucky, you're entitled to your own opinion on that system. The thing is, it has nothing to do with this situation.

The only reason active or inactive account came up at all is because you guys insisted on it being the cause. You've consistently ignored that, were this an inactive account / house going IDOC type of problem, there would be a decay period followed by an IDOC. No IDOC, no decay period, and a GM even confirming that the house did not fall due to inactivity, none of those seem to matter to you guys, because it doesn't support your argument. You'd rather make all sorts of accusations and invent new facts, such as...

...even though those invented 'facts' are blatently wrong. There was no violation. There was a warning which even Broadsword's own employee could not explain. Ignoring that, the time period granted by that warning had not expired.

So:
inactive account > IDOC issue? no.
ignored warning issue? no.

That was clear back around the top of page 2; everything since then has pretty much been 4 trolls feasting.

EDIT:

Just to be clear, noone has said rubble houses are illegal, either.

How do you get that it wasn't a warning issue when they sent you warning saying they were going to delete your house for improperly placed items?

But good for you for sticking it to the man.

 

[Capt. Lucky]

How do you get that it wasn't a warning issue when they sent you warning saying they were going to delete your house for improperly placed items?

But good for you for sticking it to the man.

It was clearly deleted by a GM for a rule violation if he agrees with the rule or not. The thing here is if a GM/Broadsword/EA tells you it's a violation (Which Brian says they did in email) then you have to go along with it if you like it or not. Seriously what would you expect to happen? It's their game, they can make any rule and pretty much do anything they want. The *only* issue is if they really did say he had a week to address the matter he should have been given a week. Other than that, well that's happens. Now *if* the account was inactive, well I could see why they would go ahead and delete it. Cause no one is playing it anyway, right? This does remind me of a "played with fire" situation in general though.

 

[Victim of Siege]

 

[Uriah Heep]

The easiest solution for the 90 day window (which has a legit function) is the lock the house to all but the owner. Anyone who is using the function for which it was intended isn't playing the account (or any other account). Those that want to use the 90 day window for extra storage, it's fine by me, but you are going to need to activate the account when you want access to your stored items. Seems simple enough to me.

No it isn't.
Here is the simplest solution, one that everyone can understande, doesnt take a lawyer to interpret.

If your account goes inactive today, then tomorrow it starts the decay cycle...which will be fixed to where it is always 5 days.
This means there will be no guessing, no mistake, no miscalculations, no gaming of the system.

 

[Kirthag]

From my painful experience with houses going *poof*... you may get your plot back, but not all the stuff. Might even get a small gold shower, but not all the stuff. Kiss all that goodbye Brian.

I view this situation as an over zealous GM seeing an inactive account that had received a warning flag and decided to poof everything while doing his/her normal rounds - and seeing as nothing went into the cave and such, they deleted, didn't just drop. I seriously doubt "someone" got all your stuff for you'd see the remnants of discarded "useless" things like books and containers as seen at typical idoc frenzies or an influx of rubble on the market. If you do, I would seriously discuss this with Mesanna. I know for a fact the GMs and Mesanna make regular rounds to all the shards checking on flags and inactives - I suffered for that myself and lost a house full of rares. Painful, but a lesson learned (I now pay my accounts asap - but I don't carry as many accounts as I used to).

Personally, sounds like someone trolled your house dude, which suxxors. I seriously doubt if a GM got "paid off" as those ppl are not volunteers, but paid employees and it is a serious infraction to show any sort of favoritism to players - GMs get fired for that and I doubt someone would risk his or her job for someone getting greedy over pixels.

I feel you dude, but not much more can be said about it except to let us know the outcome, eh?

 

[Uriah Heep]

Yeah you bring something to the peanut gallery you gotta expect this, lol. If they did say you had 7 days to address it, then you should have 7 days. I will say that much for you (Brian). But ultimately this is going to be Broadsword's call. They aren't going to listen to public opinion even if it was 100% on your side. That's where I'd focus my attention. They and you are the only ones with all the facts. I am sorry you lost all that stuff and all. Hopefully we all learned from this what can happen when one tries to walk a fine line. I for one had no ideal a rubble house even existed much less be illegal.

I've seen quite a few rubble houses across the shards. my main house on Legends is rubble deco on a standard build. Even have seen gozas used to hang rubble above doors and windows. Only time I ever heard of it being a problem was once in Luna, a house owner had purposely built two stories higher to block out the competitions vendors across the street lol.

 

[Capt. Lucky]

I've seen quite a few rubble houses across the shards. my main house on Legends is rubble deco on a standard build. Even have seen gozas used to hang rubble above doors and windows. Only time I ever heard of it being a problem was once in Luna, a house owner had purposely built two stories higher to block out the competitions vendors across the street lol.

He said something about mountains. So possibly he was blocking the mountain from being mined? It's a really odd situation. Funny about the vendor thing though, lol.

 

[Capt. Lucky]

No it isn't.
Here is the simplest solution, one that everyone can understande, doesnt take a lawyer to interpret.

If your account goes inactive today, then tomorrow it starts the decay cycle...which will be fixed to where it is always 5 days.
This means there will be no guessing, no mistake, no miscalculations, no gaming of the system.

I really think people need a reasonable amount of time to cover honest mistakes and EA account system screw ups. I know the billing system can't always charge a credit card properly cause it's happened to me twice lately. I know I don't check my accounts daily and even weekly at times. If you wound up in a hospital suddenly from a car accident for a few weeks and unable to access your account you might modify your opinion. I think around 30 days is reasonable. Long enough to cover most things but not long enough to abuse easily.

 

[Uriah Heep]

Yeah I can see that. 30 days it is!!!

 

[Mesanna]

Hello Everyone,

GM's will not delete a house, I am the only one that does that. brianfreud2's house was already decayed when I was asked by a GM to come give my opinion as to why it was blocking house placement. As most of you know certain items will do that and will be fixed in the near future. The GM sent Brian an email asking him to remove the items himself, which she did not have to.

By the time we had any knowledge the house had decayed it was on the 93'rd day of non payment. I will look into the decay process to make sure nothing went wrong but, if anything that is the issue here. Once I have the results of this I will contact you Brian and let you know something.

I hope this clears a few things up.

 

[Capt. Lucky]

Hello Everyone,

GM's will not delete a house, I am the only one that does that. brianfreud2's house was already decayed when I was asked by a GM to come give my opinion as to why it was blocking house placement. As most of you know certain items will do that and will be fixed in the near future. The GM sent Brian an email asking him to remove the items himself, which she did not have to.

By the time we had any knowledge the house had decayed it was on the 93'rd day of non payment. I will look into the decay process to make sure nothing went wrong but, if anything that is the issue here. Once I have the results of this I will contact you Brian and let you know something.

I hope this clears a few things up.

Thanks for ruining a perfectly good conspiracy thread

 

[Merlin]

@Mesanna Why has this policy of being able to keep accounts and have to only pay every 3 or 4 months been allowed to go on for so long?

It's really truly not fair to the people who do pay on time and are blocked out of housing placement spots.

 

[Capt. Lucky]

Well now we know if a GM wants to charge you to drop someone's house it's a rip off! Don't fall for it!!! lol

 

[OREOGL]

Hello Everyone,

GM's will not delete a house, I am the only one that does that. brianfreud2's house was already decayed when I was asked by a GM to come give my opinion as to why it was blocking house placement. As most of you know certain items will do that and will be fixed in the near future. The GM sent Brian an email asking him to remove the items himself, which she did not have to.

By the time we had any knowledge the house had decayed it was on the 93'rd day of non payment. I will look into the decay process to make sure nothing went wrong but, if anything that is the issue here. Once I have the results of this I will contact you Brian and let you know something.

I hope this clears a few things up.

And the truth finally comes out.

Thanks for dropping in to clear this up.

 

[Merus]

No it isn't.
Here is the simplest solution, one that everyone can understande, doesnt take a lawyer to interpret.

If your account goes inactive today, then tomorrow it starts the decay cycle...which will be fixed to where it is always 5 days.
This means there will be no guessing, no mistake, no miscalculations, no gaming of the system.

Except that I think there is a legit reason for giving people 90 days to reactivate their accounts before they loose their stuff. It isn't the 90 day window that makes this system something that can be abused... it is the fact that you can have full access to everything in the house on that account that lets it be abused. I have no issue with people who want to pay for an account every 90 days for long term storage... but they should have to pay to reactivate the account to gain access to the storage.

 

[BrianFreud]

Hello Everyone,

GM's will not delete a house, I am the only one that does that. brianfreud2's house was already decayed when I was asked by a GM to come give my opinion as to why it was blocking house placement. As most of you know certain items will do that and will be fixed in the near future. The GM sent Brian an email asking him to remove the items himself, which she did not have to.

By the time we had any knowledge the house had decayed it was on the 93'rd day of non payment. I will look into the decay process to make sure nothing went wrong but, if anything that is the issue here. Once I have the results of this I will contact you Brian and let you know something.

I hope this clears a few things up.

Thank you for the reply. I would have preferred that this communication be conducted in a private manner. @Zuckuss I repeat my request that this thread be locked; the communications from those other than Mesanna have continued to break the RoC.

@Mesanna I can only repeat that the house sign did not show any state of decay and I was walking in it on a non-owner account character the night before. The GM I spoke with stated that as far as he could see, the house had not been in any state of decay before it disappeared. If it were in decay, the sign should have shown that, the house should have gone private, and I should not have been able to walk in it. Walking in it, I should have had the status message "this house is condemned" shown. Then, if it was indeed in day 93, it should only have been 3 days into the 5 day decay process, and still should not have fallen. Once it did fall, it should have left items and grubbers on the ground, rather than all items simply disappear.

Regarding payment, my records show that I applied a game time to that account in June. As no dates for inactive accounts are displayed on the account management site, I cannot confirm what it sees.

I would also request some clarification from you here. The communication from the GM who emailed is, to be blunt, incomprehensible regarding what the issue with the house is. "The house belongs to your account and has multiple items going beyong foundation and are also build toward the mountain behind the building." I had every available house spot in that area already claimed. The house in question backs onto a mountain. This is clearly visible in the screenshot I posted earlier in this thread. So what house placement was being blocked? What were the 'illegal' items which I was supposed to remove?

 

[Lord Frodo]

Thank you for the reply. I would have preferred that this communication be conducted in a private manner. @Zuckuss I repeat my request that this thread be locked; the communications from those other than Mesanna have continued to break the RoC.

@Mesanna I can only repeat that the house sign did not show any state of decay and I was walking in it on a non-owner account character the night before. The GM I spoke with stated that as far as he could see, the house had not been in any state of decay before it disappeared. If it were in decay, the sign should have shown that, the house should have gone private, and I should not have been able to walk in it. Walking in it, I should have had the status message "this house is condemned" shown. Then, if it was indeed in day 93, it should only have been 3 days into the 5 day decay process, and still should not have fallen. Once it did fall, it should have left items and grubbers on the ground, rather than all items simply disappear.

Regarding payment, my records show that I applied a game time to that account in June. As no dates for inactive accounts are displayed on the account management site, I cannot confirm what it sees.

I would also request some clarification from you here. The communication from the GM who emailed is, to be blunt, incomprehensible regarding what the issue with the house is. "The house belongs to your account and has multiple items going beyong foundation and are also build toward the mountain behind the building." I had every available house spot in that area already claimed. The house in question backs onto a mountain. This is clearly visible in the screenshot I posted earlier in this thread. So what house placement was being blocked? What were the 'illegal' items which I was supposed to remove?

WOW You publicly call out UO and when UO publicly gives you an answer you get all butt hurt. Oh wait or was it because what Mesanna said didn't agree with what you said to us in UOStratics so to set the record straight she told us the real facts.

 

[Merlin]

House was decayed.

93 days of non-payment.

Didn't respond to GM emails.

The original poster tattles on everyone and got a bunch of posts he didn't like deleted, when he himself caused this entire drama by not admitting to the payment delinquency we all knew was going on.

I'm glad Mesanna cleared this up. The original poster called out UO and GM's publicly, caused a stir by the tactics being employed to keep this accounts running, and rightfully got a public answer.

I repeat my request to the developers:
@Mesanna @Bleak @Kyronix Please end this practice of allowing accounts to sit on houses that are only paid once every three or four months. It isn't fair to people who pay on regular and on time.

 

[Zuckuss]

Thank you for the reply. I would have preferred that this communication be conducted in a private manner. @Zuckuss I repeat my request that this thread be locked; the communications from those other than Mesanna have continued to break the RoC.

They probably would have appreciated that too. I did not receive any actual request to lock the thread. Regardless, an answer has been provided and it is time to let this one fall down the list. I am very sorry about your situation @brianfreud2.