Account Bound Gold

[Petra Fyde]

I still dont understand all the ways they will remove the gold...
I mean when we do a champ the gold pops on the ground.... what about that? will it then be a credit thing like the hunts the EM's put on? Then someone wont get squat......
ok I will wait but they best know how to remove this change if a fiasco happens......
This is one of those things that has a good ring to it but I still have that tugging little thread of doubt that is bugging the hell out of me...

My guess - and it is only a guess, would be that gold drops will remain as is, but that when the gold reaches your bank it will be converted to a number instead of gold pieces.
As an example - you do a champ and pick up 25k of the gold. You then take (or send with a BoS) that gold to the bank where it is added to your account's cash total.
When you take real money to the real bank, you don't have a bankbox full of dollars after all, the cash is just credited to your account as numbers?

 

[Warpig Inc]

I still dont understand all the ways they will remove the gold...
I mean when we do a champ the gold pops on the ground.... what about that? will it then be a credit thing like the hunts the EM's put on? Then someone wont get squat......
ok I will wait but they best know how to remove this change if a fiasco happens......
This is one of those things that has a good ring to it but I still have that tugging little thread of doubt that is bugging the hell out of me...

They said there will still be gold coins in the game. The need for space saving checks and a means of transfering large ammounts of gold would be a characters/account hidden number for purchases. Coin piles for deco and small trades. No more checks - nadda, nilch and poof vannished. Those with white check might have issues, but shouldn't have issues with something that was a temp glitch or game mechanics abuse being absorbed back into the pixel matrix. Maybe before the great conversion they supply a public barrel that changes checks into a purely deco item with no gold value. Retitled they wont need to be in a backpack or bankbox for gold totalling and be subjected to being wiped from the game.

Really hard would it be for a code mage to come on with a topic like this and just sweep some guessing under the carpet? Just come out and say this will be the new money system and any check not in a bank box will become deco paper that wont revert to coin again. So fill boat holds,houses and beetles with gold coins or load up a vendor with your hoard. Anyone that would find this conversion requirement tiresome and don't welcome the change most likely didn't honestly earn/work that hard for the gold anyways.

The other big question that should be confirmed or put to a public ingame vote is if the account bound gold would bridge shards. I would not have a problem with it. Just would have to buy a transfer tokens for any sweet buys an other shards. Thats after booting a character of my main shard by transfer.

Just need to remember to still have the bank "balance" still work. Having all around see the minter broadcast your current holdings is the ego stroking that some need. I perfer "saldo"

 

[Yadd of Legends]

The only way I would go for it willingly, is if Account bound mean account bound, and not account/shard bound. If my chars are making gps on legends, and it was available for one to spend on Atlantic (without having to transfer) I'd be alll for it. As for transferring between accounts, that would be easy. Just have the needy account sell the rich account a lockpick for 50 mil

I'm not sure what to think of this idea of linking gold to accounts across shards - yes and no. My new mage on Atlantic is up to making 50k gold an hour now, and it's a challenge buying jewels to train the imbuer. My sampire on Legends can make 250k gold in an hour killing miasmas. Having my sampire on Legends make the gold for my new chars on Atlantic - or just making her millions available to the characters on Atlantic - would change the gameplay on Atlantic drastically. Is that good or bad? I can't decide. Figuring out ways to make more gold per hour has been one of the challenges that has made my Atlantic experiment interesting. I see an upside and a downside to making gold linked to accounts across shards, and I'm split on the question at the moment.

 

[The Old Man]

I like the idea of linking gold across shards, but...

If shards were linked and (for example) Atlantic crashed and they needed to revert a couple days then life gets complicated.
Currently they just go to a backup. If shards are linked then they would have to unwind the transactions.
If Yr Atlantic char had deposited gold then after the revert that would 'not have happened' but the gold spent by chars on other shards would still have been spent. Bank of UO does'nt give overdrafts!

Think of the current problem if you char xfer off of (for example) Atlantic, which then crashes. If they need to revert to a time prior to when the char xfer occured then (without intervention) yr char would exist on both shards and even when one of the duplicate characters is deleted the dupe goods may already have been sold.

Maybe wrong - But I don't think you can (realistically) get around that.

The Old Man

 

[Cyrah]

I am in favor of account bound gold. If there is no way ever that this could be exploited.

I am so sick of cheaters and liars in UO.

 

[Zosimus]

Some of you are so over thinking this.

Some are already saying the sky is falling .

The subject was touched upon but not discussed in details so why worry/panic/argue/ now before they even post what the system will be yet and how it works.


Most other games that have account bound gold system works very well and no issues.

When you loot items and gold in these games the amount automatically goes into your bank. So if I had 2 million gold on my GW2 and I kill something and I get 1 gold off of it and a weapon for example. The weapon goes in my backpack and the gold is added to my total that shows on my backpack so now I have 2,000,001 gold. Thats how it works in GW2 and all of my characters has access to the gold but if I need something from the bank for any of my characters I still have to go there to get items and such stored in there.


So the sky isn't falling but change is needed and games has to change. There is no hidden fact about the duping of checks and gold. If the gold piles and checks are so important to keep in the game as a monetary value instead of decoration, then why should the devs even try to fix issues and bugs in the game at all if nobody wants anything to change?

I wonder why the threads remind me of the LoTR so much....."My precious!"

 

[Widow Maker]

My apologies, this statement was meant for this thread, I posted it in the wrong thread.

Jade brought up a VERY valid concern about same named characters on different shards.. and then when you shard xfer one of the characters. I doubt she remembers me, but I remember her from my Sonoma days. She is a pretty sharp cookie, even if we generally played on opposite sides of the gate.

Coding wise, given the current state of the source code for this game.. eh.. I would highly recommend a heaping helping of caution with a rollback option ready to go and someone who is ready to use it. I know I had problems, and not small ones, when I used to do that very same name character scenario xfer as the system currently stands. Her concern is quite valid.

To the Devs: Just be careful. These folks have a good part of their lifetime entwined with this game. Take good care of them. I know you are a sharp group of folks.. I do not think you are not.. but... Don't mess this one up.

This game has withstood so many obstacles in it's past... and it has taken a toll on her, to be honest. But, she is still kicking and making money. A mess up on people's in-game money could very well be an unrecoverable error. The one cardinal rule for all types of games; Don't mess with my money. You can do a lot of other stuff but mess with my game money.. we're done.

Cardinal rule. No exceptions. Not when it comes to this. Don't forget.

 

[Widow Maker]

Some of you are so over thinking this.

Some are already saying the sky is falling .

The subject was touched upon but not discussed in details so why worry/panic/argue/ now before they even post what the system will be yet and how it works.


Most other games that have account bound gold system works very well and no issues.

When you loot items and gold in these games the amount automatically goes into your bank. So if I had 2 million gold on my GW2 and I kill something and I get 1 gold off of it and a weapon for example. The weapon goes in my backpack and the gold is added to my total that shows on my backpack so now I have 2,000,001 gold. Thats how it works in GW2 and all of my characters has access to the gold but if I need something from the bank for any of my characters I still have to go there to get items and such stored in there.


So the sky isn't falling but change is needed and games has to change. There is no hidden fact about the duping of checks and gold. If the gold piles and checks are so important to keep in the game as a monetary value instead of decoration, then why should the devs even try to fix issues and bugs in the game at all if nobody wants anything to change?

I wonder why the threads remind me of the LoTR so much....."My precious!"

Zos, you are correct.. this can work and absolutely should be done. It has so many benefits to it and is a good change. The caution comes from concerns on making it work and getting done.. with the game's current code. It is not a small task, and you are dealing with the most sensitive of player's items... their gold. Treading carefully and lightly would be the required order of the day.

 

[Zosimus]

I totally agree with you @Widow Maker and the Devs should be careful especially with the old code that is the base of the game which may cause issues.

My issue is when things like this are asked by for the player base, and not all agree with change which is understandable, that they don't even give the Devs a chance to explain/how it will work/ how it will be implemented/ and a back up system if any issues some look for faults before they even have a chance to explain it