NEWS Lake Austin's Meet and Greet-January 21st

[Tina Small]

I am looking forward to getting more details about the following things that the dev team said at the meet and greet:

• Mesanna said, "The Account management is being redone as we speak by us. The last meeting we had on this I requested the ability for you guys to be able to unlink accounts and give them to other players since I get that request alot." I have some concerns about whether redoing the account management system and making it possible to unlink accounts will increase the incidence of account hacking. Seems like we have not really heard any reports about it happening since UO was added to the current account management system. I hope we will also not need to come up with more e-mail addresses if the revamped system ends up disaggregating the accounts we currently have linked together and we must have a unique e-mail address associated with each UO account. Also, if account transfers are going to officially be available again, I wonder if that will mean a return of the program where you could pay to have an account transferred to another player free of any bad marks it might have had and with the assurance that the original owner wouldn't be able to easily re-claim the account.
• Someone asked about plans to attract new players to the game and Mesanna said that there are such plans "with the coming of Steam and adding a new player experience that will benefit new and returning players," but it will be "later this year." I'm looking forward to reading about the team's plans for a new player experience. Really keeping my fingers crossed on that one! I am concerned about it ending up being something like the little tutorial you get in the EC client when you use it to make a new character. That tutorial just doesn't go far enough and it's also buggy in some places (e.g., trying to use the rune to return to challenge the Dark Knight). Also, if what is being added is some kind of "guided tour" or quest, I hope it isn't going to only be available in the EC and isn't something you only have the chance to do once per character. I am hoping it turns out to be more along the lines of new quests and NPCs added to New Haven and more robust information available through the official website.

 

[4runnersport]

i think 1 hour per week would be enough time to visually identify an obvious multibox pod and perma-ban 1 account. I'm sure this slight added risk would be enough to deter the majority of other multiboxers. No need to check for third party programs. EA has the right to ban any account for any reason, so only a visual identifier would be needed.

If the dev team cannot / will not provide that minimal enforcement of their own rule, they can just continue to slowly lose players. On the other hand, which Mesanna has indicated at the most recent meet and greet, if she wants to publicly change her stance on the subject it should be posted, thus allowing the subject and discussion of those programs to be available to all on these forums.

Will i quit over multiboxers? probably not. but for alot of people its just one more thing that goes into the decision of whether to go to the account page and click "Cancel"

I doubt 1 hour is enough to properly identify on every shard at every event but that's just my opinion.

When was the last time they did a perma ban for anything other than duping? It's been so many years since iv heard of that happening. I even seen people use racial slurs and all in game and only get a day ban sometimes nothing at all would happen. Didn't say I agreed with it but the player base is too small to just go on a perma ban spree.

I'm not sure I fully understand you. Do you feel everyone that has a 3rd party program open at an event should be perma banned? Should only 1 person be perma banned as an example? Should only people YOU think be perma banned (multiboxers in your case im assuming and no one else)? The program is still illegal wether its someone multiboxing at an event, someone that isn't bothering anyone at the event only training a skill on a second client while doing the event, etc. I don't think UO can/will pick and chose who they perma banned if someone was using the same program its illegal either way and like I said before I bet over half the people at events has it opened.

 

[petemage]

Thanks for transcribing it. Very nice read

 

[OREOGL]

I'm almost crapping myself here. Gold conversion? How am I going to fit all the checks locked down in my house or on my vendors to convert without being in the bank?

Do we drag and drop and it converts?

If so, wouldn't that still be a duping concern?

More info please.

 

[Cyanide_Mage]

I doubt 1 hour is enough to properly identify on every shard at every event but that's just my opinion.

When was the last time they did a perma ban for anything other than duping? It's been so many years since iv heard of that happening. I even seen people use racial slurs and all in game and only get a day ban sometimes nothing at all would happen. Didn't say I agreed with it but the player base is too small to just go on a perma ban spree.

I'm not sure I fully understand you. Do you feel everyone that has a 3rd party program open at an event should be perma banned? Should only 1 person be perma banned as an example? Should only people YOU think be perma banned (multiboxers in your case im assuming and no one else)? The program is still illegal wether its someone multiboxing at an event, someone that isn't bothering anyone at the event only training a skill on a second client while doing the event, etc. I don't think UO can/will pick and chose who they perma banned if someone was using the same program its illegal either way and like I said before I bet over half the people at events has it opened.

 

[Smoot]

I doubt 1 hour is enough to properly identify on every shard at every event but that's just my opinion.

When was the last time they did a perma ban for anything other than duping? It's been so many years since iv heard of that happening. I even seen people use racial slurs and all in game and only get a day ban sometimes nothing at all would happen. Didn't say I agreed with it but the player base is too small to just go on a perma ban spree.

I'm not sure I fully understand you. Do you feel everyone that has a 3rd party program open at an event should be perma banned? Should only 1 person be perma banned as an example? Should only people YOU think be perma banned (multiboxers in your case im assuming and no one else)? The program is still illegal wether its someone multiboxing at an event, someone that isn't bothering anyone at the event only training a skill on a second client while doing the event, etc. I don't think UO can/will pick and chose who they perma banned if someone was using the same program its illegal either way and like I said before I bet over half the people at events has it opened.

I think your assumption of how many people use those programs at events is a bit high. Id say its more like 10 percent of actual players. And i think it would only take an insignificant amount of perma bans to greatly increase respect of the tos. I realize UO hasnt been enforcing the tos for years, but we also have people quiting over it. How many people just in the last few days have said they have stopped doing UO events because of mulitboxing? Stop doing idocing because of scripting? when people stop one thing after another, obviously that will be one less thing to keep him in the game. I think the bigger issue, is that after this recent meet and greet its become even more apparrent how dire the state of UO is in terms of staffing, and the inability to do basic things like monitor cheating and provide the updates / improvements to the game previously promised. Even in the last 2 years since i started playing UO again ive seen numbers drop. Even atlantic seems to have around half the players at the bank it did even a few years ago. How long will UO last? not sure but mesanna seems to accept the fact that theres little to be done at this point.

 

[4runnersport]

People say they are going to quit all the time and rarely do. Some of times its just wanting attention, some because things don't go the way they want, and some actually quit. Most of the people here said they quit and come back as well. Didn't you start a thread a few days ago about quitting then come back and saying you wasn't going anywhere? Some may quit but most want. I guess you saying 10% is your opinion and me saying over half is mine. This is a very old game like I said I bet everyone in this thread has known someone that has at least trained with the same program we speak of. It's illegal no matter how its used. But o well just wanted to get ya going a bit its all good man.

And I love you cyanide. Glad you came back to the game/events after taking your break last year. We missed you in vent the time you took off

 

[Smoot]

People say they are going to quit all the time and rarely do. Some of times its just wanting attention, some because things don't go the way they want, and some actually quit. Most of the people here said they quit and come back as well. Didn't you start a thread a few days ago about quitting then come back and saying you wasn't going anywhere? Some may quit but most want. I guess you saying 10% is your opinion and me saying over half is mine. This is a very old game like I said I bet everyone in this thread has known someone that has at least trained with the same program we speak of. It's illegal no matter how its used. But o well just wanted to get ya going a bit its all good man.

And I love you cyanide. Glad you came back to the game/events after taking your break last year. We missed you in vent the time you took off

Im not going anywhere for now, but like so many others am just becoming jaded with the game, its maintenance mode, and basically all we saw from this meet and greet. Might take a break, might sell off all my rares soon. All i do is events anyway. Rarely do anything else with the game like i used to. Like many others, perhaps the game has outlived its intrigue for me personally. Mesanna's words this past week didnt help.

 

[4runnersport]

Im not going anywhere for now, but like so many others am just becoming jaded with the game, its maintenance mode, and basically all we saw from this meet and greet. Might take a break, might sell off all my rares soon. All i do is events anyway. Rarely do anything else with the game like i used to. Like many others, perhaps the game has outlived its intrigue for me personally. Mesanna's words this past week didnt help.

I don't play as much as I use to but I still play. I too have thought about selling the few rares I kept for myself but doubt I will quit. You gotta think also I am sure they are tired of hearing complaints day in and out. The game is full of people always wanting their way and crying when they don't get it. Every time they do change something it always hurts some other innocent person and there goes another complaint. It is what it is I guess

 

[Pandora_CoD]

I'm betting there will be an explosion of multiboxers at EM events soon.

There is already my friend. It's why I don't go to them.

The simplest way would be to remove random item drops from EM Events and add them in as QUESTS during story arcs that the EM's run, so more folks have access to get them equally. If they are less "rare" they are less appealing. There is still plenty of other rares out there.

 

[drcossack]

People say they are going to quit all the time and rarely do. Some of times its just wanting attention, some because things don't go the way they want, and some actually quit. Most of the people here said they quit and come back as well.

Never outright said "I'm quitting" (well, that's not entirely true. When I came back in 2007, I said I only came back for a month. Which was true. But that's just semantics.)

When I deactivated in 2005, that was it (or so I thought...) - I let my house go IDOC, never planning to return. Don't know if anyone got my stuff, but I imagine someone did. I came back again in 2010, quit after RTB ended that year. Again never planned to return.

Summer 2013, I was bored, played on a few trial accounts to get my feet wet again (but only played on TC1.) Reactivated last May & I've been active since.

Nearly everyone that quits comes back at one time or another. Some of us do it more than once.

 

[Uriah Heep]

scripting is legal, UM'ing is not....got it