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I think this is how it's supposed to be. Some creatures drop non magical items in the same way as they drop stuff like plates of cookies and balls of yarn.
I just killed a shade on Europa that had 2 magical items and 1 plain double bladed staff.
I just killed a shade on Europa that had 2 magical items and 1 plain double bladed staff.
Not very fast, as I'm opening every corpse and looking at every item inside of them (using Classic Client, so there's lots of shoving stuff around) and picking up gems and reagents too.
I'm slow enough at looting to probably make most people start getting very itchy very fast to "just get moving!"
Maybe so. In any event, I'll just keep passing along the info. Seemed strange, though, on one of the zombies to have TWO items (a weapon and a ring) with no properties.
Love the red hair, Kyronix. Thanks for stopping by and looking at the new loot in the new location with no properties. I should be around there for a while, with a few trips to the bank.
Looks like Origin has a new advisor as well. Welcome Vesta!
Looks like Origin has a new advisor as well. Welcome Vesta!
Kyronix, no properties on gargish tessen form an undead guardian and no properties on a gargish cleaver from a silver serpent. Hopefully that's enough for you to go on for now.
One silver serpent with both a shortblade and a gargish bracelet with no magical properties. Going to stop the reporting now. Hehe. Can't keep up with the GD.
It's the luck of the person/party killing the creature when the chest drops, as the items are known in the chest before the lock is picked.
That's correct, or it will have the old loot generated properties. just as it does if you kill something on any shards other than Izumo, Origin, or TC1, IE: not "a lesser magic item - Legendary Artifact" properties on the item(s) in question.
Edit: The Treasure maps in existing paragon chests should have the new loot in them if you wait to dig them up after the publish goes live, (not 100% positive on this, but it should work that way.)
Two observations about the trader's quest:
(1) The maps in the Grand Atlas are going to be invaluable for finding NPC shops to fill your orders! (http://uo2.stratics.com/maps-and-locations/cities-towns) I knew I had to buy cake in Jhelom when I got there with my first order but honestly couldn't remember where the bakery was. It was nice to pull up the map showing NPC shops in Jhelom, with their coordinates included, and just use a sextant and walk right to it!
(2) Slim's note was still in my character's backpack after turning in the order. I was able to remove it from my character's backpack and lock it down. Will it stay permanently and will I get a new note each time or is getting the note a once-per-character occurrence?
(1) The maps in the Grand Atlas are going to be invaluable for finding NPC shops to fill your orders! (http://uo2.stratics.com/maps-and-locations/cities-towns) I knew I had to buy cake in Jhelom when I got there with my first order but honestly couldn't remember where the bakery was. It was nice to pull up the map showing NPC shops in Jhelom, with their coordinates included, and just use a sextant and walk right to it!
(2) Slim's note was still in my character's backpack after turning in the order. I was able to remove it from my character's backpack and lock it down. Will it stay permanently and will I get a new note each time or is getting the note a once-per-character occurrence?
That sounds neat being able to keep Slims note. I often like when you can do a quest or chose not to complete the quest and keep the item.
Slim's note is his gift to you. You can cherish it forever!
Woh, you are right. So I am on someone else's war steed and as I technically have zero followers I can cast collosus...
So it IS tomorrow. OMG, I CAN'T WAIT. I'm gonna start things off tomorrow by chaining Fel Melisande. Already got 6 Dryad's Blessings I need to use (the oldest expires on Thursday); it's unfortunate that I can't solo her in my luck suit though. haha.
@Kyronix: Any plans to make the VvV arties blessable? I just tried to use a Bless Deed on the Orny, which failed. Same with the Crimson Cincture.
I am thinking as they upped the insurance on faction arties to 2k per they want to enforce a cost to using them which is why they disallow blessing.
Much appreciation for the quick response! Awesome @OREOGL for reporting it!
No, you will not be able to bless VvV arties.
Doing some MIBs on Origin with my fisher who has 775 luck. Just gotta say that the MIB chest loot quality is drastically, drastically lower than what I was seeing while hunting with my tamer, with 1380 luck on her suit, earlier in the day. Not sure if the difference is just from the difference in the luck on their suits or the source of the items. May swap their suits a little later after I get a few MIB chests for comparison.
That would be really interesting Tina...Thanks in advance
Got the suits swapped and the fisher is at 1355, so not quite 1380 (fisher can't use the swords of prosperity LOL) but hopefully close enough to be valid for comparison purposes. On my way now to do a chest. Maybe can get in 2 chests before I have to log out till later tonight.
Edited to add: Forgot she can touch a luck statue, so that'll make the test even better...maybe. Won't do the luck statue bump till tonight.
Edited to add: Forgot she can touch a luck statue, so that'll make the test even better...maybe. Won't do the luck statue bump till tonight.
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The loot from all 3 MIB chests is very poor compared to dungeon and overland loot that I got earlier in the day with only 25 more luck and using a tamer. All three chests are from Trammel and all three have 20k gold in them.
I will try some more this evening with the 1355 luck and then smack the luck statue and see if that helps any. (Still have about 20 more MIBs to work with.) Then, if time allows, I'll go out with the same suit (i.e., 1355 luck instead of the original 1380 so it is identical to what the fisher wore) on the tamer and do more overland and dungeon hunting. Lastly, will look up imbuing weights for as many items as I can. My gut feeling is, though, that the MIB loot is not par with dungeon and overland loot by a long shot. Not at all. It still "sucks."
I will try some more this evening with the 1355 luck and then smack the luck statue and see if that helps any. (Still have about 20 more MIBs to work with.) Then, if time allows, I'll go out with the same suit (i.e., 1355 luck instead of the original 1380 so it is identical to what the fisher wore) on the tamer and do more overland and dungeon hunting. Lastly, will look up imbuing weights for as many items as I can. My gut feeling is, though, that the MIB loot is not par with dungeon and overland loot by a long shot. Not at all. It still "sucks."
Seems nothing changed in MIB loot since my July tests.
There also seems to be a small bug with special toggling, the icons for weapon specials stay highlighted red as if the special is active for the next attack, but they don't seem to reset sometimes... Also weapon specials toggle on, when you're below 70/70-90/90 require weapon skill & tactics, they still don't go off, but are highlighted as if they could.
Classic Client.
Classic Client.
why we're on this topic, when will gray/silver jewelry properly count towards cleanup points?
Question for Kyronix: Is it intentional that when you try to unravel a container that includes items with the new "Antique" tag, you get the warning that the container contains items made with a special material? I've got a bag with only 3 items in it, each with the Antique tag on them, and get that message no matter which of the 3 antique items I put in the container or if all of them are in the container. None of them have been enhanced, altered, or imbued in any way. They're fresh from a fished-up chest.
Here are the results from 9 MIB chests I fished up on Origin this afternoon and evening, in Trammel. For the first one, my fisher had 755 luck on her suit. For the next 4, she had 1355 luck. For the last 4, she had 1955 luck after touching a luck statue.
As my guildmates can attest, I tend to save looted items that many others would just pass by or unravel. However, there wasn't one single piece of loot in these 9 chests that I was even tempted to save. Not one.
Also, as you can see, the quality of the loot, as translated into relic fragments, enchanted essence, and magical residue from unraveling it, seemed to go steadily downhill with each chest. The information here is listed in the exact order that I fished up the chests today.
As I mentioned earlier today in another post, the MIB chest loot is terrible if you lay it side by side with loot you can now get on Origin from dungeon or overland mobs, at least with the amounts of luck I was using. I was so excited to think that maybe fishing to get MIBs and then getting the chests would be a worthwhile use of time, but I fear nothing has really changed and it's still pretty much a waste of time.
755 LUCK
- 20k gold, 5 minor magic items, 5 lesser magic items, 1 greater magic item, 1 spell channeling mage weapon wand. Yield when unraveled: 2 relic fragments, 9 essence, 19 residue.
1355 LUCK
- 20k gold, 7 minor magic items, 4 lesser magic items, 1 spell channeling mage weapon . Yield when unraveled: 0 relic fragments, 11 essence, 22 residue.
- 20k gold, 4 minor magic items, 8 lesser magic items, no wands. Yield when unraveled: 0 relic fragments, 15 essence, 19 residue.
- 30k gold, 2 minor magic items, 10 lesser magic items, 3 greater magic items, 2 spell channeling mage weapon wands. Yield when unraveled: 0 relic fragments, 27 essence, 17 residue.
- 30k gold, 2 minor magic items, 11 lesser magic items, 3 greater magic items, 2 spell channeling mage weapons. Yield when unraveled: 0 relic fragments, 29 essence, 11 residue.
1955 LUCK
- 20k gold, 5 minor magic items, 7 lesser magic items. Yield when unraveled: 0 relic fragments, 10 essence, 24 residue.
- 20k gold, 3 minor magic items, 9 lesser magic items. Yield when unraveled: 0 relic fragments, 11 essence, 17 residue.
- 20k gold, 4 minor magic items, 9 lesser magic items. Yield when unraveled: 0 relic fragments, 9 essence, 24 residue.
- 20k gold, 3 minor magic items, 5 lesser magic items, 1 greater magic item, 2 spell channeling mage weapon wands. Yield when unraveled: 0 relic fragments, 4 essence, 28 residue.
As my guildmates can attest, I tend to save looted items that many others would just pass by or unravel. However, there wasn't one single piece of loot in these 9 chests that I was even tempted to save. Not one.
Also, as you can see, the quality of the loot, as translated into relic fragments, enchanted essence, and magical residue from unraveling it, seemed to go steadily downhill with each chest. The information here is listed in the exact order that I fished up the chests today.
As I mentioned earlier today in another post, the MIB chest loot is terrible if you lay it side by side with loot you can now get on Origin from dungeon or overland mobs, at least with the amounts of luck I was using. I was so excited to think that maybe fishing to get MIBs and then getting the chests would be a worthwhile use of time, but I fear nothing has really changed and it's still pretty much a waste of time.
755 LUCK
- 20k gold, 5 minor magic items, 5 lesser magic items, 1 greater magic item, 1 spell channeling mage weapon wand. Yield when unraveled: 2 relic fragments, 9 essence, 19 residue.
1355 LUCK
- 20k gold, 7 minor magic items, 4 lesser magic items, 1 spell channeling mage weapon . Yield when unraveled: 0 relic fragments, 11 essence, 22 residue.
- 20k gold, 4 minor magic items, 8 lesser magic items, no wands. Yield when unraveled: 0 relic fragments, 15 essence, 19 residue.
- 30k gold, 2 minor magic items, 10 lesser magic items, 3 greater magic items, 2 spell channeling mage weapon wands. Yield when unraveled: 0 relic fragments, 27 essence, 17 residue.
- 30k gold, 2 minor magic items, 11 lesser magic items, 3 greater magic items, 2 spell channeling mage weapons. Yield when unraveled: 0 relic fragments, 29 essence, 11 residue.
1955 LUCK
- 20k gold, 5 minor magic items, 7 lesser magic items. Yield when unraveled: 0 relic fragments, 10 essence, 24 residue.
- 20k gold, 3 minor magic items, 9 lesser magic items. Yield when unraveled: 0 relic fragments, 11 essence, 17 residue.
- 20k gold, 4 minor magic items, 9 lesser magic items. Yield when unraveled: 0 relic fragments, 9 essence, 24 residue.
- 20k gold, 3 minor magic items, 5 lesser magic items, 1 greater magic item, 2 spell channeling mage weapon wands. Yield when unraveled: 0 relic fragments, 4 essence, 28 residue.
Err, no. From what Poo tells me, treasure chest loot also looks exceedingly pathetic next to dungeon loot. See the thread he started about it earlier today.. I think he might be doing some more tonight after his kids go to bed.
The EC client with Pinco's UI sorts loot for you.
Is there a link to Pinco's UI? Since I'm gonna be chaining her tomorrow, might as well use it once she dies.
Anyone gotten a Paragon Chest yet? I killed A LOT of Ancient Lich (Paragon) today and not a single chest. While I have not actually went hunting in a pretty long time I am sure I would have gotten 10 or so in the past. Removing them from the game would actually be a neat move to turn them collectible. I did get several T-Maps though and in the past I noticed I was more likely to get a Chest with a map inside than a lone map on a Paragon.
I very well may have just been unlucky.
I very well may have just been unlucky.
Kyronix, finding multiple no-magical-property items on controller corpses, e.g., multiple pieces of jewelry, armor, weapons on one corpse have no magical properties.
Logged in to Europa hour ago, no p86 yet. There was no maintenance or today is not tomorrow?
So...... Now your saying I'd be better off just throwing them away for points?
Kyronix, I wasn't going to report this but I noticed it in tc and was going to take advantage of it but you can instantly remount a war steed after being dismounted. Im hoping this intentional but I dont see it being likely.
I have gotten a chest from a blood elemental paragon earlier today, 1/5 paragons I killed dropped one, farmed for about a half hour-ish.
cool..good to know
