Questions about the damage eater mod.

[Bruce Dickinson]

From my understanding, damage eater works as follows:

The cap for the all damage eater is 18%.
The cap for elemental eater is 30%.
Elemental eater stacks with itself, but the all damage eater does not stack with the elemental eater (whichever one is higher will take priority).

Therefore, I should really only be concerned with getting the all damage eater to 18%, as additional eaters will just be a wasted mod unless I stack more than 18%.

Do I have the correct understanding?

Second question, what is the best combination of reforging options/kit to simply get the damage eater mod? I would like if possible to have an item of say 15% damage eater and nothing else (so I could imbue it).

 

[G.v.P]

More on Damage Eater recently from:
http://stratics.com/community/threads/question-about-eaters-hitting-max-stored-charges.306042/

And yes, I would focus on the all Eater, but max Kinetic has been my goal because the majority of PVM damage will usually be physical (it's very dependent on the base damage of whatever you will be fighting).

 

[Vexxed]

More on Damage Eater recently from:
http://stratics.com/community/threads/question-about-eaters-hitting-max-stored-charges.306042/

And yes, I would focus on the all Eater, but max Kinetic has been my goal because the majority of PVM damage will usually be physical (it's very dependent on the base damage of whatever you will be fighting).

Can any who's done some testing Confirm how Kinecic Eater functions.. or more specifically what TRIGGERS Kinetic Eater? I know there is a common misconception that it's PHYSICAL damage, but then I was told it was ANY damage delivered by a "Weapon Hit" (including monsters "Wrestling" attacks hitting you.). Anyway I got as far as putting 100% elemental weapons on a character and it did indeed TRIGGER Kinetic Eater but This was way back when Slasher Came out (Lavaliere Necklace etc) Can anyone tell me FOR SURE What kind of damage sources Trigger Kinetic Eater?

 

[Nyses]

Can any who's done some testing Confirm how Kinecic Eater functions.. or more specifically what TRIGGERS Kinetic Eater? I know there is a common misconception that it's PHYSICAL damage, but then I was told it was ANY damage delivered by a "Weapon Hit" (including monsters "Wrestling" attacks hitting you.). Anyway I got as far as putting 100% elemental weapons on a character and it did indeed TRIGGER Kinetic Eater but This was way back when Slasher Came out (Lavaliere Necklace etc) Can anyone tell me FOR SURE What kind of damage sources Trigger Kinetic Eater?

Kinetic is physical damage. The DAMAGE eater mod is like a super slayer for eaters, it triggers on all damage types.

 

[G.v.P]

Can any who's done some testing Confirm how Kinecic Eater functions.. or more specifically what TRIGGERS Kinetic Eater? I know there is a common misconception that it's PHYSICAL damage, but then I was told it was ANY damage delivered by a "Weapon Hit" (including monsters "Wrestling" attacks hitting you.). Anyway I got as far as putting 100% elemental weapons on a character and it did indeed TRIGGER Kinetic Eater but This was way back when Slasher Came out (Lavaliere Necklace etc) Can anyone tell me FOR SURE What kind of damage sources Trigger Kinetic Eater?

Hm, if I'm following you correctly--you equipped a 100% elemental weapon--what you equip for a weapon doesn't influence how eaters work, it's what damage comes your way.

For example, the Slasher does an equal split of 20% physical, 20% fire, 20% cold, 20% poison, and 20% energy damage with its melee hits. The 20% of the damage that is physical will then be affected by the Kinetic mod, and return health to you. Hope that helps.

 

[Vexxed]

Hm, if I'm following you correctly--you equipped a 100% elemental weapon--what you equip for a weapon doesn't influence how eaters work, it's what damage comes your way.

For example, the Slasher does an equal split of 20% physical, 20% fire, 20% cold, 20% poison, and 20% energy damage with its melee hits. The 20% of the damage that is physical will then be affected by the Kinetic mod, and return health to you. Hope that helps.

Hmmm I guess I wasnt clear.. I equipped a 100% fire weapon on charavter A and the damaged character B with that weapon. Character B was wearing only some Kinetic Eater which did TRIGGER. This leads me to believe Kinetic IS NOT simply physical dmg but more likely any damaged delivered by a weapon hit (which might include a monsters wrestling attack even if the monster delivers say 100% poison dmg)... Anyway I tested this all ages ago and just wondering if anyone else can say for sure...(meaning YOU tested it...etc)..Thx

 

[G.v.P]

Hmmm I guess I wasnt clear.. I equipped a 100% fire weapon on charavter A and the damaged character B with that weapon. Character B was wearing only some Kinetic Eater which did TRIGGER. This leads me to believe Kinetic IS NOT simply physical dmg but more likely any damaged delivered by a weapon hit (which might include a monsters wrestling attack even if the monster delivers say 100% poison dmg)... Anyway I tested this all ages ago and just wondering if anyone else can say for sure...(meaning YOU tested it...etc)..Thx

Got ya now. Hm. Well, I'll try to test that after work. If Kinetic does in fact work on anything, then it's even better than I imagined :O. But, theoretically, it should be physical, as every other eater is covered by a generic name (Fire, Poison, etc.). If it's the same as Damage Eater, then that sounds like a bug in the code. Then again, I wonder if it also has to do with what kind of weapon specials might have been used? Although I feel as if most of them would be using direct damage. Hm.

 

[Vexxed]

Got ya now. Hm. Well, I'll try to test that after work. If Kinetic does in fact work on anything, then it's even better than I imagined :O. But, theoretically, it should be physical, as every other eater is covered by a generic name (Fire, Poison, etc.). If it's the same as Damage Eater, then that sounds like a bug in the code. Then again, I wonder if it also has to do with what kind of weapon specials might have been used? Although I feel as if most of them would be using direct damage. Hm.

Well.. point #1... They Called it KINETIC EATER... Not PHYSICAL Eater heh... I have to wonder if that was an intentional thing...
#2 I'm not saying that Kinectic Eater is actualy like Damage Eater All, just that it might only trigger when the damage is delivered via a weapon hit... Shot by archery / hit with melee weapon / hit with monsters wrestling attack etc... In my head at least those are all valid sources for the dictionary definition of Kinetic heh...

 

[Bruce Dickinson]

Alright, so what I was thinking is true then, no real point in getting anything past the all damage eater. So does anyone know the best runic to use for simply getting the damage eater mod? The goal would be to reforge an item and hopefully only get the damage eater 15% mod. I'm guessing a spined kit?

 

[Moldy Fishmonger]

Alright, so what I was thinking is true then, no real point in getting anything past the all damage eater. So does anyone know the best runic to use for simply getting the damage eater mod? The goal would be to reforge an item and hopefully only get the damage eater 15% mod. I'm guessing a spined kit?

For leather, a spined kit with powerful can get you 15% eater.