Legendary Artifacts Drop Rate is Atrocious....

[HoneythornGump]

Let me preface this by saying I have tons of Legendary Artifacts. I have chained Exodus and Osiredon in ad nauseam and stockpiled chests of uber gear. Let me also state that I solo content with 2000+ luck using multiple accounts to maximize the loot table.

That being said, outside of those 2 Bosses (and perhaps a few others I haven't farmed) the vast majority, upwards of 90% of UOs content has little to no chance of dropping Legendary Artifacts. Zip, Zero, Nada...

90% of UOs content is essentially worthless as there is no reward.

After completeing 15 Dreadhorn, 20 Meraktus, and 25 Glade Spawns I received only 0 Legendary Artifacts. That's 60 Peerless/Champion Bosses.

The drop rate on Peerless & Champion Spawns is (expletive) atrocious, and there is no point in doing them when there is zero return.

So we have a game with tons of content yet only 2 Bosses are worthwhile doing and provide a return.

Don't tell me RNG, and don't tell me Peerless equal Crimson Cinture (It's a 1 in 50 - 2% chance) and time would be better served in Blackthorns.

There is something inherently wrong with the way Legendary Artifacts are dropping amongst the vast majority of other bosses.

I find myself stuck in a game where only 2 Bosses in the entire game are worth farming!

How long before I drop dead of boredom?

I'd like to go fight some other bosses and mix things up from time to time but there is absolutely no incentive as the chance for a reward is a big ZERO compared to other bosses (Exodus & Osiredon) where I know the probability of 1 or 2 nice Legendary Artifacts are practically guaranteed.

@Bleak @Kyronix Fix this (expletive)! This is not healthy for the game!

What say you fellow Sosarians?

 

[Smoot]

pretty sure thats how its supposed to be. those 2 bosses are very difficult and were never meant to be farmed. perhaps scalis should only be killable with cannons, and why the exodus bug wasnt fixed in the first week is beyond me. Absolutely no reason those 2 bosses should be that easy to kill.

i agree, a legendary should be just that. something seldom seen. unfortunately the cat was let out of the bag when the devs failed to test these bosses properly.

 

[HoneythornGump]

No one should be going 0-60 on Champion/Peerless Boss.

 

[Smoot]

the best loot ive gotten has been from styngian dragon. crimson / platinum dragons too but they arent normal spawn. this is with 40 - 100 people attacking the mob tho and much of the loot is on the corpse when it goes public. might be another option worth looking at. ive also looted legendaries off of low-ish level spawn during the doom event. got 2 or three during the whole event off rotting corpses. so it is possible to get them off much more than bosses.

 

[Merus]

Exodus has the highest loot table I have seen, but by far the best chance for good major/legendary I have found is Corgul in Fel. 5/6 people attacking it, no party.

My BIGGEST complaint is that champ spawn bosses, particularly Harrower, are vastly underwater on their loot table. As a Fel boss that requires 6 other champs spawns to be done in order to summon him, as well as the risk that goes along with the Fel only encounter, his loot should be the very best in game, bar none.

 

[Zuckuss]

There are two reasons for doing a champ spawn. Power scrolls and pvp. Champs are the only place you can get legendary powerscrolls. Barracoon already too easy to kill. My crew is constantly trying to set the record. We can kill it sooner than two minutes. Big loot should not be on this champ, however they could scale up a bit on the others, not to legendary drops though. Perhaps a 1% chance at a maxed out legendary.

Peerlesses are also easy. Easily soloable by anyone willing to put the time an effort into making a proper template. There are specific items you can only get from them which is what maintains a demand for doing them. I would be up for them creating different drops aside from just the crimmy, the hair dye and the potential high end crafting talisman. Leave the loot alone though.

High end loot should not be soloable and that is the whole point. If you are soloing exodus and getting drops, consider yourself lucky. Sounds like they need to make exodus harder. People being able to farm th best stuff in the game by themself is something that has led to deterioration of the game in several ways.

I am with you on that it couldn't hurt to expand the content to shake thing up a little bit, but sir if you are only playing UO by yourself, that's your problem right there.

 

[Merus]

Exodus is solo-able in less time than Harry, with no risk. Harry should have the better loot.

Difficulty of peerless encounters is a completely different subject.

 

[Ender]

Exodus soloable? I'd be interested in seeing how that's done. I haven't gotten around to trying it with two accounts yet.

 

[HoneythornGump]

A Peerless Boss with 50,000 Hit Points should have a decent chance at dropping a Legendary Artifact.

Same goes for a Champion Boss in which you have to spend a fair amount of time in order to work up the spawn in order to get to the Champion.

Time invested matters just as much as how hard or easy a boss is as far as I'm concerned. Meraktus is no slouch and he doesn't drop a damn thing outside the Tormented Minotaur Statuette, Same goes for Twaulo of the Glade which isn't an easy spawn (time consuming), and outside his Dreadhorn Statuette drops no good items on corpse. It's ridiculous...

90% of UO's 17 year content is virtually obsolete. We have a game in which currently only 2 Bosses are worth spending time on.

Time is the most precious commodity in the universe, and to go 0-60 on the bosses like I did is a waste of my (expletive) time.

Champion spawns may have been for Powerscrolls at one time but the game is absolutely inundated with powerscrolls, as a result the prices on those powerscrolls have plummeted, coupled with the fact that there are no new players coming to UO, hence no new demand, there is very little reason to do Champion Spawns outside of the chance that a Boss could drop a nice Legendary Artifact. I have approximately 1000 120s sitting in books, but guess after 17 years virtually all of my accounts on 4 different shards already completely scrolled out. Plus, I thought the majority of PvP occurs outside a moongate?

@Zuckuss My problem lies with play style being solo? So I should join other players in Hunting, and diminish my chances even more for a quality drop? That's good for a laugh.

I already play in a group/guild...My own with my 5 accounts, and that's how I like it.

All Peerless and Champion Spawn artifacts and drops have become inundated and obsolete due to Legendary Artifacts. Look at Corguls once sought after Ring of the Soul Binder selling for as low as 10M now. All Champion Bosses and Peerless should have a chance to drop a legendary Artifact. If they don't there's absolutely no reason to do them anymore....not after years and years of farming the old, now obsolete, content already.

 

[MalagAste]

A Peerless Boss with 50,000 Hit Points should have a decent chance at dropping a Legendary Artifact.

Same goes for a Champion Boss in which you have to spend a fair amount of time in order to work up the spawn in order to get to the Champion.

Time invested matters just as much as how hard or easy a boss is as far as I'm concerned. Meraktus is no slouch and he doesn't drop a damn thing outside the Tormented Minotaur Statuette, Same goes for Twaulo of the Glade which isn't an easy spawn (time consuming), and outside his Dreadhorn Statuette drops no good items on corpse. It's ridiculous...

90% of UO's 17 year content is virtually obsolete. We have a game in which currently only 2 Bosses are worth spending time on.

Time is the most precious commodity in the universe, and to go 0-60 on the bosses like I did is a waste of my (expletive) time.

Champion spawns may have been for Powerscrolls at one time but the game is absolutely inundated with powerscrolls, as a result the prices on those powerscrolls have plummeted, coupled with the fact that there are no new players coming to UO, hence no new demand, there is very little reason to do Champion Spawns outside of the chance that a Boss could drop a nice Legendary Artifact. I have approximately 1000 120s sitting in books, but guess after 17 years virtually all of my accounts on 4 different shards already completely scrolled out. Plus, I thought the majority of PvP occurs outside a moongate?

@Zuckuss My problem lies with play style being solo? So I should join other players in Hunting, and diminish my chances even more for a quality drop? That's good for a laugh.

I already play in a group/guild...My own with my 5 accounts, and that's how I like it.

All Peerless and Champion Spawn artifacts and drops have become inundated and obsolete due to Legendary Artifacts. Look at Corguls once sought after Ring of the Soul Binder selling for as low as 10M now. All Champion Bosses and Peerless should have a chance to drop a legendary Artifact. If they don't there's absolutely no reason to do them anymore....not after years and years of farming the old, now obsolete, content already.

This is the way things have always been. Those who can't wait to get an item pay ridiculous amounts of gold for them at the start... People who like me are practical will either get it themselves or pay a "normal" price.

 

[Merus]

Exodus soloable? I'd be interested in seeing how that's done. I haven't gotten around to trying it with two accounts yet.

I supposed to be fair, when I say solo-able, I do mean by one person running more than one account. But then, most who routinely do high end encounters are probably running multiple accounts. And to further clarify, this is just multi-clienting, not multi-boxing.

Yes, you can do Exodus with just two characters... which can be done legally by one player with a cross healing UOA macro. Same for Corgul or Scalis (though those two are even easier to bring multiple accounts to since you don't need extra sets of keys). Just finished a solo Corgul run with 4 accounts... takes about the same amount of time as a solo champ spawn (except maybe coon).

 

[Poo]

im still ticked off that they totally nerfed the unbound EV loot.
there was a time when killing those gave you like 4 high end arty and some lesser stuff.
i just went in and killed a couple last week, nothing.
was like 4 lesser magic items.

those buggers need a raise in pay if anyone's due for one.

 

[Lythos-]

I think everything should have a chance at a legendary. Everything. I'm not saying to make it common but at least it would widen the hunting grounds and give players of every skill level a chance.

We have far too many hunting grounds that are completely worthless right now. On top of that I assume there will be even more new lands when this expansion comes out.

 

[HoneythornGump]

I want to add to what Merus is stating about soloing/farming with multiple accounts....

And this is really the crux of the matter that perhaps some players and the Dev team don't realize....

*Drum Roll*

There is virtually no difference in terms of difficulty when doing an Exodus/Osiredon vs. Dreadhorn/Travesty/Rikktor/Meraktus.

Which begs the questions why should one boss drop high end loot and another shouldn't?

Exodus/Osiredon may statistically be more powerful than the other Champions and Peerless, but once you perfect a method of killing boss ABC it's really no different or harder than killing Boss XYZ. Sorry folks, it just isn't...

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but any boss is easy once you figure out "how to do it", and then dial it in. People argue Dreadhorn is easy so he shouldn't drop any loot. We'll guess what...Exodus and Osiredon are just as easy, and they're the only ones consistently dropping Legendary Artifacts.

Makes zero sense...

 

[Ender]

I supposed to be fair, when I say solo-able, I do mean by one person running more than one account. But then, most who routinely do high end encounters are probably running multiple accounts. And to further clarify, this is just multi-clienting, not multi-boxing.

Yes, you can do Exodus with just two characters... which can be done legally by one player with a cross healing UOA macro. Same for Corgul or Scalis (though those two are even easier to bring multiple accounts to since you don't need extra sets of keys). Just finished a solo Corgul run with 4 accounts... takes about the same amount of time as a solo champ spawn (except maybe coon).

Ah see I figured it would be two accounts cross healing. I'm sure I could do that, I'll try it eventually.

 

[NuSair]

90% of UOs content is essentially worthless as there is no reward.

After completeing 15 Dreadhorn, 20 Meraktus, and 25 Glade Spawns I received only 0 Legendary Artifacts. That's 60 Peerless/Champion Bosses.

The drop rate on Peerless & Champion Spawns is (expletive) atrocious, and there is no point in doing them when there is zero return.

One, I want to state that in general, I agree with what you are saying.

Two, I got a legendary artifact off Baracoon today in Tram.

 

[Smoot]

I want to add to what Merus is stating about soloing/farming with multiple accounts....

And this is really the crux of the matter that perhaps some players and the Dev team don't realize....

*Drum Roll*

There is virtually no difference in terms of difficulty when doing an Exodus/Osiredon vs. Dreadhorn/Travesty/Rikktor/Meraktus.

Which begs the questions why should one boss drop high end loot and another shouldn't?

Exodus/Osiredon may statistically be more powerful than the other Champions and Peerless, but once you perfect a method of killing boss ABC it's really no different or harder than killing Boss XYZ. Sorry folks, it just isn't...

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but any boss is easy once you figure out "how to do it", and then dial it in. People argue Dreadhorn is easy so he shouldn't drop any loot. We'll guess what...Exodus and Osiredon are just as easy, and they're the only ones consistently dropping Legendary Artifacts.

Makes zero sense...

id have to argue that exodus is Not as easy as dreadhorn. For one, you cant solo exodus because you need 2 players just to get in.

if you can post a video of Exodus actually being soloed without using the illegal bug i will eat my words.

 

[NuSair]

I supposed to be fair, when I say solo-able, I do mean by one person running more than one account. But then, most who routinely do high end encounters are probably running multiple accounts. And to further clarify, this is just multi-clienting, not multi-boxing.

Yes, you can do Exodus with just two characters... which can be done legally by one player with a cross healing UOA macro. Same for Corgul or Scalis (though those two are even easier to bring multiple accounts to since you don't need extra sets of keys). Just finished a solo Corgul run with 4 accounts... takes about the same amount of time as a solo champ spawn (except maybe coon).

I just solo almost all content one computer, one account. Even the high end stuff.

Honestly, the Shadowlord needs a loot boost too.

 

[HoneythornGump]

I just solo almost all content one computer, one account. Even the high end stuff.

Honestly, the Shadowlord needs a loot boost too.

Don't you have jump through all kinds of hoops to join that encounter? Isn't it a serious time investment? I looked at UOGuide , it appeared there was 10 + things you had to do to get to the Shadow Lords.

Anything that takes some time investment should have the chance to reap some benefits/rewards! This includes Peerless and Champion Spawns!

id have to argue that exodus is Not as easy as dreadhorn. For one, you cant solo exodus because you need 2 players just to get in.

if you can post a video of Exodus actually being soloed without using the illegal bug i will eat my words.

2 Xhealers as mentioned above...

 

[S_S]

Anyone who thinks legendary items are few and far between, isn't doing something right? Every item in this pic is a legendary and for sale currently.

 

[Ender]

Are they all saved up from the last year? lol

Could always share your secrets with someone privately. hint hint

 

[Kuzan]

Exodus soloable? I'd be interested in seeing how that's done. I haven't gotten around to trying it with two accounts yet.

You run him into the north side drop off die or stealth away and come up on. The cliff with thrower or archer

 

[Ender]

Oh that seems glitchy... I may try it anyway. Although I doubt it'd be faster than 2 swordsmen x-healing which was my original plan.

 

[NuSair]

I am willing to try x-healing with you if you want to duo it.

 

[Merus]

Oh that seems glitchy... I may try it anyway. Although I doubt it'd be faster than 2 swordsmen x-healing which was my original plan.

Having 1 with mace fighting helps get his stam down.... Can make things a little easier after the initial attack.

 

[Ender]

Having 1 with mace fighting helps get his stam down.... Can make things a little easier after the initial attack.

I was going to throw hit fatigue on one character, close enough.

I am willing to try x-healing with you if you want to duo it.

I want to try dual clienting it first but I may take you up on that offer eventually. I just have to get the motivation to do it, I've been trying to wait for the expansion to start playing again.

 

[Merus]

I was going to throw hit fatigue on one character, close enough.


I want to try dual clienting it first but I may take you up on that offer eventually. I just have to get the motivation to do it, I've been trying to wait for the expansion to start playing again.

Also, honoring it is a must... With no slayer the fight takes forever without it.

 

[NuSair]

I've been meaning to make a mystic dexer, so, this seems like a good opportunity.

 

[NuSair]

Can it be discorded?

 

[Ender]

No, peace/provo/discord don't work on it. Only use for bard skills there is masteries, which is silly.

 

[Merus]

No, peace/provo/discord don't work on it. Only use for bard skills there is masteries, which is silly.

You might be surprised just how powerful 2 4x120 bards running all 4 peace/provo songs can be. I routinely use my two and can do some of the hardest champs in UO with no healing by any other method.

 

[NuSair]

I have 2 4x120 bards on different accounts I can bring along. Usually, I only bring one thou.

 

[Merus]

All 4 songs from 120 skill bards:

22 hit point regen
22 stamina regen
22 mana regen
60% duration reduction on curses
Poison resistance
30% damage reduction (stacks with swampy)
58% damage increase
15% damage modifier that can exceed the 300% cap
+14 to all stats
+ 26 hit points
22 hit points healed every 4 seconds
HCI & DCI bonuses up to 30%

 

[Merus]

But back on topic, don't think the real issue is the volume of legendary drops... It is their chance to drop being primarily concentrated on only a few mobs. Right now pretty well anyone who wants them is relegated to 1 of about 3 encounters.

 

[Drakelord]

Anyone who thinks legendary items are few and far between, isn't doing something right? Every item in this pic is a legendary and for sale currently.

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Shard? Location of your vendor?

 

[Klapauc]

But back on topic, don't think the real issue is the volume of legendary drops... It is their chance to drop being primarily concentrated on only a few mobs. Right now pretty well anyone who wants them is relegated to 1 of about 3 encounters.

Only real use for them is pvp. Otherwise legendary artifacts are only for bragging rights. No need for them in pvm or something else.
True, you cannot really farm them except from your 3 bosses. But i can assure you, there is quite a good random drop chance from alot of mobs that are soloable without using multiple accounts or exploits.

 

[Merus]

Only real use for them is pvp. Otherwise legendary artifacts are only for bragging rights. No need for them in pvm or something else.
True, you cannot really farm them except from your 3 bosses. But i can assure you, there is quite a good random drop chance from alot of mobs that are soloable without using multiple accounts or exploits.

There are plenty of uses for them. Most of the suits I have remade using them are pvm. Sure, the very top end of them are highly coveted by the pvp crowd (and for good reason).

But in all honesty, your kidding yourself if you think there is any comparison to something like Exodus to virtually any peerless prior to high seas.

 

[Klapauc]

There are plenty of uses for them. Most of the suits I have remade using them are pvm. Sure, the very top end of them are highly coveted by the pvp crowd (and for good reason).

But in all honesty, your kidding yourself if you think there is any comparison to something like Exodus to virtually any peerless prior to high seas.

As i said, bragging rights. There is absolutly zero pvm encounter that cant be done with one account/one char where you would need em. Sure they help building suits , but essential, no.
Old rule of uo, if you dont got items, use brain.

 

[Keith of Sonoma]

Only real use for them is pvp. Otherwise legendary artifacts are only for bragging rights. No need for them in pvm or something else.
True, you cannot really farm them except from your 3 bosses. But i can assure you, there is quite a good random drop chance from alot of mobs that are soloable without using multiple accounts or exploits.

I respectfully disagree. I have incorporated several legendary artifacts into a PvM dexxer suit that (in my opinion) helped me build one with an amazing amount of mods.

 

[Ender]

I would use them in PvM if I could find them

 

[Kurik]

Exodus can be done with one char killing. Takes about 45 minutes and requires a lot of running. ABC archer with resist, bow with high mana leech and hld. Mine is balanced and 40ssi. You need two to get in. My second guy just sits in the corner just in case.

 

[Ender]

45? Seems a bit longer than I'd have thought. Then again that's probably without constant armor ignore.

 

[Kurik]

Yep. You get armor ignore in about every third hit. When you get perfection build up, they do about 200 damage per hit.

 

[Ender]

Oh... I think I'd rather use two accounts and have one using a 100% mana leech sword with AI. Then stick hit mana drain/fatigue weapon on the second account