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Ultima Online Future?

How Has Ultima Online Got To You?

  • Better

    Votes: 22 32.4%
  • No Difference

    Votes: 12 17.6%
  • Worse

    Votes: 34 50.0%

  • Total voters
    68
  • Poll closed .

azmodanb

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used to tame horses and sell em at brit bank?

well now you can tame greater dragons and sell em in luna..

used to take months to make an all 70's lrc suit?

well now it takes.months to build an all 70's.. lrc ..mana gen ..lrc .. eater suit.

all the same stuff exists... just changed. you can still take animals and sell em... just different ones...

you can still spend months working a suit... just different ones.

back then a 70's Lrc suit was what we strived for... now its more...

pvp suits and high end pvm suits are and will always be the best of the best and will take time to make.

things have just changed and expanded.

UO has tons of time left... every year someone posts about how much longer it has. UO has just as many dooms dayers as real life heh someday someone will be right... we just gotta wait and see.
 

Pinco

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ESO has one of the best implementations of the water effects in the rain. If possible, put these effects and other weather effects in now!
yeah, right, like if I can modify the client... :D
besides, there are several other more important features that must be done before the aesthetic changes, and even those may never see the light of day :(
 

hen

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The game is in a death spiral. I left a few months ago, mainly for two reasons. The lack of players on Drachenfels and the inability of the skeleton crew dev team to do anything about the bleeding away of the player base.
Messana's comment "This is a 17 year old game" was the end for me. That was the day I started mothballing my stuff.
We have went from expansions to boosters to a deco pack. The dungeon revamp has been cancelled with no reason given why.
With a few exceptions ( Exodus encounter), the content over the last couple of years has been dross or problematic at best. Wrong is a mess, Despise is a mess. Virtue v Vice is just a steaming pile of poo so far.
Don't get me wrong, I am sure the few remaining team members are doing their best, but this is true maintenance mode and it's time the players woke up to that.
 

Aran

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The game is in a death spiral. I left a few months ago, mainly for two reasons. The lack of players on Drachenfels and the inability of the skeleton crew dev team to do anything about the bleeding away of the player base.
Messana's comment "This is a 17 year old game" was the end for me. That was the day I started mothballing my stuff.
We have went from expansions to boosters to a deco pack. The dungeon revamp has been cancelled with no reason given why.
With a few exceptions ( Exodus encounter), the content over the last couple of years has been dross or problematic at best. Wrong is a mess, Despise is a mess. Virtue v Vice is just a steaming pile of poo so far.
Don't get me wrong, I am sure the few remaining team members are doing their best, but this is true maintenance mode and it's time the players woke up to that.
I hadn't realized you were even still playing, that was actually more news than the fact that you quit
 

Deraj

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Will Ultima Online have a few more years left?

After playing the game for 7 years in my honest opinion i believe Ultima Online have gone from Great to Terrible, when i first joined there used to be so much to do, i used to be able to tame horses and sell them at Britain Bank! i used to spend at least a month or more trying to make a full 70 suit with 100% LRC it was great! and now all i have to do is go and buy one for 10k? what has this game turned into? i would like other peoples opinions on this and i am wondering how long Ultima Online has left in its self before the game fads away?

I want to take a little time to express my feelings and tell Ultima Online how i feel and what i think needs improving and Updating so here goes...

Things have came into this game that i think never should have.. this game is a old style game, Swords and old Wizardry and so on.. what has happened... there is now Imbuing? Reforging? And More!! why has all this been added? this has changed the game a hell of a lot! some people will say.. yes i love the new items but old players that know how the game used to be should know how much fun it was trying to get item and make good suits!

I believe that Ultima Online have gone down hill very fast in the past 2 years, maybe Ultima Team have gone through some changes and yes maybe they have had to cut back on staff and other things BUT this does not mean Ultima Online paying customers have to suffer? i think Ultima Online are adding things to this game that is changing it from a RP Old School Game to a up to date Game? i think that Ultima Online need to ask there paying customers if there ideas are good maybe do a Poll, i know for a Fact that Ultima Team cant win on everything as there will always be someone who will complain about something BUT all i am saying is this game is turning... well... Dead? i play Europa myself when i was here 7 years ago i could not move! there was people everywhere... But... Now... i jump for joy when i see 1 person!.. i have a few friends that have left this game and gone to other games and they all say the same old thing... the game is not how it used to be... this is no longer the Ultima Online i know... So i ask why? why is this not the Ultima Online they used to know? they reply with this... Ultima Online used to be one of them games where when you started playing you could not stop! I used to be exited to get home from work JUST so i could play Ultima Online.. But near the end i got bored.. people left.. things got stupid... Ultima Online team just stopped with the fun they used to do.. to much changed and not for the good... So i sat down and i had a think to myself wonder why they say this and then i went through the old memories i used to have at Brit Bank and with the 100's of people i used to play with and how the game used to run... and i think to myself i see what they mean.... So i ask you Ultima Online players? What do you think? what do you make of the past few years this game has changed?
If you had made this post in 2007, I would have been first in line to agree with you. I quit then; fed up with what I considered and still consider to be the lowest point of the game (which, ironically was 7 years ago and when you considered the game to be "great"). Having come back since then I would say the game has improved. Imbuing and reforging has been a much needed improvement, cutting away the BS of digging through piles and piles of unforgivably bad loot and giving players the ability to truly hone their template through crafting. This isn't to say the game doesn't have numerous problems - a lack of players and dead shards being chief among them. But for now this quaint little game for all its woes likely has many years to go at the very least.
 

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Don't get me wrong, I am sure the few remaining team members are doing their best, but this is true maintenance mode and it's time the players woke up to that.
If this is the case, we sure didn't get the memo. Nothing about what's currently slated in Pub 86 says "maintenance mode". I hope you'll come back and give everything a try when it hits production :)
 

Eärendil

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Kyronix, I hope you simply ignore all these doomsday-prophets and listen only to constructive suggestions. This board is full of pessimistic crybabies and demanding billionaires. They are in no way representative for the player-base. And by the way: Folks, stop complaining and enjoy the remaining years of UO - whether it will be 2 or another 17. Nothing in life is forever and nothing is petfect. As in RL it all depends on your attitude. And it is not very intelligent to go to a funeral before your friend is dead. Negativism is often a trigger for negative things to come - even umplanned. So, as I always say: Think about your attitude.

P.S.: Mobile Client with some ADVERTISING will give a glorious future!
 

Jerec KTM

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Kyronix, I hope you simply ignore all these doomsday-prophets and listen only to constructive suggestions. This board is full of pessimistic crybabies and demanding billionaires. They are in no way representative for the player-base. And by the way: Folks, stop complaining and enjoy the remaining years of UO - whether it will be 2 or another 17. Nothing in life is forever and nothing is petfect. As in RL it all depends on your attitude. And it is not very intelligent to go to a funeral before your friend is dead. Negativism is often a trigger for negative things to come - even umplanned. So, as I always say: Think about your attitude.

P.S.: Mobile Client with some ADVERTISING will give a glorious future!
Cause drinking the kool-aid solves all the world's problems? Let's hastag activism this thing! #UltimaOnlineHasNoFlaws

The devs need a thick skin. They are working on a 17 year old game. Let that sink in, seventeen friggin years. That means you've got a really devoted playerbase. You NEED to at least give them some voice in things and keep a very OPEN and CLEAR line of communication to them if you want to keep it going.

Come on, look at the Trade Quest thread. It starts off with lots of good suggestions, some of them very good on a way to get actual merchants involved in it. My favorite being making exceptional items give a bonus or something. But that can't be.. why? Because it is already on Test Center which pretty much means "in the can." That "in the can" inflexibility could have been avoided if they had told us about the system they were close to putting on Test Center and the players could have suggested this then, and we would have a potentially cool new system based on trade not leaving out crafters.
 
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Eärendil

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You are right. But there is a difference between problem-oriented discussion or criticism and
doomsday-atmosphere, selfish lamento and rage-quit.
 

Eärendil

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Ok, lemme give you one add-on to my argument: What has changed that justifies so much depression?

Are we still fishing like in recent years? Aye!
Are we still tending plants? Indeed!
Are we decorating our homes? Of course!
Are there still monsters outside worth ot fight. Oh, yes!
Do we still have ideas for new chars with new stuff? All the day!
Enough IDOCs to make nice pray? Ssssh, sure!
Friends around for chatting? Thank god!
Are we still restocking our shops? Yes!
Are there new presents and stuff coming in from the Devs - yes, even if I dont need it! (Exodus, Shadowlords, Blackthorn...)...

So, NOTHING has changed. The game is the same like it was 1, 2, 3 years ago. Why all the complaints? Bugs? We have always had bugs! Problems with patches? Nothing new! PVP-players complaining about felucca, balance, playstyles - nothing new. Economy completely twisted? For years...

If you ask me, I can enjoy the status quo of this game for MANY MORE YEARS even if they were in maintenance mode - and they are not. They gave us TONS of new content EVERY YEAR. And what are they guys doing? Talking about doomsday...

Sorry, I do not understand it. And I never will. Maybe my brain works differently... Perhaps I am crazy and the crybabies are the "normal people"

:gee:
 

Uvtha

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Ok, lemme give you one add-on to my argument: What has changed that justifies so much depression?

Are we still fishing like in recent years? Aye!
Are we still tending plants? Indeed!
Are we decorating our homes? Of course!
Are there still monsters outside worth ot fight. Oh, yes!
Do we still have ideas for new chars with new stuff? All the day!
Enough IDOCs to make nice pray? Ssssh, sure!
Friends around for chatting? Thank god!
Are we still restocking our shops? Yes!
Are there new presents and stuff coming in from the Devs - yes, even if I dont need it! (Exodus, Shadowlords, Blackthorn...)...

So, NOTHING has changed. The game is the same like it was 1, 2, 3 years ago. Why all the complaints? Bugs? We have always had bugs! Problems with patches? Nothing new! PVP-players complaining about felucca, balance, playstyles - nothing new. Economy completely twisted? For years...

If you ask me, I can enjoy the status quo of this game for MANY MORE YEARS even if they were in maintenance mode - and they are not. They gave us TONS of new content EVERY YEAR. And what are they guys doing? Talking about doomsday...

Sorry, I do not understand it. And I never will. Maybe my brain works differently... Perhaps I am crazy and the crybabies are the "normal people"

:gee:
It's not that hard to understand, not everyone is interested in the same things you are. You are having fun, and feel like you have a lot to do, and that's great, but not everyone feels that way.
And no, they don't give us "TONS" of content every year. They give us some... certainly not "TONS", and if it's content you aren't interested in, then its like 5-10 months until the next publish comes out to wait and hope that there will be something there that will interest you.

Really this year has added very little. The last publish was last year (blackthorn/refinements). Since then I really don't think we have gotten any remarkable content additions have we? Honest question, I haven't played this year hardly at all since up to this month... because of lack of stuff to do.

Even when we do get new content its not "TONS". An expansion adds "TONS" of content, and we haven't had an addition anywhere near that size since High Seas, which was like 1/2 or 1/3 an expansion, and that was 4 years ago.

This new publish isn't adding that much content either. Global loot can't really be considered new content, it's not new, it's just putting the only useful loot everywhere, and that's an important update... but not "new content".
The traders quest is nice, but its just a very simple delivery quest system.
VvV is a fairly substantial hunk of new content... but only if you pvp, and if it hits live shards before 2015 I would be thoroughly shocked.

Don't get me wrong, I am glad they are still working on the game, and I accept that the additions are going to be slow coming the way things are, but I won't pretend that we clearly are getting waaaay less content added to the game than we used to.
 

Eärendil

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Sure, mate. Depends. I can imagine fishing, housing, mining, crafting... I can imagine alot!
 

petemage

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Maybe it's an mantra from a forgotten time, but the UO teams seems to hate simple publishes.

We could have global loot in July, Traders Quests in September and maybe VvV in early 2015.

But instead of going the simple road we need to hold the stuff 95% of the game population will experience back (new loot), and keep working on a system maybe 5% will use (VvV). idk...

Also there is a chance they mess up the EC with the UI update. The item hovering that they broke and bandaided with the latest patches is not as working as it was before with legacy containers, and I doubt anyone will ever fix it properly again.

Just to think about. When Pub 86 hits production maybe(!) in 2015 (two more VvV phases??), what would be a reasonable date for pub87? I feel it's more like 2016.
 

Smoot

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Ok, lemme give you one add-on to my argument: What has changed that justifies so much depression?

Are we still fishing like in recent years? Aye!
Are we still tending plants? Indeed!
Are we decorating our homes? Of course!
Are there still monsters outside worth ot fight. Oh, yes!
Do we still have ideas for new chars with new stuff? All the day!
Enough IDOCs to make nice pray? Ssssh, sure!
Friends around for chatting? Thank god!
Are we still restocking our shops? Yes!
Are there new presents and stuff coming in from the Devs - yes, even if I dont need it! (Exodus, Shadowlords, Blackthorn...)...

So, NOTHING has changed. The game is the same like it was 1, 2, 3 years ago. Why all the complaints? Bugs? We have always had bugs! Problems with patches? Nothing new! PVP-players complaining about felucca, balance, playstyles - nothing new. Economy completely twisted? For years...

If you ask me, I can enjoy the status quo of this game for MANY MORE YEARS even if they were in maintenance mode - and they are not. They gave us TONS of new content EVERY YEAR. And what are they guys doing? Talking about doomsday...

Sorry, I do not understand it. And I never will. Maybe my brain works differently... Perhaps I am crazy and the crybabies are the "normal people"

:gee:
This is why alot of people leave. The things you listed arent exactly challenging competitive gameplay. ( i agree you are right about all of them however, except the one that there are monsters worth a fight. Bosses rewards in general are basically not worth the time it takes to do them. Especially the newer content, those items are generally not useable for the most part)

I understand the players frustration. A very large portion of the UO playerbase have been unhappy with the direction UO has moved towards for some time now, as can be seen by with the exodus to popular free shards.

I myself still enjoy it, i do try to keep my virtual UO world down to a manageable size however so when the time has come to call it it wont be as hard to clear out my accounts.
 

DJAd

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Bosses rewards in general are basically not worth the time it takes to do them. Especially the newer content, those items are generally not useable for the most part)
Yep I agree. I find doing peerless bosses a total grind. It takes longer to farm the keys than the actual fight itself then as you say the drops are pretty dam lame. I prefer the bosses/monster you can just turn up and fight. Navrey, slasher etc. Don't need to farm the keys. Just turn up and jump in!
 

Eärendil

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This is why alot of people leave. The things you listed arent exactly challenging competitive gameplay. ( i agree you are right about all of them however, except the one that there are monsters worth a fight. Bosses rewards in general are basically not worth the time it takes to do them. Especially the newer content, those items are generally not useable for the most part)

I understand the players frustration. A very large portion of the UO playerbase have been unhappy with the direction UO has moved towards for some time now, as can be seen by with the exodus to popular free shards.

I myself still enjoy it, i do try to keep my virtual UO world down to a manageable size however so when the time has come to call it it wont be as hard to clear out my accounts.
I understand. But what I not understand: Why competition? With whom? For what purpose? Penis-Length-Comparison? Thats why people play games? Ok, if that is true, we are indeed living in completely different worlds. But I must admit, I am playing computer games for 30 years now and I never sought games that were "competitive". So, sorry for you guys. But me and my friends (alot of people on DF) are happy this way. We do not PVP, we just live our hobbit-lives and enjoy them. For us, UO is like "the sims", hehehe...
 

Goldberg-Chessy

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Honestly, I feel every PvP update is wasted dev time. But someone enjoys it.
How jaded and consumed does one have to be to be so constantly negative and worried about something that one does not even partake in?
 

Smoot

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I understand. But what I not understand: Why competition? With whom? For what purpose? Penis-Length-Comparison? Thats why people play games? Ok, if that is true, we are indeed living in completely different worlds. But I must admit, I am playing computer games for 30 years now and I never sought games that were "competitive". So, sorry for you guys. But me and my friends (alot of people on DF) are happy this way. We do not PVP, we just live our hobbit-lives and enjoy them. For us, UO is like "the sims", hehehe...
Extremely short answer. YES. Thats why a very large portion of gamers play games. UO in the last few years has leaned more towards your style of gameplay (which is totally fine for you and many others btw) It has Not done a very good job of satisfying people who want to do more than very casual pvm content, deco, plants/fishing and whatnot.

These types of players are by far a minority in UO now, because most of them have left for freeshards and other games, which is a shame, but its just how it is.

Keep in mind, the devs spent alot of time on the revamped loot, which is very powerful. Whats the point of having all that new gear if there is not challenging content and a rewarding pvp system? You dont need that gear for anything else in the game. The most challenging thing ive actually needed shame loot for is blackthorns dungeons captains, but even that has been dominated and the market destroyed by afk tamers in imbued suits.
 
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Goodmann

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It's not that hard to understand, not everyone is interested in the same things you are. You are having fun, and feel like you have a lot to do, and that's great, but not everyone feels that way.
And no, they don't give us "TONS" of content every year. They give us some... certainly not "TONS", and if it's content you aren't interested in, then its like 5-10 months until the next publish comes out to wait and hope that there will be something there that will interest you.
Really this year has added very little. The last publish was last year (blackthorn/refinements). Since then I really don't think we have gotten any remarkable content additions have we? Honest question, I haven't played this year hardly at all since up to this month... because of lack of stuff to do.

Even when we do get new content its not "TONS". An expansion adds "TONS" of content, and we haven't had an addition anywhere near that size since High Seas, which was like 1/2 or 1/3 an expansion, and that was 4 years ago.

This new publish isn't adding that much content either. Global loot can't really be considered new content, it's not new, it's just putting the only useful loot everywhere, and that's an important update... but not "new content".
The traders quest is nice, but its just a very simple delivery quest system.
VvV is a fairly substantial hunk of new content... but only if you pvp, and if it hits live shards before 2015 I would be thoroughly shocked.

Don't get me wrong, I am glad they are still working on the game, and I accept that the additions are going to be slow coming the way things are, but I won't pretend that we clearly are getting waaaay less content added to the game than we used to.
Adding very little content is where I have problems. We are a subscription based MMO and a pretty high cost compared to other game. Yes the game is 17 years old, Yes there is lots to do BUT in 17 years you've done all of it and some.... There are some weeks i don't even log in bc it's the same old thing and I keep my subs running on multiple accounts for the hope they will add new content. Pub 86 will be nice and I think can float me for awhile so no complaints there. The current team is doing an awesome job with the skeleton crew they have but myself as a customer I want speedy updates/content and who doesn't
 

Eärendil

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Smoot, very cool answer. If all people would argue so seriously as you did, we would see more constructive threads and a far better atmosphere here. Thanks for your patience - I know my answers are provocative in some respects.
 

Aran

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How jaded and consumed does one have to be to be so constantly negative and worried about something that one does not even partake in?
I'm not worried about it. That's my point. I may find it a waste of time, but someone else doesn't, and enjoys the fact that they're working on PvP.

Is my use of the English language too difficult to follow? I'll try to be more clear when writing two simple sentences next time.
 

Uvtha

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Adding very little content is where I have problems. We are a subscription based MMO and a pretty high cost compared to other game. Yes the game is 17 years old, Yes there is lots to do BUT in 17 years you've done all of it and some.... There are some weeks i don't even log in bc it's the same old thing and I keep my subs running on multiple accounts for the hope they will add new content. Pub 86 will be nice and I think can float me for awhile so no complaints there. The current team is doing an awesome job with the skeleton crew they have but myself as a customer I want speedy updates/content and who doesn't
Yeah sounds about right to me. I tend to save my game play up myself, and just play a lot for like a month, then not again for another 6 months to a year.... unless they add in something that sounds fun.
 

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Maybe it's an mantra from a forgotten time, but the UO teams seems to hate simple publishes.

We could have global loot in July, Traders Quests in September and maybe VvV in early 2015.

But instead of going the simple road we need to hold the stuff 95% of the game population will experience back (new loot), and keep working on a system maybe 5% will use (VvV). idk...

Also there is a chance they mess up the EC with the UI update. The item hovering that they broke and bandaided with the latest patches is not as working as it was before with legacy containers, and I doubt anyone will ever fix it properly again.

Just to think about. When Pub 86 hits production maybe(!) in 2015 (two more VvV phases??), what would be a reasonable date for pub87? I feel it's more like 2016.
This this this!

The way I see it global loot SHOULD have been out by now, Traders Quests should be very close to ready, VvV is quite far away.

Putting them all in the same publish for no real reason, as they aren't linked together even a little, is just silly, especially considering it's been 9 months since the last publish.
 

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This this this!

The way I see it global loot SHOULD have been out by now
No it shouldn't have been. Your words are from someone who clearly hasnt done any testing.
 

Ender

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No it shouldn't have been. Your words are from someone who clearly hasnt done any testing.
It wasn't AVAILABLE for testing until recently because they held it back for all the other stuff. That was my point.

And I did do some testing and I didn't see any real issues with it other than, like Shame and the other revamped dungeons, it didn't drop anything I would ever consider using.
 

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It wasn't AVAILABLE for testing until recently because they held it back for all the other stuff. That was my point.
And how in the world do you know that?
 

Promathia

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http://uo.com/article/Producer-Update-1
http://uo.com/article/Producer-Update-0

Note the changes in tense in the first one and the second, well, that should be obvious.

lol....

The Global Loot system is one of the biggest changes UO has had. There are many bugs and concerns to worry about, some which have been fixed.

Your endless whining on how long its taking, is so very annoying. Its clear you have hardly tested it, if you had you would see the obvious problems there were (Such as the overpowered Wisp items, or certain things that weren't getting global loot properly). With the latest update, seems a lot of it has been fixed, but still requires testing - hence its on TC.
 

Ender

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Still missing the point, but I wouldn't expect anything else from you by now.
 

Frodo The Great

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By looking at the poll i can see that 52.4% of Ultima Online players feel that Ultima Online is getting Worse.. on the other hand 30.2% Say better and 17.5% say there is no difference?
  1. Better
    19 vote(s)
    30.2%
  2. No Difference
    11 vote(s)
    17.5%
  3. *
    Worse
    33 vote(s)
    52.4%
i think us Players might have to take Ultima Online Advertisement into our own hands... Ultima Online is not Advertised anywhere! What do you think? get more plays into the game??
 

Dot_Warner

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By looking at the poll i can see that 52.4% of Ultima Online players sixty-three Stratics users who bothered to click a few buttons feel that Ultima Online is getting Worse.. on the other hand 30.2% Say better and 17.5% say there is no difference?
Fixed it for you.

Stratics posters are probably far less than 5% of UO players. This poll is hardly representative of what "UO players" think.
 

Picus at the office

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Fixed it for you.

Stratics posters are probably far less than 5% of UO players. This poll is hardly representative of what "UO players" think.
But this is the main forum used to talk about UO thus is it the only representative of UO that most people see. 66 people took the time to answer the poll and more than 50% thought the game was worse in some aspect, that is bad no matter how you attempt to spin it.

What's bad, who knows but when 50% of people think something smells bad it just does.
 

Dot_Warner

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I'm not saying what the poll indicates isn't bad, or that I don't necessarily agree with it.

I am saying, however, that the now 66 respondents don't represent the player base as a whole. Out of all the people I know who play UO, several read Stratics, but only 4 of them bother to post here. A sample of a fraction of a minority is less than useless.

No poll on Stratics will every be truly meaningful. That isn't spin, its called being objective.
 

Jerec KTM

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But this is the main forum used to talk about UO thus is it the only representative of UO that most people see. 66 people took the time to answer the poll and more than 50% thought the game was worse in some aspect, that is bad no matter how you attempt to spin it.

What's bad, who knows but when 50% of people think something smells bad it just does.
internet polls are worthless.
 

FrejaSP

Queen of The Outlaws
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*nods* I suspect I probably wouldn't be here today if PKs still wandered freely in the land. I occasionally miss some aspects of living in the pre-Trammel world, but that isn't one of them.
I would not had been here if it was not for Siege. I tried to keep playing with my friends on Atlantic and DF but Siege got my heart.
 

Smoot

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I for one know that stratics polls are worthless (and always include a disclaimer saying such in my polls)

However this brings up a VERY BIG issue.

The Devs seem to think that posting on stratics = player communication.

Clearly its DOES NOT

I dont understand why important updates are released on stratics, but not on the LOGIN screen where all but a small minority get their info.
 
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