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F2P ideas..or not?

cazador

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Ok this is thread soley created for ideas to be added to the Origin store not to gripe about how you dislike the ideas..I am aware that there is a % of people who extremely dislike the idea of FTP. With that said Mesanna herself has said she would be open to the idea "briefly" if someone has a link to that Dev Video or Meet and Greet please post it. I don't want a debate over FTP or not. Just ideas of things that can be added to the store "if" hypothetically it ever did go, and heck while we are at it, ideas for items to add now.

Regular Ethereals:
$2.99
Llama
Horse
Ostard
Special Ethereals:
$5.99
Hiryu (Hues:(Ethereal,Original,Green,Blue)
CuSidhe(Hues:(Ethereal,Ice White,Black,Hunter Green)
Swamp Dragon(Hues:(Iron,Dull Copper,Shadow,Copper,Gold,Agapite,Verite,Valorite,Paroxymus Green)
Special Ethereal Dye
$12.99
(Crimson Red,Star Blue,Pearl White)

All one use Deeds

..this is just a basic example of a way to generate more money flow. Collectors alone would dish out cash just to have every one. And that still leaves (Boura,Tiger,Hell Hound) semi rare for vets.

Non Vet Transfer Shield
$19.99
(You can pick one Shard that will give you a transfer token every 3 or 4 months)
(Account Bound)

..just random stuff off the top of my head



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BeaIank

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They could sell void pool reward points in a pack of 10K points for 5.99 and 20K points for 9.99 (same prices of the forged tools with 5 and 10 uses).
So, people like me who are starved for resources would buy those packs and hit Vela for resource maps and talismans.

I know I would buy plenty of those.
 

Ultimaholic

Adventurer
Stratics Veteran
7x Skill Balls/Stat Balls..... Some may squak about these,but hey,honestly who wants to return to UO and spend a month grinding to get decent. Most would love the opportunity to jump right in where they feel they left off.
Exclusive mounts and tameables
Basement deeds
Gold... I personally have never bought gold but know alot who have. Why buy gold? God only knows but if its avail thru the store,they`d be getting more lost profit.

A ton of other stuff but someones got to cook dinner so I`m off.
 

cazador

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Gold... I personally have never bought gold but know alot who have. Why buy gold? God only knows but if its avail thru the store,they`d be getting more lost profit.
Id be for this if they purchased the gold from players, say .15¢ a mil from Sponsored UO Brokers as needed for re-sale at .20¢ a mil as to not flood the economy even more.


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Kael

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My thoughts on this:

- would prefer a new shard set up ( Classic shard !!) or remove character transfers from a slower shard and allow F2P there. The economy of the present game just seems so whacked these days with duped items and money. You would be amazed though at how many people would find it refreshing to actually have some meaningful farming going on- also helps create am environment for different player professions ie- thieves, pk's, miners, crafters, anti pk's, spawn guilds
-like just donation coins or currency - just redeem the items from the vendors yourself
-would prefer no gold or skill balls for sale. Need gold just sell some donation coins or buy a mystic char/advance char token.
-keep items in donation store strictly deco or mounts or clothing- nothing that can effect pvp
-update and control the regular uo store better
 

The Zog historian

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Id be for this if they purchased the gold from players, say .15¢ a mil from Sponsored UO Brokers as needed for re-sale at .20¢ a mil as to not flood the economy even more.
From time to time we see requests to "Give [template] some love!" What you're suggesting would give dupers a lot of love, and they'd redouble their efforts to create as much as they could.
 

cazador

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From time to time we see requests to "Give [template] some love!" What you're suggesting would give dupers a lot of love, and they'd redouble their efforts to create as much as they could.
Thanks for your as always valued input.. Hopefully by threads end we can we into an Econ 101 session. This would only benefit legit gold re-sellers. As a duper would much rather undercut the official site by marking down to .23¢ and make more that way. They prefer to stay under the radar :)


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The Zog historian

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Thanks for your as always valued input.. Hopefully by threads end we can we into an Econ 101 session. This would only benefit legit gold re-sellers. As a duper would much rather undercut the official site by marking down to .23¢ and make more that way. They prefer to stay under the radar :)
You have consistently shown a lack of comprehension of Econ 101's first day. Anyone who sells gold would benefit, and the majority of gold selling comes from dupers. Do you and any friends have your own motives for wanting to give benefit to, legitimize and further encourage their activities?

There's only so much these sites could undercut. They've earned a certain reputation to where I'd never trust them, nor would I want to support an industry based largely on duped gold. Therefore, legitimate players would be willing to pay a certain premium for laundered gold they wouldn't have problems with, whether or not they care about the original source.
 

Smoot

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You have consistently shown a lack of comprehension of Econ 101's first day. Anyone who sells gold would benefit, and the majority of gold selling comes from dupers.
maybe ten years ago. if you know anything of the major people selling gold now, they arent dupers. even the sites generally make far greater profits just buying gold low and selling it high.

Gold sellers would definitely not benefit if EA sold gold. The would lose the majority of their supply and most likely not be able to compete with prices.

Yes, the "small time" person selling their extra gold to EA for very low prices would benefit.
 
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cazador

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maybe ten years ago. if you know anything of the major people selling gold now, they arent dupers. even the sites generally make far greater profits just buying gold low and selling it high.

Gold sellers would definitely not benefit if EA sold gold. The would lose the majority of their supply and most likely not be able to compete with prices.

Yes, the "small time" person selling their extra gold to EA for very low prices would benefit.
Must be Econ 102.. Exactly what would happen :thumbs up:


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Smoot

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houses
colors
sparkly things
animations
clothes
vanity pets
 

The Zog historian

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maybe ten years ago. if you know anything of the major people selling gold now, they arent dupers. even the sites generally make far greater profits just buying gold low and selling it high.

Gold sellers would definitely not benefit if EA sold gold. The would lose the majority of their supply and most likely not be able to compete with prices.

Yes, the "small time" person selling their extra gold to EA for very low prices would benefit.
You really should not jump into threads with the obvious error of conflating dupers with gold sellers. If you bothered to read what I had posted, I am clearly not talking about "sellers" benefiting. If EA were to start buying gold, whatever the source, dupers would benefit. If Paul will buy any and all mudpies that Peter makes, how many mudpies would Peter offer?

Even more clearly, you have no idea how much duping there is, and how much gold (no matter how legitimate the seller) originates with dupers. When a friend sold 1 billion to someone via Paypal, he most certainly didn't dupe the gold, but I'd say an easy 50% of the gold (which he got by selling high-end items) was originally duped.
 

Sneaky Que

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FTP players can't own a house, subscribers can. That would seem to be the best option IMO. They can also add some stuff to the store and also give subscribers other benefits, but the house issue should be the main difference between the two. That way heaps of people will start playing FTP and many of them will end up subscribing so they can have a house. The housing system in UO is an incredibly strong selling point that no other game I've seen has done nearly as well, if at all. The bottom line though is that UO needs a FTP option as well as retaining the current subscription options. It wouldn't hurt to drop the sub price by a dollar or two tho.
 

Lady Michelle

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Thanks for your as always valued input.. Hopefully by threads end we can we into an Econ 101 session. This would only benefit legit gold re-sellers. As a duper would much rather undercut the official site by marking down to .23¢ and make more that way. They prefer to stay under the radar :)


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Soon we won't have to worry about dupers since checks are being taken out soon.
 

The Zog historian

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They will still dupe items, which makes them a lot more profit than gold checks do anyway.
Though items may still be duped, at least there won't be as much inflation, and if the rate of item duping is faster than the increase in total gold, then prices will fall. Someone won't, for example, buy an item for 100 million today, then get 300 million in a year's time because there's so much more gold floating around. It's because there's been so much duping that prices can be bid so high for single items.
 

Martell

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Someone won't, for example, buy an item for 100 million today, then get 300 million in a year's time because there's so much more gold floating around. It's because there's been so much duping that prices can be bid so high for single items.
You're basing this on what evidence exactly?
 

The Zog historian

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You're basing this on what evidence exactly?
As I clearly said, it's an example of prices rising. Remember when a Conjurer's Trinket could be bought for 1 million, PoF for 40K, or Forged Metal Tools for 2 million per charge? But now there's so much gold floating around that even legitimate players must keep bidding higher in order to compete.

Though the value of an item (besides actual supply and demand) means one could buy it today and sell it later at an inflated price, inflation comes down on those who save in the currency. I don't want to have to put gold in Slithers or other high-value items, trusting that their value won't fall through the floor if a new item is introduced.
 

Uvtha

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Ok this is thread soley created for ideas to be added to the Origin store not to gripe about how you dislike the ideas..I am aware that there is a % of people who extremely dislike the idea of FTP. With that said Mesanna herself has said she would be open to the idea "briefly" if someone has a link to that Dev Video or Meet and Greet please post it. I don't want a debate over FTP or not. Just ideas of things that can be added to the store "if" hypothetically it ever did go, and heck while we are at it, ideas for items to add now.

Regular Ethereals:
$2.99
Llama
Horse
Ostard
Special Ethereals:
$5.99
Hiryu (Hues:(Ethereal,Original,Green,Blue)
CuSidhe(Hues:(Ethereal,Ice White,Black,Hunter Green)
Swamp Dragon(Hues:(Iron,Dull Copper,Shadow,Copper,Gold,Agapite,Verite,Valorite,Paroxymus Green)
Special Ethereal Dye
$12.99
(Crimson Red,Star Blue,Pearl White)

All one use Deeds

..this is just a basic example of a way to generate more money flow. Collectors alone would dish out cash just to have every one. And that still leaves (Boura,Tiger,Hell Hound) semi rare for vets.

Non Vet Transfer Shield
$19.99
(You can pick one Shard that will give you a transfer token every 3 or 4 months)
(Account Bound)

..just random stuff off the top of my head



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Kinda I dunno... malicious, but lotto chests.

Ultrarare, Rare, Uncommon, Common tiers. You get 1 special item drop and up to 3 regular item rolls. Specials would be deco, mounts, dyes, titles, artifacts, stuff like that, with each tier having unique special items, around 10 each. Non special would be regular loot rolls, scrolls, resources, whatever... all scaled to tier level.

1.99 for 1, 4.99 for 5, 7.99 for 10. Or just simple 10 for 10. People would buy them I guarantee.
 
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