Second account for cross healing when leech isn't usable, ideas for template?

[Ender]

A bard warrior I can see being useful, discord is very helpful and so are peacemaking masteries. At the same time, a wraith macer can eventually drop mana and stamina to nothing on a lot of monsters, and will likely deal more damage itself too.

I came up with this for the wraith form one.

120 macing
100 tactics
100 anatomy
100 healing
100 spirit speak
100 parry
80 chivalry
20 necro

The bard I'm less sure on. Obviously would want macing, music and disco or peace at 120 which is 360 points, then 560 after anatomy and healing. So maybe

120 macing
120 music
120 peace/disco
100 anatomy
100 healing
100 tactics
60 chivalry

Eh... I don't know.

 

[Lord GOD(GOD)]

Not sure what you're intending to fight with it but I'd just say to consider the following...

Offensively, if you're going for Stam and Mana attacks, you can also have Hit Fatigue and Mana Dragin, and Strangle also increases in damage based on Fatigue.

Defensively, Stone Form will give immunity to everything that blocks bandages (two of these without the bard skills took out the Slasher), and being Mystic would give Colossus and other perks like Healing Stone, Cleansing Wind.

120 Ninjitsu, Dog or Cat Form gives 40 HPR, you can combine with 18 on items and 2 for being human for 60 HPR which gives 6 hp per second through anything (poison/mortal etc). 120 Ninjitsu also gives a 90% chance that an incoming physical attack will get diverted and the opponent will lose target on you, so providing you don't have anything like bleed/hit spell going on they will stand there while you continue to hit.

I'd say if you utilised a combination of those factors you might be able to have both characters running cross healing, dexxer, bards and use all 4 masteries. You'd want your Discorder in Wraith and your Peacer as a Ninja.

I'd take a guess that the only things in game requiring such antics were Exodus and Cora.

Don't forget auto follow.

 

[Ender]

Well my main will be a pretty much standard Bushido paladin (120 swords/chiv/bush, 100 tacts/anat/healing and 60 chiv) that usually uses 100 life leech weapons but will use 100 mana instead, unsure which mod to use instead of life leech. Maybe mana drain since I have some already.

Exodus was my main target for this setup. But it could be used on anything really.

 

[Logrus]

If the bard is just for crosshealing, drop tactics.
120 wrestling
120 peace or provo
120 disco
120 music
100 heal/anat
100 meditation
40 Chiv for sacred jorney

 

[Ender]

I suppose I could do something like that, drop chivalry, replace wrestling with magery and use a mage weapon, and get 60 skill points on items...

 

[CorwinXX]

100 heal/anat? You need both.

 

[Ender]

100 heal/anat? You need both.

Yeah that's why I modified it.

 

[CorwinXX]

120 *4 + 100*2 + 100 + 40 = 820

 

[Ender]

120 *4 + 100*2 + 100 + 40 = 820

Well after I read it I changed it up in my head to be...

120 magery
120 music
120 peace/provo
120 discord
100 anatomy
100 healing
100 med

Which would add up to 780 I believe. Doable with items. Also I could maybe get by with dropping meditation down quite a bit, and keeping a good amount of MR on suit. I haven't tried using the bard songs without meditation yet.

 

[Lord GOD(GOD)]

I think it's a waste to be honest to have the second character only as support. Set them up with a heavy base damage weapon and get them attacking then play the main.

I'd probably make the second character:
120 Weapon (probably Archery with a Heavy X Bow), 90 Tactics, 90 Music (jeweled to 120), 90 Discord (jeweled to 120), 100 Healing, 100 Anatomy, 70 Chivalry... and with the remaining points you could either do something with Necro/SS, boost Tact/Anat/Chiv... in fact I'd probably use the Necro/SS to have some bonded Bake Kitsune's... with the right positioning/commands you could have them dump from safe distance if re-targeting is an issue. That would give you a heavy archer with 800+ mana dump just coming from a secondary character. Even if the Bakes died, and you couldn't keep on top of casting Chiv spells it'd be better than just sitting there with a few extra regens and a slightly shorter curse. Plus use them as a Wraith to deplete mana.

Make the main a Macer with Hit Fatigue. Either Bush/Parry or Ninja (couldn't use the Bakes with the Ninja route though as they'd get targeted when he loses target). Ninja is less points though so you could even have Resist or better offense, hell you could even have Protection Spellweaving and WOD to help finish off.

 

[Ender]

How much necro/SS do you need for Bake Kitsunes? Sounds doable other than that.

 

[Ender]

Apparently 60 necro/60 SS so I'm now struggling to figure out how to fit that in. 10 skill points from the new clean-up talismans (or 15 if I think it'd be worth dropping DI for the +5 necro/+10 SS one from ML minors), then 20 on each piece of jewelry? Seems like it would work.

 

[Lord GOD(GOD)]

Don't have to keep the Music/Disc jewelry on after use.

 

[Ender]

Yes I know. Still would need quite a bit of +skill.

120 archery
100 anatomy
100 healing
90 tactics
90 music
90 discord
60 necro
60 spirit speak

That's 710 with no chivalry.

 

[CorwinXX]

If you use necro you should try to go without Healing skill. Discorded monster does less damage and you have Necro/SS to heal.
DS becomes more powerful since you can use necro to decrease fire/poison resistances (in addition to disco).

 

[CorwinXX]

120 archery
100 anatomy
100 chivalry
100 tactics
90 music
90 discord
60 necro
60 spirit speak

This is 720 points but you can have 780 without much problems.

 

[Ender]

Well the whole point of the character is for cross healing though.

 

[Lord GOD(GOD)]

You shouldn't need to heal at all on the second character. But if you did the main character could do that. You only need the Necro up enough to summon the wolf give commands then you can drop it again. Plus I'd imagine you'd want to concentrate on the main character rather than recasting Chiv spells on the second.

 

[Ender]

Stuff like Exodus? I'd definitely need healing.

 

[Lord GOD(GOD)]

Was a response to Corwin saying using Necro to heal...

Stand the main on the same tile, and the secondary on the adjacent tile and you shouldn't need much healing on the second.