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I like your idea.. They should make the game free to play but charge Real money for "Housing Rent" Larger the house more money you pay a month! ^^
Small house $1
Medium house $5
Large house $10
Tower / Keep $15
Castle $20
Game Changer! ^^
Pointing out that your idea isn't a good one isn't rude or negative. It's honest and realistic. If you don't want honest and realistic critique then don't post
Very little can save UO now and the only way imo is if EA have a total change of heart and decide to invest in UO, which is unlikely to happen or if it goes F2P which again EA seems to have little appetite for.
Good luck with your little crusade but it solves nothing.
Yep. That pretty much is it.
OK lets dumb it down.
There is the ability to cross shards
The game can take account what the character wears. Is in their bankbox and back pack. And their stable count and pet count.
New shard called Yadiloh. Free transfer there and but to standard shards through and Slip Gate. Slip Gate only allows naked, backpack and bankbox clean, petless characters cross. There would be an NPC that can alter basic no mod caster books to be altered to be allowed to cross.
Yadiloh area would not have the uper half of any the crafting runics be as a reward. Yadiloh would also need it's spawn to have a much reduced grade of loot or not even the revamped loot but still have chance for neg mods for high point loot. Yadiloh would need to be only basic landmass with the hidden lands or even something completely new. No need for players to get spread out. There are no stables on Yadiloh. instead there are Barns for new area pet line.
This could be the smaller bucket of fish for new players to start in or where a newly created character could start at. Housing placement will be allowed for characters on an account with no house on the non siege rules set shards. And only characters created on Yadiloh may place a house in it's lands.
Yadiloh would have a fel rules set with more guardzones. GZ for upper level dungeons and maybe some open air event areas.
Apon...............door may add more later.
There is the ability to cross shards
The game can take account what the character wears. Is in their bankbox and back pack. And their stable count and pet count.
New shard called Yadiloh. Free transfer there and but to standard shards through and Slip Gate. Slip Gate only allows naked, backpack and bankbox clean, petless characters cross. There would be an NPC that can alter basic no mod caster books to be altered to be allowed to cross.
Yadiloh area would not have the uper half of any the crafting runics be as a reward. Yadiloh would also need it's spawn to have a much reduced grade of loot or not even the revamped loot but still have chance for neg mods for high point loot. Yadiloh would need to be only basic landmass with the hidden lands or even something completely new. No need for players to get spread out. There are no stables on Yadiloh. instead there are Barns for new area pet line.
This could be the smaller bucket of fish for new players to start in or where a newly created character could start at. Housing placement will be allowed for characters on an account with no house on the non siege rules set shards. And only characters created on Yadiloh may place a house in it's lands.
Yadiloh would have a fel rules set with more guardzones. GZ for upper level dungeons and maybe some open air event areas.
Apon...............door may add more later.
WHYS WEEES NEEDS MORE LAND MASS?
LOST LANDS SO UNDER USED
LOST LANDS SO UNDER USED
Is it really that hard to understand?
Yes, I'm talking of messing with Fel as it currently exists on each shard.
That should resolve all doubts.
With removing Fel in mean either one of two possible solutions:
Either delete every single Felucca instance on each shard, the "pooof-everything-gone"-thingy, including all grandfathered houses, etc. Then we can rename Trammel back to Britannia again. (Yeah, this is the hardcore-version)
Or change the ruleset to a Trammel-ruleset, effectively removing VvV, Champ Spawns (or at least power scroll drops), etc... (This would most probably be easier to digest for the majority)
Nevertheless, once you can't PvP anymore on an ordinary shard, create a new shard with just a single Landmass: Britannia, Felucca ruleset. With VvV, Champ Spawns & Power Scrolls. Allow unlimited and unrestricted char transfer to that shard and back to the home shard of that character (just that one shard, you came from).
Since the average PvPer usually complains about ping, one shard would have to be created for each region, there would be a west coast felucca, east coast felucca, european felucca, etc.
That would put all PvPer of a certain region into a single shard/landmass. Because what the average PvPer really needs is other players, who he can fight. That would solve it.
And the best thing of all this is, the average PvEer would not be pesterd anymore with the stupid smack talk, which is going on 24/7 in general chat...
Got it now? Does that mean, I'll get the pointless UO history lesson now?
In a way it must be kinda cool being so blissfully ignorant of what's going on around you
1) What do you know of actual, current pvp? Anything at all? Do you actively pvp now or have you in the past 12 months regularly?
2) Felucca and all its houses, etc.. have been around long before anything else on any other facet.
3) Almost all pvpers do not live in Felucca simply to pvp there. They live there because that is where they started and that is where the only excitement left in the game exists.
4) PvEer's/Trammys can mindlessly fight their non exciting and mindless ai monsters anywhere. They don't need anything special and have no actual shard history at all since their facet is actually just a clone of the original Felucca so their land masses should be the ones wiped in your ridiculous scenario imo.
5) PvEer's/House Decorators *see above
To sum up:
You have absolutely zero actual knowledge of Felucca or what goes on in Felucca yet you are trying to explain to us how best to serve it's citizens?
That is naïve and laughable imo
It is a new shard ideal with a alien land. They have proven that they can do a shard that is completely different. Just a new shard that can be crossed to without all that old shard SWAG. New treasures could be fought for or over for by most players with a good connection and a non antique system. A land where a new player doesn't have to play catch up so much and crafters are golden. And new unique SWAG can be be brought back to there home shards. I would cross to hunt for a chance at a studded tunic Imbue strength to 550 with 300 luck and 20 Animal Lore. Be the type of rare drop earned there. Few mod arty with the ability to Imbue.
Could even have that orc race that can only be had by characters created there. Orcish race can only place houses there. And no race change. Could have that new character slot that can be only started in the new land. $$$$$$$$$$
Really the only way to get things going again with much advertizing and hype. For a resurge of new and returning players. A promise for an agressive policing of the game (there is a huge adult gamer population out there). Small time frame where old account can be recycled based of all they can stuff in the trash can and the house they have (Historic bonus). Reduce the ease of earning things and reduce the solo BS of uber creatures. Maybe launch the new POV UO with the best of graphics. WIPE THE SLATE AND START OVER AGAIN.
UO is akin to a classic car. Comes to the point where it is not worth saving due to rot and abuse and past poor fixes. Sure could slap some new crap on it and call it a ratrod. Just doesn't get the same respect. We need a new retro version of UO that old players can tell the stories how UO was a walk up hill both directions in the snow.
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I'd like to see Broadsword give every player character a transfer token locked to them to use to move to a new shard if they want to. You could transfer to Siege and Mugan as well, though only items would go, absolutely no gold, with the option of only the items going, the character staying on prodo, for those already having a character on Siege or Mugan. I'd love the option to move all my years of prodo deco to where I live now, which is Siege. It's value would drop dramatically but I'll accept that. I want all the deco, something Siege has little of I've found.
I know one single fact about PvP:In a way it must be kinda cool being so blissfully ignorant of what's going on around you
1) What do you know of actual, current pvp? Anything at all? Do you actively pvp now or have you in the past 12 months regularly?
To fight another player, you need another player. Simple as that. The more, the better.
So, you want to tell me, for PvP economy, it is better to spread the player base across multiple shards instead of a single one?
Maybe you didn't read or fully understand my post, but there's also the possibility, to convert it to tram ruleset and it can exist further.
The "do not live in Felucca simply to pvp there" part doesn't really make sense in context with the "where the only excitement left in the game exists". What's the difference between fel & tram, if you don't PvP in fel? A silver cursor instead of a golden one? No foilage on the trees?
PvEer's/Trammys saved your game, otherwise EA would have pulled the plug long ago...
I wouldn't say, that I have zero actual knowledge. My tower is placed there. And, not always though, I hunt and farm there, because of doubled resources or luck bonus...
So yeah, I can and do state my opinion. Like everybody can, who plays the game, regardless if he ever set a foot on felucca or not...
Agreed!!!! we dont need more land/shards...we need less
NO GOBLIN RACE
Shard mergers wont happen. To many people who don't posts but playing the game would just quit.
It's possible to do shard mergers ( still not sure if he was more leaning to clusters like in DaoC) because Supreme even said it could be done over a year and not a peep out of the devs.
For any shard the easiest and quickest way to bring life back into dead, mid or high populated shards falls on the devs shoulders.
1) Do weekly invasions on different cities.
2) Make a dungeon day. Pick a day and dungeon and add higher chances for high end loot to be obtainable. Can be done 1/2/3/4 times a month.
3) Make tok arties permanent in the game and can be used in turn in points if needed or museum donations.
4) Double imbuing ingredients Abyss day. Once a month.
5) Make cities viable again by allowing players to rent out housing places or an apartment for players that have chars on multiple shards can use as some storage but have to pay a weekly rent. This would help out more the single account player to develop chars on all shards and be active in any community with a little place to call home under rent and like 125 item storage.
6) Random Harrower spawns in any lands and loot is stat scrolls. Can be spawned anywhere ( not announced so has to be found randomly) and up to the devs how many times a month they would do this. Imagine a paragon Harrower in Ilsh.
7) Allow players to contribute resources to cities to change or grow in looks. Just like upgrading them in a sense.
It's possible to do shard mergers ( still not sure if he was more leaning to clusters like in DaoC) because Supreme even said it could be done over a year and not a peep out of the devs.
For any shard the easiest and quickest way to bring life back into dead, mid or high populated shards falls on the devs shoulders.
1) Do weekly invasions on different cities.
2) Make a dungeon day. Pick a day and dungeon and add higher chances for high end loot to be obtainable. Can be done 1/2/3/4 times a month.
3) Make tok arties permanent in the game and can be used in turn in points if needed or museum donations.
4) Double imbuing ingredients Abyss day. Once a month.
5) Make cities viable again by allowing players to rent out housing places or an apartment for players that have chars on multiple shards can use as some storage but have to pay a weekly rent. This would help out more the single account player to develop chars on all shards and be active in any community with a little place to call home under rent and like 125 item storage.
6) Random Harrower spawns in any lands and loot is stat scrolls. Can be spawned anywhere ( not announced so has to be found randomly) and up to the devs how many times a month they would do this. Imagine a paragon Harrower in Ilsh.
7) Allow players to contribute resources to cities to change or grow in looks. Just like upgrading them in a sense.
Some good ideas there and Id like to see them implemented as they stand on their own merits outside of the context of this thread. However, yet again all we are trying to do is push the ever decreasing playerbase together in small areas of the game. This just gives the appearance of 'busy', but whilst those players are in the same area, other areas are even more desolate.
None of this solves anything and is only wallpapering over the cracks. we need new players. Lots of them. The only way this will happen is F2P. Do this and shard mergers or bringing dead shards back to life wont even be a topic for discussion. Instead we will be seeing new shards open, with players there to fill them. UO will once again be a thriving game, not a dying one.
Trouble with F2P ( actually Fees to Play) is that it would cost more to do well in this game than the $13 a month subscription costs it does now. Fee to Play games quarter & dollar you to death if you want to actually compete in an F2P game.
Too bad all the museum houses get put on a shard itself. Would be kind of cool to see all the cool items and things from present and past all on one shard and still be able to play etc as usual if wanted. (its late here, and i come up with weird ideas) lol Its late because..... lol I am still tryin to get my plants I love the plants this year I have met some cool people along the way to the other shards clickie Peace, and dam THP try to relax....lol
I love the plants this year I have met some cool people along the way to the other shards clickie Peace, and dam THP try to relax....lol
Be careful Philly lol.
If you disagree with the OP he doesn't seem to take it too well.
He starts a thread asking for comments and feedback and then gets immediately personal if all the comments and feedback are not in complete accordance with his OP.
It's kind of amusing for a bit but after 75 posts and a few days with absolutely no actual input or data to support the wisp of a bad idea it gets tiring.
That's when you realize that you have once again been THP'ed and vow to never let it happen again
Although you're absolutely right with new players, it is not going to happen. Regardless, of how good the game is, you need a state of the art client in terms of usability, stability, performance and presentation (yeah, that's the graphics part). In 2015 lots of things are already defacto-standard, which the average player expects. So, when coming out on steam, I'm sure, we'll attract new players, but it will be far from the numbers we could get, if our client would look and feel like i.e. the Diablo 3 client (just a random example).
F2P is an extremely misleading term. It is no free. Someone has to pay. Which then effectively means, that F2P is a business model and your game has to support that model. Looking at the origin store as of right now, I don't belive, that the income from items sold there could replace the income from a monthly fee. Maybe at some point UO will be ready to be F2P, but definitely not in the near future.
I agree with a lot of that. F2P is never really free. Its an option and Im sure some people do play these F2P games without forking out a penny. Good for them. People will however pay to play (either in micro transactions or a small monthly fee) for 'extras' if they feel they are getting value for money, a good customer service, and enjoying themselves. Many games thrive on this concept.
Where I'd disagree is the graphics. Take Runescape as an example. I pulled up some stats for last year which said the high scores table showed 600k+ members (ie paying) A poll in game got nearly 500k votes. Concurrent players around the 80k mark. Their graphics are worse than UO's but they put it to shame in many respects with player numbers (and paying players to boot). If the right investment with the right F2P model was brought into UO I have no doubt whatsoever that it would bring in players, a lot of whom would pay if they got customner service, content, and value for money.
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I think that the OP's idea is a good one, but I still see flaws in this. Now the imagination of this concept is amazing. I find it fascinating that your mind is unique. I am guessing that you have had your fair share of time as a dungeon master. I think that if you took out the trade portion it would be very solid. Only items that come back are one that are looted by the player. People with multiple accounts would have an unfair advantage over the rest. This would make it easier for people to capitalize on wealth, and it would eventually kill the sale of the transfer token.
I only have 2 posts here on stratics but I have been playing off and on since late 99. I never played wow or eq. I found that uo was the most superior mmorpg ever designed. The only flaw was the graphics, but the storyline, gameplay, and skill set up was by far the best. The better eq and wow graphics were not enough to entice me to play them.
Merging shards will take too many resources to accomplish. That is a big task. It could also cause end users to leave due to instability.
I just don't want the inflation rate to cause new players to not play. To be honest I would be very intimidated as a new player with the prices of everything. The new players should start off with much more thank 1k gold. The inflation rate has risen much more than 10% from the time when we received 100 gold.
I also think that new accounts should automatically get a small stone house, chest, and items pertaining to the skills they have chosen.
I want the people whom put in the time be rewarded, but to see the uo economy turn into the real world economy is kind of tough on newer players.
Sorry I was a little bit off topic.
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I also do not miss the days of waiting in line for spawns and massive lag spikes. Plus it wouldn't work due to the housing factor alone.
I guess the desire by certain groups of folks/guilds to bleed the dead shards champ spawns etc etc '' un-opposed'' then transfer there booty back to another shard makes this a non-starter...Greed yet again wins the day.....
Shame i kinda still see UO as a MMORPG .....and NOT a..... 4 player playstation game!!!!! which is basically whats happening .....[whatever]
Shame i kinda still see UO as a MMORPG .....and NOT a..... 4 player playstation game!!!!! which is basically whats happening .....[whatever]
I think this is the direction UO should go but I'd base it more directly on UO fiction and call this heart of shards, Ultima Prime or the True Universe. Run an arc of events on all shards that finally opens up the multiverse to the "world its was reflected".
I'd prefer a large continous land/water mass rather then gate access to other lands "Tokuno, Umbra, Ish, etc" Moongates that connect Britannian cities would remain. Update Haven and make that entire area trammal ruleset with its own beginners dungeon. Make the rest of the World the Fel ruleset (because there is no trammal in prime) but allow small 7x7 housing within the towns and expand the guardzones - Luna to the outer wall for instance. All towns to their respective moongates.
Allow one character per account on the Prime World with three soulstones. This provides players some diversity in play but will also make them reliant on others [no more let me get on my smith, let me grab my tamer, let me get my dexxer, let me get my.....]
This allows vets to come into the new land with advantages of knowledge and skill but resets the economy and puts everyone on much more equal footing. Provides a place for new and old to mingle and a world for vets to explore. Almost every expansion to this point has thinned the community, and decreased player interaction by increasing the need to grind.
Launch the Prime shard and steam access together while at the same time making UO free to play on the original shards but a sub would be required to have a housing on any shard and access to all but Haven area on the Prime World.
Advantages of playing on the Prime World would be more in game events, better GM support, start with 260 stats, 740 skill cap and a level playing field.
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This is not UO....on a quite shard .. the un-opposed farming may as well be played on a playstation..with no interaction with any other players apart form geeky guild mates.....as good as..seroiusly the folks doing this....are u really happy doing a playstation rpg in 4 player mode...jesus.....
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This is offtopic, but I'm so glad if this is the present approach of the mod team: Seems you actually remove silly posts rather than lock the whole damn thread like in olden days. So much better this way. Cheers o/\o
Its not greed to want to be able to do a spawn without getting raided. There is nothing wrong with the solo player being able to get the same rewards as a guild who do nothing but raid champs just as the champ is about to die. The fact you dont particiapte in champ spwans tells me you have more to say about other peoples games style than you should. In all the year i have seen you play on Europa I dont recal you ever doing champ spawns. So maybe you should just keep your nose out of other peoples game styles and just worry about your own. While im on the subject of your game style, i do recal you doing Idocs on other/dead shards and brigning the loot back to Europa, double standards ?
Seriously?
A few people in this thread say that they enjoy the peace and quiet on the slow shard they have most likely inhabited for many years and you jump to the conclusion that they are simply greedy and not true MMORPG'ers?
Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds?
Because they don't instantly and whole heartedly agree with your idea and want things to stay as they are on their home shard you start calling them names?
Did you not start this thread by saying "Be constructive people" ??
Do you know the meaning of the phrase 'be constructive'?
Let's not forget that the very first person in this thread that disagreed with you was met with ridicule by you. I believe you called him a "typical vet" and also said to him "this is a WE vame not a I came"
Your grammar is very poor but I believe you were calling him selfish no?
What is most ironic though is that you now seem to have issue with people being able to do champ spawns and then transfer off the loot?
In the current system at least those without shard shields have to pay for the privilege of doing this. And those with shard shields can only do it monthly.
Your proposed wisp of a bad idea would let them endlessly do it for free. 4x quicker even then you could do with shard shields if my math is correct.
If I didn't know any better I would think that you in fact are looking for a way to hit up a slower shard so maybe you can dry loot it and bring your pixel goodies back to your almost as slow shard cheaper and quicker than using shard shields.
It is well documented how upset you were when they changed idoc rules and you couldn't so easily camp houses anymore to scoop up long gone players left over possessions. Only to then take them back to your home shard.
You aren't fooling me bud
bottom line we need less land mass not more.....that can only happen one way...shut down some low population shards...period! There can be no debate on this.
Yes some people will quit....but then you drop the paid subscription based business model and switch to F2P and you will fill the remaining Shards with people.
You can add invasions...and make some shards...pvp based and others event based...etc. But none of that matters frankly. The important thing is to fix the UO store and add some people that have a clue about how to sell items that players want and need. The market exists for F2P, there are already people who spend a ton of cash on item and resources.
With the change to global bank boxes and the removal of the cheque based system....it would be very very easy for UO store to sell Gold to players. It would be soooooo easy for UO in increase a global bank accountbalances based on the proceeds of a Store sale. Resources...pinks...blues..stat and PS sell right now on third party sites....they should be sold by the company selling the game!
Just like today...those who dont want to use rl cash can farm or use the in game vendor system....but those that choose to can and often all ready use third party brokers who sell items for rl cash! Broadsword just needs to capitalize on that market.....and they could do away with subscriptions tomorrow.
Most F2P models exist on a small number of players that are willing to spend RL cash for items. When you increase the population by a factor of 50 or 100 the amount of players willing to spend cash goes up as well!
This is really a no brainer...everything is in place except the improved UO store. in a few months you couple double and triple the present revenue stream from subscriptions....and it would only go up from there.
Yes some people will quit....but then you drop the paid subscription based business model and switch to F2P and you will fill the remaining Shards with people.
You can add invasions...and make some shards...pvp based and others event based...etc. But none of that matters frankly. The important thing is to fix the UO store and add some people that have a clue about how to sell items that players want and need. The market exists for F2P, there are already people who spend a ton of cash on item and resources.
With the change to global bank boxes and the removal of the cheque based system....it would be very very easy for UO store to sell Gold to players. It would be soooooo easy for UO in increase a global bank accountbalances based on the proceeds of a Store sale. Resources...pinks...blues..stat and PS sell right now on third party sites....they should be sold by the company selling the game!
Just like today...those who dont want to use rl cash can farm or use the in game vendor system....but those that choose to can and often all ready use third party brokers who sell items for rl cash! Broadsword just needs to capitalize on that market.....and they could do away with subscriptions tomorrow.
Most F2P models exist on a small number of players that are willing to spend RL cash for items. When you increase the population by a factor of 50 or 100 the amount of players willing to spend cash goes up as well!
This is really a no brainer...everything is in place except the improved UO store. in a few months you couple double and triple the present revenue stream from subscriptions....and it would only go up from there.
Couldn't have said it better myself.
Describe compete. Most F2P models tend to only have deco and clothing options that you can buy. On the Broadsword model perhaps soulstones, bank increases, character slots, ethy mounts or even crazy hair hues. Things that can be currently bought at the origin store or at a number of blackmarket sites. While these things are nice to have (or even deco your home in) they cetainly do not give one an advantage in game. Don't wish to donate just farm more and buy the items. Don't have time to farm as much contribute to the game financially. I think players that don't contribute can bring just as much to the game for others by being active. Just need to have a healthy combination to suit everyone's styles and the game can thrive again.
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