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I'm really struggling to find people to do stuff with... On Chessy and ATL.

Ray_Martin

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It seems like the goal of most players now is to get to a point where you can solo stuff. I miss the days of cross healing or having a mage just casting greater heal on you while throwing out EVs...

There's a dude on Chessy that'll run Champ spawns with me every weekend. He's pretty awesome, but even that usually entails me killing as much as I can while he follows a greater dragon around in another direction until the champ spawns.

One more thing... I wish Gargoyles could get the bonus from Swamp Dragons. I think a non-thrower Garg warrior is pretty epic.

/End Rant.

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Note: This doesn't mean player/EM events which are AMAZING and always have been on Chessy.
 

TheScoundrelRico

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Welcome to the new UO. To be honest most of the changes made to the game over the last 10 years are specifically suited to the solo player.

There is no need to rely on any other player if you choose that route. Unfortunately it seems like most players have...la


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I am one of those odd ones that hasn't changed her template in over 7 years. I too miss the days of groups going out hunting together. Needing a group of people to do a champ spawn or peerless. I'm sure I'm not the only one...but it seems we are few and far between.

Why play a multi-player game if you're just gonna run solo all the time? It makes little sense to me.
 

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That's not the point...sure you CAN.....but what's the point when it's not really needed....it's like having 5 really big guys with huge swords and dragons killing a mouse....:/ kinda pointless. It's more fun when you NEED more people to do things...at least that's my opinion.
 

Kylie Kinslayer

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For me it depends on the mood I am in. At times I seek the solitude of solo'ing and other times I seek the company of others... UO is kinda like life in that aspect. If you really want to do something that takes a group of folks then put out a call in gen chat to do the Champ Spawn in Bedlam. I have yet to see anyone solo that or finish it with just a couple of folks....
 

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yell in general chat on chessy, DW seems to have sumone one most of the time
meees likes group things
 

Eärendil

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Well, maybe it depends on the servers you are playing. On the servers I am playing, we have about 2-4 pvm-events each week, most of the time with 10+ people.

However, the lamento about "everything is soloable" is a bit pointless, as there are (1) places like Exodus which are absolutely not soloable and (2) other places like the Stygian Dragon or some of the Champs which take far too much time to fight alone.

So, ordinary player like me (who hasnt enough time for soloing the bosses) groups with people. Which is not too hard: Just gather keys and call for some people in GC - you will get a group for Exodus, Melisande, Medusa or whatever within seconds...

If you ask me, this thread is only documenting a certain lack of creativity. At sunday, for example, we will do 5 or more rounds of fighting Exodus with (maybe) 20 people. Good chances for scrolls and legendary loot on the corpse. Its so easy to do so: Hunt keys with some guys and offer a trip to Exodus on your shard-board...
 

drcossack

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Well, maybe it depends on the servers you are playing. On the servers I am playing, we have about 2-4 pvm-events each week, most of the time with 10+ people.

However, the lamento about "everything is soloable" is a bit pointless, as there are (1) places like Exodus which are absolutely not soloable and (2) other places like the Stygian Dragon or some of the Champs which take far too much time to fight alone.
The old Fel Champs only take a few minutes. Well, Semidar and Barracoon do, anyway. Haven't tried Oaks solo, and Neira/Mephitis/Rikktor/the Harrower annihilate me.

Exodus can't be soloed? Unless the shrine prevents you from doing it on your own: as long as you know where to take him (idk what shard you play, but I can show you the spot if you don't know it), he can be, if you're an Archer/Thrower whammy. But you'll need to be able to self-res to do it. To make sure it goes smoothly, you only need two people for Exodus. I was doing them with 8-10 people on LS right after Pub 86, and we've since cut that down to 4-5 people maximum (I've done it with as few as 3, but I don't doubt I could do it with two), all on Archers/Throwers.
 

Eärendil

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Thanks - no interest in soloing these bosses. No fun, takes too long. Why should I? ;-)
 

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My best advice is to tell you to use General Chat... Gather the keys for things like Corgul, Exodus, Medusa, anything... and then announce in Chat your taking a run... Often folk will join you.

Gather some white nets and sponsor a net toss. Advertise it well in advance in both Gen Chat and on the shard forums. Often folk will join you.

Sometimes I find if you really want folk to do things "with" you ..... You need to put forth some genuine effort as well. Sometimes if you do... next time perhaps someone else might follow your lead.
 

Eärendil

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My best advice is to tell you to use General Chat... Gather the keys for things like Corgul, Exodus, Medusa, anything... and then announce in Chat your taking a run... Often folk will join you.

Gather some white nets and sponsor a net toss. Advertise it well in advance in both Gen Chat and on the shard forums. Often folk will join you.

Sometimes I find if you really want folk to do things "with" you ..... You need to put forth some genuine effort as well. Sometimes if you do... next time perhaps someone else might follow your lead.
Exactly my message ,-)
 

Uvtha

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Thanks - no interest in soloing these bosses. No fun, takes too long. Why should I? ;-)
I've never solo'd a boss, heck I can't even get to one by myself (once I got to grizzle solo, but died), but I would like to, as it seems like a good challenge. I personally would like to hunt bosses with friends but I'm never on when people are doing stuff.
 

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As I mentioned in another thread; increase the difficulty on all dungeon/champs/spawns by 150%. People will learn to play with other people real fast.
Yeah lets screw those who play differently than you. Stick to pvp :devil:
 

MalagAste

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Thanks - no interest in soloing these bosses. No fun, takes too long. Why should I? ;-)
I couldn't agree more. If I wanted to solo everything then WTF am I doing playing an MMORPG? I thought the reason I was playing in a "multiverse" was to play With other people.... If I wanted to play a soloist game then I'd be playing something like Sims. Or I'd play some other solo game on an Xbox or whatever.... I wouldn't be sitting at my PC playing an MMO.

I would take the advice of myself or Eaerendil and just get keys and you never know you might make some new friends. (THAT to me is the whole purpose of playing). To make friends and have fun "together". Not alone. May as well be playing freaking tetris on my phone for all that matters if I wanted to be playing alone.
 

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The only thing I do anymore in UO is player and EM events. I'll sometimes take a stealther through a dungeon to find some decoration but that's about it. Ivy will often start hunting in a dungeon so I'll join her and I get bored about 5 minutes in, and I used to join my guild on Atl for their scheduled hunts but found it tiresome as well.

I just don't find the combat system entertaining anymore and EM/Player events just barely make it worth using. The difficulty curve is basically "too easy^impossible" and so I'm either bored or frustrated. Let's also not mention my tamer has been bugged since Publish 16, but that's a story for another day. Magery? Fun but underpowered. Throwers/Archers? More effective than mages for me but less utility. Tamers? too easy^impossible curve exemplified. Sword and board classics to Sampires? Boring or iWin buttons.

Ugg this turned into a rant about combat in UO sorry! But Ray, do what Badger has been doing, host some dungeon crawls. During your prime time when you want to play, maybe once a week or every other week schedule something. Post it on the shard forum/guild forum you want to run it with and just go somewhere. Sure you may end up chasing after you tamer friend's GD again but who knows maybe you will get a good group together to have fun with? That's basically what I have done for my entertainment in UO, just schedule player events (although I've been a slacker about it, sorry) and this makes me do what I want other people to do haha!
 

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There is basically no spawn in UO that I havent done solo. Some take a little more time or preperation but for the most part i consider all spawns in UO easy. However, a lot of this has to do with the fact ive been doing the same spawns for 5 years. I dont think they would be easy for the average player or a noob.

With that said, i would love to see UO adapt a percentage system in which the spawn gets harder the more people are involved. With that the reward gets better. For instance if you solo a baracoon spawn you only get 4 scrolls and 25 percent chance of those being 120s... If you went to baracoon with 12 people the spawn got an increase in difficulty and 12 scrolls dropped with a 50 percent chance of those being 120s...

The exact numbers would be an obvious balance issue, and of course there would be those that abused the system. However making it worth people actually grouping up by giving the reward to do so would benefit us greatly.
 

Stickypaws

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Introduce a bump for each avatar attacking a boss.

For each avatar attacking a Peerless/Champ Boss/Dungeon Boss each attacker receives +10% gold or +5% chance of rare drop or +25% per extra character chance of getting a 120 powerscroll.

Solo a champ for a single 120, or team up 5 people for 2 powerscrolls per champ.

Instead of making it impossible to solo things and murderising shards like Drachenfels, give an incentive to team up.
 

cazador

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Thanks - no interest in soloing these bosses. No fun, takes too long. Why should I? ;-)
I do Stygian dragon in about 8-10min solo..

Only things I personally can't solo in game are "semidar(not sure why she just wrecks me Everytime, right temp, gender and weapons), harrower(I can just takes wayyy too long) and exodus(partially because I've never done it)


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Speranza

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Exodus as a group is really fun. The only downside is you need 3 keys for each person. I would think this fight wouuld be done a lot a lot more if we get get it down to 4 keys for the entire party.
 

drcossack

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I do Stygian dragon in about 8-10min solo..

Only things I personally can't solo in game are "semidar(not sure why she just wrecks me Everytime, right temp, gender and weapons), harrower(I can just takes wayyy too long) and exodus(partially because I've never done it)


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Semidar's easy, IMO. About a month ago, I got her to 50% on my own before some of my guildmates showed up, though I would have done just fine on my own. Agreed on the Harrower; I probably could if I designed a char for it, but yeah. Even with a group it takes a while; I did a late night Harrower with nothing but sampires, and it still took us 20-30 minutes.

I'll solo any of the old bosses & not have a problem with them, except for the length of time needed (looking at you, Melisande), but I won't do Slasher or Stygian Dragon alone. I could probably do Stygian, but it'd take too long and isn't worth the time. Slasher...hmm. I'd guess I could do it, but it'd require some prep time.

Exodus as a group is really fun. The only downside is you need 3 keys for each person. I would think this fight wouuld be done a lot a lot more if we get get it down to 4 keys for the entire party.
Yes, yes it is. Even though I think I've also figured out the best stuff for key drops, it still doesn't always cooperate (I'll get more robes/rites, which isn't bad, or altars, which SUCKS. Dagger drop seems to hate me.)
 

Tina Small

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It seems like the goal of most players now is to get to a point where you can solo stuff. I miss the days of cross healing or having a mage just casting greater heal on you while throwing out EVs...

There's a dude on Chessy that'll run Champ spawns with me every weekend. He's pretty awesome, but even that usually entails me killing as much as I can while he follows a greater dragon around in another direction until the champ spawns.

One more thing... I wish Gargoyles could get the bonus from Swamp Dragons. I think a non-thrower Garg warrior is pretty epic.

/End Rant.

:(

Note: This doesn't mean player/EM events which are AMAZING and always have been on Chessy.
Maybe you can talk a friend into joining you in working up brand-new characters from scratch on a shard neither of you have played on before? Sometimes starting out with nothing and seeing how far you can get just based on playing the game without taking advantage of purchased or transferred gold or items can give you some new or different goals and also make low-level content a challenge again.
 

HippoRedux

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Having a ball in Dark Guardians room in Doom-over 700 drops so far for me just casting RC and nether cyclone w/undead book equipped, the most drops are when there's a crowd in room - more peeps & summons = more DG's spawned and hence more drops for all! When I enter room, I invite all in game to join me via General Chat...
 

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Exodus as a group is really fun. The only downside is you need 3 keys for each person. I would think this fight wouuld be done a lot a lot more if we get get it down to 4 keys for the entire party.
This. One set of keys for the party (like most other bosses are) or remove the timers...problem solved
 
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