Idea to stop multiboxing at Shard Events

[Smoot]

@4runnersport

get back to me when your posts have content other than buy/sell or condemning other opinions.

End of discussion. It has been fun, but this thread was about whether multiboxing is good or bad for the game.

 

[4runnersport]

Your a lil firecracker when you get going. I have kinda missed that since I been working so much overtime last few months. Here I will give you a few likes on here to make you feel better about yourself. Maybe it will help you be a lil more positive toward the game on the forums but I doubt it. To Hazel sorry for sidetracking the thread I just wanted to point out few things to smoot. She gets bent out of shape pretty easy

 

[King Greg]

Banning 100,000 Accounts for six months in wow would probably be the equivalent of banning less than 100 accounts in UO.

 

[4runnersport]

Banning 100,000 Accounts for six months in wow would probably be the equivalent of banning less than 100 accounts in UO.

That's correct if its even that many uo accounts. Not saying I agree with using 3rd party programs but at this point if they banned everyone that uses them (not just event goers) then UO would be gone so be glad they don't unless you don't want to play anymore and if that's the case just quit

 

[Smoot]

Banning 100,000 Accounts for six months in wow would probably be the equivalent of banning less than 100 accounts in UO.

Im not one for swing the ban-hammer recklessly, i dont want to see anyone banned if possible. I do think that even 1 perma-ban here and there would probably be enough of a risk to offset the benefits of using programs like these. it probably wouldnt take much, just a little something to keep things from running rampant.

The point of bannings has always been more of a deterrent rather than an end all solution.

 

[Nexus]

That's correct if its even that many uo accounts. Not saying I agree with using 3rd party programs but at this point if they banned everyone that uses them (not just event goers) then UO would be gone so be glad they don't unless you don't want to play anymore and if that's the case just quit

That's true but you know there are times when I feel it would be better for them to just pull the plug than let the game go through this slow attrition. I'd call it a mercy killing.

 

[Captn Norrington]

well, all i have to say is, im the 7th most "liked" poster on stratics. Yes, this seems to be the perfect opportunity to flaunt that So whatever i say, people do seem to like it. that seems pretty positive *shrugs*

And I'm the 4th most liked poster. What does that tell you?

Well, since we are listing our like rankings, I'm the #1 most "liked" poster on Stratics. I believe I have won this competition friends

 

[4runnersport]

That's true but you know there are times when I feel it would be better for them to just pull the plug than let the game go through this slow attrition. I'd call it a mercy killing.

Maybe true but if its making the game that bad for people its prolly time they call it quits and not wait for the game to do it. All the doom and gloom threads isn't gonna help unless it just feels good to post the game is gonna end soon :/

And if your gonna ban 1 person every now and then how do you chose what person? Is it fair to know about 90% of the players that cheat but only punish a few? Only punish the ones at events or idocs? I just wanna know how does 1 decide without doing a mass ban which is the most fair way to handle that which will defiantly kill the game.

 

[WootSauce]

That's true but you know there are times when I feel it would be better for them to just pull the plug than let the game go through this slow attrition. I'd call it a mercy killing.

Man you are on a roll tonight! So much positive community stuff going on here!

 

[Jirel of Joiry]

blizzard bans
http://www.pcgamer.com/blizzard-bans-more-than-100000-world-of-warcraft-accounts/

Broadsword/EA should grow a set of stones and do the same. If they can't grow a set of their own then borrow Blizzard's.

4 years ago they gave me a 24 hr ban for standing up for myself, my sister, our guild, and others when a noxious, cheatin', no account
jackarse cussed us ten ways to Sunday in general chat. Yes we put him on ignore. SEVEN characters of his I put on ignore before I got fed up.
As fast as we'd put him on ignore he'd get on another character. This brayin' jackarse had been banned several times and kept coming back on the same characters. I told him off, I shouldn't have said some of the things I did, but I am NOT SORRY. The saddest part was this happened during an event, the EMs were cussed out by this raging jackarse and helpless to do anything about it.

Paging a GM was worthless, except when HE paged on me. I did my 24 hr bid. I'm still here playing UO, he's not. I believe he was caught duping again and perma-banned. He was a known duper and had a dupe house at yew gate that recently fell. Mesanna knew about him; instead of banning him she changed his locked down piles of duped robes into plain robes. If you played Legends longer than two years you KNOW of whom I speak.

If she'd had the stones to perma ban him, heck I'd been agreeable to one month's ban time. I guess what I'm trying to say is if they'd dealt early on with problem people then you'd still have more players, then to let em stay, run off a bunch of players and then ban them. If I had a million gold for every time I have heard of someone that quit because of cheating and general greifer/bullyish behavior. I'd be the first UO Trillionaire. LOL

Let it be known I have NEVER cheated, duped, or done anything illegal in 14 years of playing UO!

 

[Uvtha]

At meeting area

1. Have a special item to "CLICK ON" to enter special area.

2. This would take you to another random passage way, one of many, where you have to pass thru individually. (it could have timer where you have to cross into next area within 10 seconds or so, or be booted out)

3. At the end of this area, there would be another item (fence gate, like at one of the current Champs) and this would take you to main event area.

4. Event area has "...special rules set..." like VvV towns.

5. PROHIBIT the use of "auto follow" command. NOT just the controls CTRL, left click as it is now, but the whole command because keystrokes can be changed.

The multiple clicking mentioned, is used to make each character click to break the "auto follow"


Have constructive comments, ideas, additions? COPY and PASTE and insert them. Or post your own.

Stop giving out rares! Problem solved.

 

[Uvtha]

Broadsword/EA should grow a set of stones and do the same. If they can't grow a set of their own then borrow Blizzard's.

UO's equivalent of WoW's banning 100k accounts would be banning like 200 people. I'm not even exaggerating, do the math. Plus those weren't even perma bans.

UO doesn't have the numbers to start banning people in the 1000's. Might as well just end the game.

 

[Lt.Snuggles]

why does everyone want to end the game!! this game is love.

and all blizzard did was give the people who got banned a reason to improve their product.. it's a give and take game, thats why we love it.

 

[Nexus]

why does everyone want to end the game!! this game is love.

and all blizzard did was give the people who got banned a reason to improve their product.. it's a give and take game, thats why we love it.

Well I'd say it's not for a dislike for the game. But for me for all the years I've been part of the UO community watching the slow degradation in support, and the growth of rampant extremely visible and often vocally confirmed cheating leave a sense of regret, and pity when I see how great the title once was. Allowing the game to pass on into the void of closed titles, while there is some dignity left to it, in regards to how it is perceived seems better than continuing to watch the path it is on. I keep my accounts active simply due to hoping something will happen to restore a portion of that lost dignity but days, weeks, months etc. continue on and that hope consistently dwindles.

You could say it's actually a love of the game that is why some question if it's time to pull the plug, so the memories of it are not tarnished any further.

 

[Lord Frodo]

Yes and they are the ones I have to constantly keep putting on ignore as I get tired of their banter about what they are going to do to someones mother or how the other person is such a whatever.... I don't want to repeat it... all day .... all night in General Chat.... because that sort of social behavior isn't toxic or anti-social.

You don't see PvMers in Gen Chat verbally harassing one another. Nor do you see home decorators doing that.

And Yes I'm sorry I shouldn't generalize. And I do apologize for that. I have known some rather nice PvPers.

BUT BUT BUT This is where PvP is done now or didn't you know that.

 

[Lord Frodo]

And I'm the 4th most liked poster. What does that tell you?

That you have more bogus accounts than Smoot does. JK

 

[Lord Frodo]

Well, since we are listing our like rankings, I'm the #1 most "liked" poster on Stratics. I believe I have won this competition friends

OMG How many Stratic Accounts do you have? But then again he is a MOD so he can fix his own account. JK

 

[Lt.Snuggles]

Well I'd say it's not for a dislike for the game. But for me for all the years I've been part of the UO community watching the slow degradation in support, and the growth of rampant extremely visible and often vocally confirmed cheating leave a sense of regret, and pity when I see how great the title once was. Allowing the game to pass on into the void of closed titles, while there is some dignity left to it, in regards to how it is perceived seems better than continuing to watch the path it is on. I keep my accounts active simply due to hoping something will happen to restore a portion of that lost dignity but days, weeks, months etc. continue on and that hope consistently dwindles.

You could say it's actually a love of the game that is why some question if it's time to pull the plug, so the memories of it are not tarnished any further.

i understand you 100% on that note good sir. but! let uo live on!

 

[PlayerSkillFTW]

Simple. Make an event monster with an ability that applies a debuff to someone that causes damage to everyone else near them, and have the monster specifically target clumped up players with it. Multiboxer has all their chars clumped together, event monster hits one of his clumped chars with the debuff, all of his chars die because they can't get away from each other.

 

[Tanivar]

Hasn't UO been dieing since the creation of Trammel in 2000? It's death was a sure thing blathered about in these forums since I started playing UO:Ren fall of that year. It's now nearly 15 years later folks, I doubt UO will die until the devs we have can't make the clients work with some future version of Windows. Until then, play the parts of the game you find fun, and just avoid the things that you don't find fun.

 

[Goldberg-Chessy]

Broadsword/EA should grow a set of stones and do the same. If they can't grow a set of their own then borrow Blizzard's.

4 years ago they gave me a 24 hr ban for standing up for myself, my sister, our guild, and others when a noxious, cheatin', no account
jackarse cussed us ten ways to Sunday in general chat. Yes we put him on ignore. SEVEN characters of his I put on ignore before I got fed up.
As fast as we'd put him on ignore he'd get on another character. This brayin' jackarse had been banned several times and kept coming back on the same characters. I told him off, I shouldn't have said some of the things I did, but I am NOT SORRY. The saddest part was this happened during an event, the EMs were cussed out by this raging jackarse and helpless to do anything about it.

Paging a GM was worthless, except when HE paged on me. I did my 24 hr bid. I'm still here playing UO, he's not. I believe he was caught duping again and perma-banned. He was a known duper and had a dupe house at yew gate that recently fell. Mesanna knew about him; instead of banning him she changed his locked down piles of duped robes into plain robes. If you played Legends longer than two years you KNOW of whom I speak.

If she'd had the stones to perma ban him, heck I'd been agreeable to one month's ban time. I guess what I'm trying to say is if they'd dealt early on with problem people then you'd still have more players, then to let em stay, run off a bunch of players and then ban them. If I had a million gold for every time I have heard of someone that quit because of cheating and general greifer/bullyish behavior. I'd be the first UO Trillionaire. LOL

Let it be known I have NEVER cheated, duped, or done anything illegal in 14 years of playing UO!

Hrmmm, I think whatever you did to get the 24 hour ban you referenced was illegal so the above statement appears to be false.
No offense but you appear to have quite a history of stooping to the level of the lowest people around you.
Based upon many of your previous posts on these boards, one might say you are a magnet of sorts...

 

[Angel of Sonoma]

you know...looking at the number of posts & views to this thread, i'd hope that the devs would take notice and DO SOMETHING.

 

[Lord Frodo]

Hasn't UO been dieing since the creation of Trammel in 2000? It's death was a sure thing blathered about in these forums since I started playing UO:Ren fall of that year. It's now nearly 15 years later folks, I doubt UO will die until the devs we have can't make the clients work with some future version of Windows. Until then, play the parts of the game you find fun, and just avoid the things that you don't find fun.

NO UO has been dieing almost from day one and never expected to last much longer than a year. Subs went up after Tram all the way to AoS (Age of $hit).

 

[Ox AO]

[QUOTE="Multiboxer has all their chars clumped together.[/QUOTE]

Very often I do not. remember I play each character separately. Only when I need to move a good distance do they clearly move together.

 

[Jirel of Joiry]

NO UO has been dieing almost from day one and never expected to last much longer than a year. Subs went up after Tram all the way to AoS (Age of $hit).

ROTFLOL I thought I was the only one that called AoS that!!!

 

[Lord Frodo]

ROTFLOL I thought I was the only one that called AoS that!!!

I have been calling AoS Age of $hit from day one. Turned UO into an item based game and took the true meaning out of PvP. Now it is Item/Suit v Item/Suit

 

[Goldberg-Chessy]

I was also not a huge fan of AOS in general but I have never really understand the random it 'ruined pvp' mentality.
Suits are suits. Serious pvpers will always take the time and effort to make the best ones so all other things being equal, the suit really makes little or no difference at all.
Pre AOS suits were little more than GM pieces of leather that were as much about appearance as function and weren't really a factor so everyone was equal.
Today they are crazy and full of mods but as everyone who pvps has easy access to them so they are basically nothing more than standard gear and again not really a deciding factor.
People adapt their style to their gear and simply pvp. Nothing's ruined.
If you want to talk about something taking the true meaning out of pvp you really should start with special moves such as disarm and dismount. Anything that promotes ganking is by nature bad for pvp. One by one you discourage the skilled solo players from wanting to participate and possibly group up down the road.
It is to the point now that todays most active pvpers are completely unable to 1 vs 1 anymore and when asked will bail out by saying that 1 vs 1 is not a measure of skill lol. Than they go around in huge numbers trying to gank the few solo players left while hi-fiving each other. Sad but true story on Atl and Cats soon I hear.

I personally believe that most of the people whining about AOS ruining pvp are simply the less skilled pre AOS pvpers that just were not able to adapt so they gave it up and decided to blame it on the devs.

 

[Jirel of Joiry]

I was also not a huge fan of AOS in general but I have never really understand the random it 'ruined pvp' mentality.
Suits are suits. Serious pvpers will always take the time and effort to make the best ones so all other things being equal, the suit really makes little or no difference at all.
Pre AOS suits were little more than GM pieces of leather that were as much about appearance as function and weren't really a factor so everyone was equal.
Today they are crazy and full of mods but as everyone who pvps has easy access to them so they are basically nothing more than standard gear and again not really a deciding factor.
People adapt their style to their gear and simply pvp. Nothing's ruined.
If you want to talk about something taking the true meaning out of pvp you really should start with special moves such as disarm and dismount. Anything that promotes ganking is by nature bad for pvp. One by one you discourage the skilled solo players from wanting to participate and possibly group up down the road.
It is to the point now that todays most active pvpers are completely unable to 1 vs 1 anymore and when asked will bail out by saying that 1 vs 1 is not a measure of skill lol. Than they go around in huge numbers trying to gank the few solo players left while hi-fiving each other. Sad but true story on Atl and Cats soon I hear.

I personally believe that most of the people whining about AOS ruining pvp are simply the less skilled pre AOS pvpers that just were not able to adapt so they gave it up and decided to blame it on the devs.

Mine has NOTHING to do with pvp. lol My hate for AoS is the fact that for quite a while after its release I would get blackholed repeatedly. At one point I recalled to Brit Bank I could see everyone there, but they couldn't see me. I was there but I wasn't there. Paged a GM and they couldn't find the problem. All of these problems and I was still playing on dial-up because I live in rural area(we didn't get hi-speed until 2008). I hated the "globalization" and the taking away of item id and items with magic charges.

No one is going to love every single thing about every expansion, I'm sure there are things about other expansion people don't like. For me I just found AoS exasperating, kind of like Windows ME. At least our Devs made AoS tolerable, Microsoft had to "shoot" ME and put it out of everyone's misery. lol

 

[Zosimus]

Well you all can look at it this way.....

It's working as intended!

Then again I think men who have mustaches are just wearing a shirt for their upper lip.

 

[Yadd of Legends]

I agree with most of what you say except you referencing pvpers and pk'ers as "antisocial creepers"

It is offensive and incorrect to boot.

Pvp'ers and pk'ers are quite social by nature as they need other players to attack.
And they are for sure both 100x more social than the real creepers who spend most of their time wandering around their pixel houses locking and unlocking decos all day. The solo pvm'ers who spend all their time alone in a dungeon are also antisocial but imo not creepy like the house deco peeps.

I'm liking this not to defend PVPers or PKErs, since I don't PVP. But since I spend most of my time creeping around dungeons, I guess I am an ''antisocial creeper'' lol, a new word for me to play with