And it still can't be done automatically via legal means. Go ban those running scripts, and leave legitimate players be.
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Your obvious goal is to get this thread locked so no one else can state their opinion. You've stated yours, please move along now.
Going to ignore you now so I don't contribute to polluting this thread with responses to your off-topic discussions.
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Clearly you aren't even paying attention to names. Your eyes must get so red at the mere sight of anyone disagreeing.
"Negative" is appropriate when you're posting your opinion in contravention to Mesanna's sanction, then accusing others of "trolling" and "bashing" merely for expressing their opinion. And to point out your absurdity is hardly "off-topic." We are very much staying on topic, which is that Mesanna said it's ok, and therefore your opinion doesn't matter.
If you want to change that, then go get her job.
Hardly. You're the one who'll get it locked all by yourself.
Mesanna said it's ok. Therefore your opinion doesn't count.
How many times must that be said before it gets through to you?
And let me repeat some friendly advice: if you can't stand others disagreeing with you, let alone that we've proved you so flat-out wrong, then don't start threads. Once you saw Mesanna said heralds are ok, you should have just let this go.
Ask this would imply that you're using one herald. I'm sorry to inform you but when you dismiss it and call for a new one it is indeed a NEW npc. Hence why there is no actual cool down timer (except for the dismiss/summon) like there is on a single npc.
Talk about misreading something. Did I say you didn't have any, NO? I said you were not getting the price you wanted because there are so many out there. Guess you really need to go to school and relearn to read. Are you a DEV, NO, so as far as anybody knows these are acting as planed.
...you were saying?
What part of "running around and quickly speaking and targeting an NPC and then moving on to the next as fast as you can and going to the next area" is "mingling, chatting, having fun"?
What can we say? He's the guy who accuses us of trying to get the thread locked, when he wrote 10 hours ago,
- No one is "crying" over anything. Yes you are.
- The simple fact is that a herald was not intended for this and that there is no timer to trick or treat it. Are you a DEV? You state this as a fact and have no clue if it is intended or not. The Dark Lady says it is OK so you are WRONG.
- When people say "your opinion doesn't matter" or "stop crying" or "you're just not getting the gold," it does nothing but add garbage to a discussion. Guess the only opinion that matters on here is yours, do you own EA/UO/UOStratics, so the answer to that is NOT.
- Almost all of the negative posts were completely off topic, so I have to repeat myself to try and keep it on topic. This is not "crying." So any post on here that does not agree with you is negative and off topic, LOL You are the ONLY ONE ON HERE CRYING.
So you just repeat yourself and do not bother reading anything. Please go back to school and learn to read.
I can agree with you there, it is a new NPC that gets summoned. No argument here...
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I can honestly say that I've seen people running around Luna trick or treating and have stopped to converse with me. I believe this was the point of the poster you quoted.
Well I just sold a set for 100mil, so I guess you'd be incorrect about my intentions in this thread.
You shouldn't have protested so much. Even if we could believe you, it's clear that now that you used a herald to garner enough for yourself, you don't want anyone to have the same access.
I'm aware many people don't care, but if you allow people to not even leave their houses... Just letting bugs like this slide is just promoting further anti social item grinding behavior. I personally don't like that.
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I've been following this thread - not sure what to think or not. But - one thing that is obvious, is taht this method works for UO Assist - except dismissing. Now, that is a paid extra program to help build macros for uo and is accepted by EA.
I read anothe thred of one using EC that had set up a very nice macro, that will continuilly trick and treat waiting for next target. He said he used to jut run around heartwood, and that is actually faster than i can repeat this method.
Now - should thoose that use CC and have not paid for UOA complain of the macro u can put up in EC??? They have done a lot of times, and it leads nowhere. Nor can we complain for that player finding a way for EC to work as fast as it does.
Only thing i see with the trolling here, is that this thread is soon over if it continues as it has has turned.
I read anothe thred of one using EC that had set up a very nice macro, that will continuilly trick and treat waiting for next target. He said he used to jut run around heartwood, and that is actually faster than i can repeat this method.
Now - should thoose that use CC and have not paid for UOA complain of the macro u can put up in EC??? They have done a lot of times, and it leads nowhere. Nor can we complain for that player finding a way for EC to work as fast as it does.
Only thing i see with the trolling here, is that this thread is soon over if it continues as it has has turned.
Actually... I received an Email response from Mesanna that stated....
"Trick or Treating from Heralds is not an intended game mechanic & is considered a BUG & abusing it risks GM action being taken against your account"...
But like I said before... If they cannot even stop people for duping or abusing anything else that's considered a "BUG" then ultimately regardless of what the High-ups say it comes down to what the guy with the power does at the moment... Aka roll the dice with whatever GM shows up if your paged on bc we all know the GM's don't have a clue half the time. Sure if a GM ultimately does someting wrong you can probably get it fixed at some point but I'd guess that by then your looking at at least an effective 3 day ban etc....
You can already never interact with players if you so choose.
It would be nice if she actually came on here and stated it herself one way or the other.
Or even better- put it up on the splash screen at the start of the game.
I'm aware but letting things like this go promotes not interacting with people.
I also am not keen on the in game word of mouth clarifications. I understand if a person asks a question they will answer it in game, but its really annoying to have to take peoples word on this stuff.
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I use EC 90% of the time, and yea October 1st at about 12:30AM I made the same macro and began running around Ter Mur hitting 1 button targeting the next NPC and automatically trick or treating it. Is it faster than the herald method? Having done both, I can say no, it's not faster. Don't know why you think it is faster, but it's not. Eventually after you've trick or treated all the NPCs on your screen you have to continue running to find more.
Kudos on the trolling comment... was much needed.
Stating what, exactly? That it's allowed? Pretty sure that's been covered. That's not what this thread is about. It's about why it shouldn't be allowed and opinions for or against it.
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Years Ive been trick or treating going from town to town opening doors with my door macro walking in ....... hitting my macro
*trick or treat*
*smell my feet*
*give me something*
*good to eat*
I thought about doing with the herald, but what kinda fun would that be none at all.
I'm still getting candy and items
I have to run around targeting NPC, only once move to the next one
Herald u target get candy then you have to make it go poof, then bring it back thats 2 extra things you do for a piece of candy poof bring it back.
So I'm going to stick to the way I've been trick or treating its much easier, and faster for me.
*trick or treat*
*smell my feet*
*give me something*
*good to eat*
I thought about doing with the herald, but what kinda fun would that be none at all.
I'm still getting candy and items
I have to run around targeting NPC, only once move to the next one
Herald u target get candy then you have to make it go poof, then bring it back thats 2 extra things you do for a piece of candy poof bring it back.
So I'm going to stick to the way I've been trick or treating its much easier, and faster for me.
Evidently not, as someone has stated they received an email from Mesanna stating that it isn't.
Because someone stated Mesanna emailed them and stating that it isn't. Wheres the letter wheres the proof?
If its true why didn't she post it here on stratics for everyone to see?
Where's the proof she said it was? There really isn't proof either way, and at this point it's a toss up. Me? Given how other things have gone, I feel this is considered a bug and using it is an abuse of the system.
This tread started as someone who believed someone was abusing the system, someone else came and said Mesanna told them it was ok, then someone else came and said she said it wasn't.
What is sad is that there hasn't been an official word one way or the other.
From the other thread from yesterday and this thread there are 2 conflicting messages.
On the thread yesterday the person claimed that 2 GM's and a visit from Mesanna said there was no issue basically. I simplified it
This thread here an email was stating it was a bug that Viper received from Mesanna.
So it seems that Mesanna is keeping quiet on the subject and is fixing the issue since no word on it
or
It's really not an issue and the so called bug will run it's course this holiday season..
By now most players are doing this so prices will drop and gold is like breathing air in UO so I guess a 100 mil for a set is considered under price? lol There are others things to do in UO than just trick or treating.
I just don't understand the harsh stance on the issue in the first place. I mean the pixel addiction is truly at it's finest in UO. Instead of worrying about others getting or doing it a certain way that a person doesn't like. Just play the game as you want to and don't be hating on others if they have tons of pixel junk or not. I guess players always find a way to complain about anything still. Negativity at its best
On the thread yesterday the person claimed that 2 GM's and a visit from Mesanna said there was no issue basically. I simplified it
This thread here an email was stating it was a bug that Viper received from Mesanna.
So it seems that Mesanna is keeping quiet on the subject and is fixing the issue since no word on it
or
It's really not an issue and the so called bug will run it's course this holiday season..
By now most players are doing this so prices will drop and gold is like breathing air in UO so I guess a 100 mil for a set is considered under price? lol There are others things to do in UO than just trick or treating.
I just don't understand the harsh stance on the issue in the first place. I mean the pixel addiction is truly at it's finest in UO. Instead of worrying about others getting or doing it a certain way that a person doesn't like. Just play the game as you want to and don't be hating on others if they have tons of pixel junk or not. I guess players always find a way to complain about anything still. Negativity at its best
Cause they are Ferengi and giving things away for free is against the Rules of Acquisition.
I completely agree with you.
No offense to the person that said that, but I can't take the word of someone saying "I'm told it is legal because such and such emailed me." That and I've searched the forum for posts made by Mesanna, last one was September 9th. Can someone post a link to something saying from an official dev that it is legal? Not saying it isn't there, would just like to see it for myself.
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By your own standard, we can't take the word of someone who claims Mesanna replied by e-mail that it's not allowed.
There you go: you admitted you invited opinions against. At least you're no longer complaining about being "trolled" or "bashed."
When something's been expressly permitted, it's pointless to discuss "why it shouldn't be allowed." You might as well start a thread about allowing small houses on tower roofs like they once were.
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By my own standard? You're obviously angry that I'm making valid points, and you're doing nothing but bashing...
I admitted I invited opinions against? What the hell does this even mean? Why are you trolling this thread and why hasn't the Forum Admin done anything about this? This is ridiculous that someone should even be allowed to post like this.
You're not contributing to the topic, all you're doing is posting responses to bash me.
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sibble... Let us moderate the forums please. You have made your point. We decide who gets to have an account here and post what they think and believe. I see you seem to have issues with the game. That is OK... This is a discussion forum. We discuss stuff here. Calling for a ban on anyone that disagrees with you... well that is not discussion.
Yea, I have issues with the game and Zog has issues with me, which is pretty much all over this thread. Calling for a ban from someone that disagrees with me? There are plenty of people that have disagreed with me in this thread, some that I've even agreed to their points.
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I have issues too. I have addressed many of those issues I have with the game on these very forums. Stratics is pretty cool like that. When you turn issues into a vendetta... Well, then we have to step in. We discuss here. We do not dictate.
Messana stated in game that this was legal. I specifically asked her if it was legal. She did say you must be there attended and not using any illegal third party program. I can say the OP who posted it was correct.
No offense, but we have conflicting people here each saying Mesanna told them something different. Not calling anyone a liar, but at this point, I don't see how anyone could be trusted...until something from someone official is posted.
Ok, i get why there are two sides to this one. I DONT get why its gone back and forth for 2 pages. Theres tons of crap in uo like this and it doesnt matter if its 2 pages, or (like the OP originally stated) simply the title of the thread.
This is why:
http://stratics.com/community/threads/mesanna-the-dev-team.302073/#post-2289931
all this stuff is part of the game, its up to the devs to fix it. we know by now It takes ALOT (like mythic tokens being 5k in luna) for them to actually step in right off the bat.
This is why:
http://stratics.com/community/threads/mesanna-the-dev-team.302073/#post-2289931
all this stuff is part of the game, its up to the devs to fix it. we know by now It takes ALOT (like mythic tokens being 5k in luna) for them to actually step in right off the bat.
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OMG THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE. WOW you call something an exploit and admit to using it, shakes head. Shame on you. This is the REAL REASON he/she wants it stopped is because someone found a way with the CC that is FASTER than the EC. OMG stop the presses. Todays headline reads "The CC/UOA is faster than the EC while Trick or Treating" Devs shut down UO and fix this ASAP, we can't have the CC/UOA out performing the EC. The sky is falling, this will destroy UO as we know it people, LOL.
damn right I'm going to do it if everyone else is wow big news... yoooouuu your good! so smart good catch! ya that's what this thread is about, ec being faster than cc, brilliant! again, another child trying to troll.
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Actually, he's just sick of seeing so many people doing it unattended, that is all.