Do you really think people forgot the Sphinxs have been on vendors for 175m over and over for the past week?
This statement, is why people need to be careful buying these.
whatever
I think there is A LOT of items it does not work for besides event items.
Untill the Devs get tough..and i mean tough and delete all dupes and dont bother to listen to people moaning....then the rares commuinty WILL keep supporting the dupers duping there dupes in mass numbers and turning a blind eye to the fact they are buying dupes get something they want.
one cannot survive without the other!! [END OF]
Promathia has played a great role in this Rares Community and all he is doing is simply looking out for the rest of us. Of course there are duped items but not everyone is aware of it, especially within the past couple of weeks where ALOT have shown up from "IDOCS" and what not. So yes he can post on a thread concerning a sphinx, and yes he can make everyone aware of the current boom of these items. It isn't considered trolling, it is simply an action to make this community aware of what's going on. And if it does effect the sale of someone's 500m sphinx then so be it. I personally would rather see a duped item sell for less rather than see someone in our community get screwed out of their hard earned gold.
THP- I am ALL FOR the deletion of ALL duped items, and I would not quit or cry about it. But people would quit and cry about it... impacting Origin's bottom line. What % of the people/accounts can they afford to lose with out shutting the whole thing down? Who wants to roll those dice on a % since its not predictable? We potentially lose a game, they definitely lose jobs from the revenue loss. A 1 or 2 day roll back on ATL makes people crazy enough...Untill the Devs get tough.. [END OF]
How can you prove his isn't a real one? I mean the person making them had to have access to a real one at some point I would assume... Just another reason this discussion is pretty much pointless. Its a problem but there is not a solution.
The point isn't if this [one] specific item is real or not.
I know, how could it be proven for ANY Rare or EM Item? There are real ones and duped ones and no one can tell the difference...
Considering there was only 1 "Sphinx" Statue, it is very easy to tell which one are dupes.
No one better dupe my vegetables!I am ok with this thread poping up every once in awhile. There are plenty of new traders coming into our community
Instead of a thread like this turning into a he said she said personal attack feeding frenzy.
I would prefer a more structured system that says "Alert" do to the sudden increase of these items it might have been duped or a notice of a total verification.
There are plenty of duped items still pulling gold and really its just because we knowingly choose to pay the prices.
There are a couple of deco items I like to have to tag my property with that run a couple hundred mil I know they have been duped. It's my choice to pay what I feel is reasonable. I don't however pay stupid money for them at the current market prices.
If they all got deleted after years of my ownership do to them being duped. I would say fine, I enjoyed them while they were around. The one or two though that didn't delete out of the dozens I had, Now those are going to be worth a pretty penny
The warning came hours too late for me and others.
All gossip imo. Maybe even just someone trying to lower the price with rumors, it's worked before.
Please enlighten me on how to tell the diff? Other than someone selling more than 1... And also the Devils SUCK!
I think he means he knows where the original one is so the rest must be dupes.Please enlighten me on how to tell the diff? Other than someone selling more than 1... And also the Devils SUCK!
Good question! I remember back in the hayday of duping (2008? again going on rumor because I had no clue how to dupe myself) people were shuttering their museums for fear someone would come in and dupe everything... others were convinced that you would need to actually own the item first....
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No idea but they have sold for 400m to 1.8billion, some as recently as the last couple of days toward the lower end of my figure (400-500+ range). I thought 400 was a good deal based on deals closed right here on Stratics. (I just googled site:stratics.com sphinx and until this thread popped up yesterday, 400+ seemed like the going rate, now everyone's talking less... not sure why, what changed in the last couple days?)
A few days ago (I want to say Wed. range) someone posted here on Stratics they had 5 Sphinx Statues to auction off, along with another em item that they had like 3 of or so. In that thread a few folks were already crying foul. Then a few hours later another thread came up on a shard traders board about someone else having 2 of them for sale. Then to top it off someone on Atlantic was spamming in gen chat about have 2 for sale (that could have been one of the two folks already selling them)...... Once the crowd pushed the person saying they had 5 for sale they first changed their story and said 5 was a typo that they only had 1. Shortly after that I think the thread got deleted. But, the cat was already confirmed out of the bag at that point and prices started plummeting.
1) I don't think we can trust that whoever this mysterious person was actually had them for sale. It's also very possible this was just one person or person(s) trying to sell the same statuette(s) using various venues rather than an actual abundance of the item.
The sales speak for themselves.
Well, that's probably pretty close to the truth with very few exceptions!Assume everything is duped and let all your worries melt away.
See you all somewhere else.
I agree with you there.2) I have not seen any offers posted on here at these supposed plummeting prices.
Value of item is still as posted. It's worth whatever someone is willing to pay.
However, I do agree that posting about it and reminding the community from time to time about the history of our great 16 years of gaming community profession is only a good thing. I am just amazed that we have 16 years of history already!!!!!!!
Weee, I personally only own 1 "unique" item, and it's not even a good one.. but there is only 1!! Should I ever part with it, it will become Manti's due to him being a great friend and helped me a a lot in rares collecting.There are very few true unique items left in this game. I would say no more than 300 (compared to potentially thousands of possible rare items out there its really a small %). A majority of them were created back in the Seer days and Mesanna special events. A few were introduced during EM events throughout the seasons, accidental grabs, and other illegal means that GMs in today's world have forgotten their legality or its not on their "radar" of things to do. Of those 300 or so items, majority of them are owned by a few collectors and they horde them with absolute discrimination. Trying to pry one of those out of their hands is nearly impossible. To these collectors, they assumed everything else 1 of 2s, or more have the potentially of being duped because that side of the world duping has been and still is ongoing and totally uncontrollable but they still continue to collect because they are for the lack of a better word "pretty". At the end, isn't that what we collectors do? Collect?
