Fel Artifact drop rate

[Fridgster]

Many have noticed that there is a large discrepancy between artifact drops in Fel and Tram. I'm just kind of curious what is causing this. I understand that you get that extra 1000 luck in Fel but it seems to be more than that. Is it possible that Fel luck is actually working as the luck property was intended and luck in general really is boinked? Maybe the 1000 luck is being doubled like resources? It seems to be too frequent to just be the RNG... course then again...

 

[Lord Frodo]

Just another enticement to try and lure people back to Fel.

 

[Merus]

I suspect it may have to do more with the fact that more items drop on Fel mobs than Tram mobs... thus more chances at a item that might be good.

 

[Fridgster]

Just another enticement to try and lure people back to Fel.

I don't think so. If it was they would have brought it to every ones attention.

 

[Fridgster]

I suspect it may have to do more with the fact that more items drop on Fel mobs than Tram mobs... thus more chances at a item that might be good.

Really? I didn't realize more items dropped.... shows how much I pay attention.

 

[GarthGrey]

"We love both the Luck boost as well as double resources"...said no one on Siege...ever.

 

[HoneythornGump]

I suspect it may have to do more with the fact that more items drop on Fel mobs than Tram mobs... thus more chances at a item that might be good.

Negative. The there is a HUGE difference in quality.

Treasure Maps drop the same number of items and the Felucca Maps are 10x better than the Trammel Facet counterparts.

Go test it yourself.

It's a night and day difference.

 

[Merus]

Negative. The there is a HUGE difference in quality.

Treasure Maps drop the same number of items and the Felucca Maps are 10x better than the Trammel Facet counterparts.

Go test it yourself.

It's a night and day difference.

Yes go test it. Go do 10 level 1 maps in Tram and 10 level 1 maps in Fel and tell me how much of a statisically significant difference you can see.... I'll be waiting.

 

[Merus]

Really? I didn't realize more items dropped.... shows how much I pay attention.

Go do a Lady M in tram and then do one in fel... you'll be able to tell.

 

[Fridgster]

Yes go test it. Go do 10 level 1 maps in Tram and 10 level 1 maps in Fel and tell me how much of a statisically significant difference you can see.... I'll be waiting.

I believe that's a poor example. The loot level quality will inherently have a lower loot pool. This will make the results narrower by default. You want to see a difference, go kill shadow wyrms in fel then in tram. No luck on the fel encounters and 1000 on the tram encounters. You will notice a pretty surprising difference.

 

[Merus]

I believe that's a poor example. The loot level quality will inherently have a lower loot pool. This will make the results narrower by default. You want to see a difference, go kill shadow wyrms in fel then in tram. No luck on the fel encounters and 1000 on the tram encounters. You will notice a pretty surprising difference.

1000 Luck, if working as advertised yields less than a 50% chance to boost an item. With hunting pretty much anything in tram vs fel, you have a much better chance of that <50% chance to proc when you have double the items dropping. Do you have a better chance of getting a item that has been bump in fel, yes... but I think a good portion of why it is NOTICABLE is because there are twice as many items dropping on the fel side... and even then, its only on the very high end mobs... But consider... Lady M in Tram drops crap... Lady M in Fel drops twice as much crap... neither one really drops anything worth anything.

 

[HoneythornGump]

Yes go test it. Go do 10 level 1 maps in Tram and 10 level 1 maps in Fel and tell me how much of a statisically significant difference you can see.... I'll be waiting.

I have tested or I wouldn't be opening my mouth....

I've been Treasure Hunting HEAVILY for the past 3-4 days ( Level 6s & 7s).

Out of the approximately 25 Trammel Facet maps where I was keeping track I pulled in 3-4 low grade legendary Artifacts.

Of the 40 or so Felucca Maps Level 6s and 7s I've pulled on the range of 25+ Legendary Artifacts.

Between this post, and my last post 10 minutes ago I pulled out 2 Legendary Artifacts out of a Level 6 Map in Felucca.

This isn't RNG. Trammel facet maps the norm is to go 10,15, or even 20 level 6 Maps before getting a Legendary.

Go visit Treasure Hunters Forum or talk to other hardcare THunters.

There is a reason why I quit Treasure Hunting since VvV, because the loot is absolute garbage on the Trammel Facets which is where I treasure hunt 95%of the time because I prefer those spawns.

Out of boredom I started doing some maps, and started in Felucca and starting pulling in nice artifacts. As soon as I started doing Trammel Facet I pulling the same junk and I told myself this is the exact reason I quit treasure hunting in the first place.

Just looking at the items dropping you can see a difference in the intensity from the Trammel Facet.

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.

I'm just giving a heads up to people out there who are banging their head against the wall in Trammel trying to get Legendaries. It's a landslide for Felucca in terms of pulling Legendary Artifacts out of Treasure Maps.

 

[Merus]

I have tested or I wouldn't be opening my mouth....

I've been Treasure Hunting HEAVILY for the past 3-4 days ( Level 6s & 7s).

Out of the approximately 25 Trammel Facet maps where I was keeping track I pulled in 3-4 low grade legendary Artifacts.

Of the 40 or so Felucca Maps Level 6s and 7s I've pulled on the range of 25+ Legendary Artifacts.

Between this post, and my last post 10 minutes ago I pulled out 2 Legendary Artifacts out of a Level 6 Map in Felucca.

This isn't RNG. Trammel facet maps the norm is to go 10,15, or even 20 level 6 Maps before getting a Legendary.

Go visit Treasure Hunters Forum or talk to other hardcare THunters.

There is a reason why I quit Treasure Hunting since VvV, because the loot is absolute garbage on the Trammel Facets which is where I treasure hunt 95%of the time because I prefer those spawns.

Out of boredom I started doing some maps, and started in Felucca and starting pulling in nice artifacts. As soon as I started doing Trammel Facet I pulling the same junk and I told myself this is the exact reason I quit treasure hunting in the first place.

Just looking at the items dropping you can see a difference in the intensity from the Trammel Facet.

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.

I'm just giving a heads up to people out there who are banging their head against the wall in Trammel trying to get Legendaries. It's a landslide for Felucca in terms of pulling Legendary Artifacts out of Treasure Maps.

I love it... Heavily for DAYS... really .... DAAAAYYYYSSSS. Sorry, I dont mean to poke fun. I have done hundreds and hundreds (I saved my maps for almost a year waiting for the loot changes) of level 6 and 7 maps... across all facets.

But again, your talking about maps with 120+ items in them, so yes... you will see the luck proc more often. But I can also tell you the very best items I've gotten weren't on the Fel side. Wait until you hit a run of level 6 and 7 maps in Fel and get no legendaries... then the next one you do in tram you get 3... Real RNG can be just as fickle as any perceived bonus from Luck.

edit: and incidentally, I do them with 2000+ luck on my suit plus the anniv statue.

 

[CovenantX]

the "Best" items only come from Ter-Mur & Ilshenar t-maps, reason being, is you cannot get Eaters, Casting Focus, or Splintering Weapon items from any other facet maps.

Trammel, Malas, & Tokuno maps are the least likely to get good loot, though still possible.

 

[Merus]

the "Best" items only come from Ter-Mur & Ilshenar t-maps, reason being, is you cannot get Eaters, Casting Focus, or Splintering Weapon items from any other facet maps.

Trammel, Malas, & Tokuno maps are the least likely to get good loot, though still possible.

Shhhh

 

[HoneythornGump]

I'll trade anyone who reads this two level 6 Maps (Trammel, Ter Mur, Ishlenar, Ter Mur, Tokuno) for 1 level 6 map in Felucca.

I have 2500 level 6 Maps I'm willing to trade on a 2 to 1 bases on Atlantic.

PM me.

 

[Goldberg-Chessy]

Just another enticement to try and lure people back to Fel.

Have you actively pvm'ed in Fel lately? Like even in the past few years?
You can pretty much go wherever you want for long periods of time without being bothered. And I am talking about on Atlantic, the busiest shard. Nobody is trying to lure anyone anywhere.
Not sure where your clueless 'lure' paranoia originated from but it is quite laughable. What scared you so much in an MMORPG?
People are mean, rude and dishonest on all facets btw bud so would really like to know what your issue is?

 

[Lord Gandalf]

Many have noticed that there is a large discrepancy between artifact drops in Fel and Tram. I'm just kind of curious what is causing this. I understand that you get that extra 1000 luck in Fel but it seems to be more than that. Is it possible that Fel luck is actually working as the luck property was intended and luck in general really is boinked? Maybe the 1000 luck is being doubled like resources? It seems to be too frequent to just be the RNG... course then again...

Simple, go to fell

 

[Goldberg-Chessy]

I have tested or I wouldn't be opening my mouth....

I've been Treasure Hunting HEAVILY for the past 3-4 days ( Level 6s & 7s).

Out of the approximately 25 Trammel Facet maps where I was keeping track I pulled in 3-4 low grade legendary Artifacts.

Of the 40 or so Felucca Maps Level 6s and 7s I've pulled on the range of 25+ Legendary Artifacts.

Between this post, and my last post 10 minutes ago I pulled out 2 Legendary Artifacts out of a Level 6 Map in Felucca.

This isn't RNG. Trammel facet maps the norm is to go 10,15, or even 20 level 6 Maps before getting a Legendary.

Go visit Treasure Hunters Forum or talk to other hardcare THunters.

There is a reason why I quit Treasure Hunting since VvV, because the loot is absolute garbage on the Trammel Facets which is where I treasure hunt 95%of the time because I prefer those spawns.

Out of boredom I started doing some maps, and started in Felucca and starting pulling in nice artifacts. As soon as I started doing Trammel Facet I pulling the same junk and I told myself this is the exact reason I quit treasure hunting in the first place.

Just looking at the items dropping you can see a difference in the intensity from the Trammel Facet.

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.

I'm just giving a heads up to people out there who are banging their head against the wall in Trammel trying to get Legendaries. It's a landslide for Felucca in terms of pulling Legendary Artifacts out of Treasure Maps.

Tested?
3-4 days with an approx total of only 65 maps?
Are you freaking kidding me lol
Do you even understand what RNG is or means?

 

[Lord Frodo]

Have you actively pvm'ed in Fel lately? Like even in the past few years?
You can pretty much go wherever you want for long periods of time without being bothered. And I am talking about on Atlantic, the busiest shard. Nobody is trying to lure anyone anywhere.
Not sure where your clueless 'lure' paranoia originated from but it is quite laughable. What scared you so much in an MMORPG?
People are mean, rude and dishonest on all facets btw bud so would really like to know what your issue is?

LMAO PLEASE BUD show me anything I said that is bad. I made a flat out statement that it is just another way to get people back in Fel and you go all childish with BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH, well PLEASE keep all your BLAH BLAH BLAH to yourself, THANK YOU.

 

[Lord Gandalf]

LMAO PLEASE BUD show me anything I said that is bad. I made a flat out statement that it is just another way to get people back in Fel and you go all childish with BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH, well PLEASE keep all your BLAH BLAH BLAH to yourself, THANK YOU.

Lol, Frodo your reply was very vague, for a second i also thought u were crying about fell advantages. I guess it was just a misunderstanding

 

[Lord Frodo]

Lol, Frodo your reply was very vague, for a second i also thought u were crying about fell advantages. I guess it was just a misunderstanding

Whatever, I just made a statement that it is another way to get people back in Fel and of course people go Ranting and Raving about it.

 

[Yadd of Legends]

Tested?
3-4 days with an approx total of only 65 maps?
Are you freaking kidding me lol
Do you even understand what RNG is or means?

Now wait a minute. You just stated that fel loot is "1000 times better" than tram loot, so why are you arguing with his statement that fel t hunt loot is better than tram t hunt loot? Wouldn't you expect that to be true - 65 maps or 100 maps or 1000 maps - since fel loot is 1000 times better than tram loot?Which side of the argument do you want to be on here?

 

[NinjaSampire]

For the last 2 years I have been doing level 6 maps. Since the loot change, I have been pretty fortunate with my finds. For awhile it was Malas I seemed to fair on jewels. Then it slowed there but was getting lucky in ish with eaters. I think the loot tables have not changed per say but for ME I almost think that the better loot rotates throughout the facets with each facet having it's "specialties" (eaters, splinter etc) I will say that lately I have noticed better stuff in fel. But I think that's just how it is now; maybe in a Few weeks tokuno maps will be hot, I run 2400 luck, even the junk seems to have more intensity in fel, but I think that is the extra luck maybe???? I will admit most of you all have forgotten more about the game than I have yet learned this is just what I have noticed. I think it's a balance of luck on character; RNG (not real clear what it is, but think it is how the loot tables are laid out to give randomness) and being lucky. Sorry about the rambling, but I'm kind of happy having to do all the different maps. I do agree that I am rarely bothered in fel by pvp's, but when someone puts me in ghost form I laugh and just think that if I was a RL treasure hunter in the land of Sosaria I would be crazy to think that it would not have a certain level of danger to it. Sorry about the poor sentence structure and length of post. I did this with my phone.

 

[Yadd of Legends]

I think that's right that different facets have different strengths. Hoping for "legendaries" is not the only reason for doing t maps. Aside from jewels and armor, the right blue scroll can be worth 500k (the cheapest taming scroll of alacrity for sale on Atlantic today is an insane 1.5 M) - not bad for 15 minutes work

 

[HoneythornGump]

Now wait a minute. You just stated that fel loot is "1000 times better" than tram loot, so why are you arguing with his statement that fel t hunt loot is better than tram t hunt loot? Wouldn't you expect that to be true - 65 maps or 100 maps or 1000 maps - since fel loot is 1000 times better than tram loot?Which side of the argument do you want to be on here?

LMAO!
He's called Trollberg for a reason.

 

[Goldberg-Chessy]

Now wait a minute. You just stated that fel loot is "1000 times better" than tram loot, so why are you arguing with his statement that fel t hunt loot is better than tram t hunt loot? Wouldn't you expect that to be true - 65 maps or 100 maps or 1000 maps - since fel loot is 1000 times better than tram loot?Which side of the argument do you want to be on here?

Seriously?
I clearly specified Greater Dragons which I have been doing forever. I believe that makes me knowledgeable enough to make my assertions.
I have never done a t-map but would ofc assume they are comparable.
My point was quite simply that there is no way in the world Honey could intelligently speak about them after only 3-4 days lol.
Re-read my post bud. I never argued whether or not they were better or worse.
Honey, as usual, made an uneducated assumption and I called her out on it. If that bothers you so be it

 

[Yadd of Legends]

OK, got it - Honeythorn says he's a guy, BTW