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[Discussion] People dont buy much lately

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xCatax

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Also dont offer much . I was surprised in my last auction so few ppl biding , selling greater artifacts jewell for 10m etc .
Is this market over ?
 

Kage

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Maybe people are finally realizing that some items just aren't that good.... Or maybe it's what he said ^ *shrugs*
 

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Maybe people are finally realizing that some items just aren't that good.... Or maybe it's what he said ^ *shrugs*
U.O. is a dying game not to many people play it anymore, all the good people quit years ago! plus its just as easy to get nice stuff on your own! don't listen to these other people they are most likely kids with no life who care way to much about what people think about them in a dying video game.
 

xCatax

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U.O. is a dying game not to many people play it anymore, all the good people quit years ago! plus its just as easy to get nice stuff on your own! don't listen to these other people they are most likely kids with no life who care way to much about what people think about them in a dying video game.
1st msg and its nothing related to shame loot market , use ur main account
thank you

PD : many visitors lately too
 
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Blue Fly

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As time goes on, and people get what they need, why would they buy more? When artifacts 1st came out they were expensive. As more and more flooded the game prices dropped. Supply and demand...
Also I think everyone has figuered out using a luck suit on energy eles in shame using honor is the way to go. Lots of SSI rings and bracelets to go around now and prices will only drop (with the exception of a few rare combinations or over modded)
 

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As time goes on, and people get what they need, why would they buy more? When artifacts 1st came out they were expensive. As more and more flooded the game prices dropped. Supply and demand...
Also I think everyone has figuered out using a luck suit on energy eles in shame using honor is the way to go. Lots of SSI rings and bracelets to go around now and prices will only drop (with the exception of a few rare combinations or over modded)

Or perhaps Lightning strike spamming the Mud Elementals at the "Camp" while using honor & doing it 24/7 is the way to get stuff???
 

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perfect pieces will always catch attention, but i think the effort vrs the reward just isnt adding up right now to promote selling, or buying.
reluctant to sell becuase the time / rareity of an item is worth more than most are willing to pay.
ruluctant to buy because the benefit of an item isnt worth close to what someone is selling it for.

i know the vast majority of my loot sits in a box because the value of having nice items as "backup" for future needs outweighs the actual gold worth of an item.
i dont buy much here because its either easier to find what i need on a vendor, already have it, or for what i dont have and would like, not worth the slight benefit an item would give me compared to how much gold is asked for an item.
 

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Cata I do not purchase from you because I think you're a douchebag tbh. You have posted some things that I wanted but refuse to buy from you. I think its a mix of that and that you price things at ridicules prices. You put a value of what you think an item is worth and its just laughable. Supply, demand, the market and its buyers are the ones that determine the value on an item. Not u..
 

xCatax

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The number of people that sends me private offers has rised alot .
Why dont you want others know the gold u offering ?
You let my threads without bids and that make a feeling of cheap item to others . This doesnt happen in uo rares collector , guilds are there running bussiness .
Idea ¡ Maybe i should join one of thouse guilds so my threads wil have some fake bids ....
Well no , im not that guy :)
 

xCatax

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Cata I do not purchase from you because I think you're a douchebag tbh. You have posted some things that I wanted but refuse to buy from you. I think its a mix of that and that you price things at ridicules prices. You put a value of what you think an item is worth and its just laughable. Supply, demand, the market and its buyers are the ones that determine the value on an item. Not u..
You have no word , you admited made fake bids to rise prices . what other things u did we dont know ?

PD We knew u working in some new dupes , mythic tokens ? Honestly i dont know how u still here
 

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You have no word , you admited made fake bids to rise prices . what other things u did we dont know ?

PD We knew u working in some new dupes , mythic tokens ? Honestly i dont know how u still here
What are you talking about I admitted about making fake bids? You really are ******** arent you? I CLEARLY stated IN THAT THREAD that Varrius is making fake bids trying to raise prices. Now I'm duping too because I have alot more wealth than you do? AND YES the same day that I came back from 2 weeks on vacation I bought 400 mythic tokens at 40m per. Then I quickly resold them at 45m per AFTER I SAW WHAT HAPPENED and didn't buy more EVEN THOUGH I can get more at 2m per lol.

Your worship has been noted. Why is it that people can page on you unattended in shame all day and you never get banned btw?
 

xCatax

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Returning to the thread title my conclusion is people will left making auctions and will keep the items waiting for someone ask directly for it .
 

xCatax

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What are you talking about I admitted about making fake bids? You really are ******** arent you? I CLEARLY stated IN THAT THREAD that Varrius is making fake bids trying to raise prices. Now I'm duping too because I have alot more wealth than you do? AND YES the same day that I came back from 2 weeks on vacation I bought 400 mythic tokens at 40m per. Then I quickly resold them at 45m per AFTER I SAW WHAT HAPPENED and didn't buy more EVEN THOUGH I can get more at 2m per lol.

Your worship has been noted. Why is it that people can page on you unattended in shame all day and you never get banned btw?
No , you had the highest bid and retired the bid and you admited rising the price , Kiddo thread about ssi 10 si5 ep10 bracelet .
 

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All I can say is that the Trade Forum got screwed up with all the shenanigance between you guys, Kiddo's thread got screwed for sure by all the fake bids ( you can call it joke bids all you want)

I do not even bother selling and buy very little now because of all the bs you guys stir up on every other thread.

people should be allowed to price their own items without hassles from others. If you don't like the price then find the item somewhere else, it is that simple.
 

xCatax

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I was quite thinking moderators were goona make something against ppl trolling my threads but it never happened so im taking actions .
 

Smoot

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I was quite thinking moderators were goona make something against ppl trolling my threads but it never happened so im taking actions .
cata you trolled the hell out of my thread yesterday. same old paranoid accusations when i was trying to buy something for a reasonable price.
to earn respect try practicing it for a while.
 

xCatax

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cata you trolled the hell out of my thread yesterday. same old paranoid accusations when i was trying to buy something for a reasonable price.
to earn respect try practicing it for a while.
Its not the same , in my case i have to loot the item and then setup a price . You setup prices without cost , its ridiculous low you paying for a armor part that bealive me i still havent loot .
Scroll back , im taking actions since moderators dont .
 

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Its not the same , in my case i have to loot the item and then setup a price . You setup prices without cost , its ridiculous low you paying for a armor part that bealive me i still havent loot .
Scroll back , im taking actions since moderators dont .

I'm sorry but.. Cata did you forget how to speak english lately?? I never noticed it before so perhaps that's on me, but your last several posts are suggesting ESL (English 2nd language) to me... That's totally fine btw I just hadn't noticed it before.
 

Blue Fly

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All I can say is that the Trade Forum got screwed up with all the shenanigance between you guys, Kiddo's thread got screwed for sure by all the fake bids ( you can call it joke bids all you want)

I do not even bother selling and buy very little now because of all the bs you guys stir up on every other thread.

people should be allowed to price their own items without hassles from others. If you don't like the price then find the item somewhere else, it is that simple.
Of course people can sell things for whatever they want! I also have an Orny for sale for only 500m! Please no posting on this thread caling me a nutt and stating my price a rippoff, just doin a little fishing! :stretcher:
 

xCatax

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I'm sorry but.. Cata did you forget how to speak english lately?? I never noticed it before so perhaps that's on me, but your last several posts are suggesting ESL (English 2nd language) to me... That's totally fine btw I just hadn't noticed it before.
Si te apetece podiamos hablar en mi idioma :)
 

xCatax

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Of course people can sell things for whatever they want! I also have an Orny for sale for only 500m! Please no posting on this thread caling me a nutt and stating my price a rippoff, just doin a little fishing! :stretcher:
You doing now is trolling
 

Blue Fly

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You doing now is trolling
Hmmm, wasn't dirrected at you. Was just making light of the situation. Sound like you lost touch with your inner stillness... Try not to get too shook up...
 
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Varrius

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What are you talking about I admitted about making fake bids? You really are ******** arent you? I CLEARLY stated IN THAT THREAD that Varrius is making fake bids trying to raise prices. Now I'm duping too because I have alot more wealth than you do? AND YES the same day that I came back from 2 weeks on vacation I bought 400 mythic tokens at 40m per. Then I quickly resold them at 45m per AFTER I SAW WHAT HAPPENED and didn't buy more EVEN THOUGH I can get more at 2m per lol.

Your worship has been noted. Why is it that people can page on you unattended in shame all day and you never get banned btw?
I made fake bids in that thread but yet I ended up with the bracelet? That makes sense. How are you denying that your bids were fake when you won the original auction and backed out?

Get a life.
 

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I am a fan of being a bit lenient and letting freedom of speech prevail. We try and clean up threads when we see them or are notified about them. If it is thought that we are letting too much "trolling" happen then honestly this thread itself boarders on being a troll.
 

funkymonkey

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have you noticed that he points out what other people do , but when people do it to him he ignores it, like the client he uses, then bangs on about trolls.
FSW.
 

Alexander of ATL.

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Si te apetece podiamos hablar en mi idioma :)
Yo puedo hablar en su idioma xcatax, ¿por qué siempre se siente la necesidad de desfigurar todo el mundo hilo vigilara pero odias cuando te pasa a ti? ¿Por qué siempre lowball todos los demás pero odias cuando te pasa a ti? ¿Por qué odias a la gente ser grosero con usted, pero usted es el mismo para todos los demás?

hmmm ..... Creo que este hilo no sirve para nada.
 

Smoot

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Its not the same , in my case i have to loot the item and then setup a price . You setup prices without cost , its ridiculous low you paying for a armor part that bealive me i still havent loot .
Scroll back , im taking actions since moderators dont .
So in your opinion, how much should a platemail tunic with 8stam 8mana 8lmc and three high resists be worth to me? rarity aside, because as you know weapons and armor selling is alot more complex when it comes to price than somethings rarity.
 

xCatax

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Hmmm, wasn't dirrected at you. Was just making light of the situation. Sound like you lost touch with your inner stillness... Try not to get too shook up...
Id like better , arguments
My way of setting prices is looking the past " normal " sales taking as priority items that i sold so if i sold SSI5 SI5 jewelry for tops 600m dont expect me selling them for 125m becasue id like better keeping it .
I have some good armor parts and jewells for sale dont expect me making an auction starting bid 10m again , i have seen reselling the item in the same thread of the seller :( .
 

xCatax

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So in your opinion, how much should a platemail tunic with 8stam 8mana 8lmc and three high resists be worth to me? rarity aside, because as you know weapons and armor selling is alot more complex when it comes to price than somethings rarity.
8 stam one name 110 points
8 mana and 8lmc 2nd name 220 points
3 resist around 20 3rd name +300 points

We have 630 points not counting the other mods because these artifacts doesnt come as perfect to only have 6 mods .

This piece cant be obtained trough reforge it must be Greater - Major artifact to legendary
I told you id happy pay 2x u said and others maybe more
 

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Yo puedo hablar en su idioma xcatax, ¿por qué siempre se siente la necesidad de desfigurar todo el mundo hilo vigilara pero odias cuando te pasa a ti? ¿Por qué siempre lowball todos los demás pero odias cuando te pasa a ti? ¿Por qué odias a la gente ser grosero con usted, pero usted es el mismo para todos los demás?

hmmm ..... Creo que este hilo no sirve para nada.
 

xCatax

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Yo puedo hablar en su idioma xcatax, ¿por qué siempre se siente la necesidad de desfigurar todo el mundo hilo vigilara pero odias cuando te pasa a ti? ¿Por qué siempre lowball todos los demás pero odias cuando te pasa a ti? ¿Por qué odias a la gente ser grosero con usted, pero usted es el mismo para todos los demás?

hmmm ..... Creo que este hilo no sirve para nada.
Yo no albergo odio y estoy acostumbrado a la gente que intenta cambiar el hilo .
Yo no albergo odio y mis ofertas son correctas aqui en el foro o en el juego , suelo mandar un 20% menos cuando compro porque se que despues de regatear subira algo pero no trabajo con un 200 y 300% como vosotros .
Nunca soy grosero es mas mi lenguaje es siempre correcto y adecuado a la situacion .

Tu estas solo alli delante de tu ordenador si tu ves odio en mi es porque tu lo sientes y debes trabajar en ello ;)
 

xCatax

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That jewel was just in Luna the othernight for 138m and it didnt sell until it was dropped to 100!
Do i have to repeat this again , well yes lets go

I have sold this kind of jewell from soulweaver 600m to Santa clause 300m also you offered me 300m arguing you bought to Mr plod for 250m while Mr plod told me you paid him 450m . I dont know if theres a jewell in a vendor for 100m in this case i keep my jewell and wait for better days .
 
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Smoot

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8 stam one name 110 points
8 mana and 8lmc 2nd name 220 points
3 resist around 20 3rd name +300 points

We have 630 points not counting the other mods because these artifacts doesnt come as perfect to only have 6 mods .

This piece cant be obtained trough reforge it must be Greater - Major artifact to legendary
I told you id happy pay 2x u said and others maybe more
there was something like this on a luna vendor the other day for 175mil. i didnt buy it because it went above my needs (good mage mods, it was a tank mage peice) i dont see your logic in me wanting to pay less than gold for less stats. this isnt just a one time thing either just an example.

i understand you wanting to keep the armor rather than sell it, thats what i do mostly because i dont want to "advertise" and spam to get top dollar. what i do sell, i have no foreseeable need for, and sell for a fair price. (as you could see in my post about a sampire piece, i have many pieces to trade, some of which you might put a much higher gold value on than myself)
 

Maxx Payne

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I am a fan of being a bit lenient and letting freedom of speech prevail. We try and clean up threads when we see them or are notified about them. If it is thought that we are letting too much "trolling" happen then honestly this thread itself boarders on being a troll.
I'v been back playing this game for about 2 months after quitting for 2 maybe 3 years. This is my first time i'v made an account for this site. Really i made it to see if i could find anything worth buying. first post i read had negative reply's and that this the type of thing that is killing the game. And it seems to me that being on here is kind of like middle school with the hazing! And the "UO Monerator's" like to play who will be my teachers pet.. The funny thing about it i have been told by plenty of people that is exactly what you guys do here! I guess the good times are truly over with and now and its more who you know and not what you know.. So yea pick your favorite's act like kids and don't do your job and keep killing the game and this website...they acted his post so yes you two are not "trolling" peace out girl scout
 

Smoot

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Do i have to repeat this again , well yes lets go

I have sold this kind of jewell from soulweaver 600m to Santa clause 300m also you offered me 300m arguing you bought to Mr plod for 250m while Mr plod told me you paid him 450m . I dont know if theres a jewell in a vendor for 100m in this case i keep my jewell and wait for better days .
well, i guess thats the answer to your original question / thread topic. its pretty easy to find items in game / on luna vendors now in the 20 - 125mil range that used to sell for 500mil, and thats why less people are selling / buying on the trade forum. I just sold an identical bracer to that ring for 165mil here because i rather avoid the vendor fees.
 

xCatax

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there was something like this on a luna vendor the other day for 175mil. i didnt buy it because it went above my needs (good mage mods, it was a tank mage peice) i dont see your logic in me wanting to pay less than gold for less stats. this isnt just a one time thing either just an example.

i understand you wanting to keep the armor rather than sell it, thats what i do mostly because i dont want to "advertise" and spam to get top dollar. what i do sell, i have no foreseeable need for, and sell for a fair price. (as you could see in my post about a sampire piece, i have many pieces to trade, some of which you might put a much higher gold value on than myself)
Mage piece not SAMPIRE PIECE
You dont see logical a buyer tries to pay less ?
Thanks god you understand i keep the items if the price is too low .
When i have something to sell i post a new thread here :) , post ur pics so we can see u offering .
 
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xCatax

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well, i guess thats the answer to your original question / thread topic. its pretty easy to find items in game / on luna vendors now in the 20 - 125mil range that used to sell for 500mil, and thats why less people are selling / buying on the trade forum. I just sold an identical bracer to that ring for 165mil here because i rather avoid the vendor fees.
He did buyout very quick because it was with dci and is more valuable you sold cheap imo .



Its not pretty easy you cannot find this in that price range . You post a pic like u were hunting and looted thouse 2 in same day and theres a thing that disagrees....
You cannot be hunting these jewells and at same time saying are easy to find or you are trolling urself .
 

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I'v been back playing this game for about 2 months after quitting for 2 maybe 3 years. This is my first time i'v made an account for this site. Really i made it to see if i could find anything worth buying. first post i read had negative reply's and that this the type of thing that is killing the game. And it seems to me that being on here is kind of like middle school with the hazing! And the "UO Monerator's" like to play who will be my teachers pet.. The funny thing about it i have been told by plenty of people that is exactly what you guys do here! I guess the good times are truly over with and now and its more who you know and not what you know.. So yea pick your favorite's act like kids and don't do your job and keep killing the game and this website...they acted his post so yes you two are not "trolling" peace out girl scout
Would you mind sharing your opinion on who is being favored? This isn't the first time the accusation has been made and I am curious to know who is getting the preferential treatment. I've removed posts from both sides of the recent arguments and I am not actually friends with anyone in this thread or the past "hot" threads.

As always if you think something inappropriate is happening please PM Petra or Tazar or Syrus or whoever you fancy.
 

Smoot

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Mage piece not SAMPIRE PIECE
You dont see logical a buyer tries to pay less ?
Thanks god you understand i keep the items if the price is too low .
When i have something to sell i post a new thread here :) , post ur pics so we can see u offering .
-Tank- mage piece, meaning it had the exact stats i was looking for, but also had lrc and mana regen, which i didnt want to pay extra for.
 

Smoot

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He did buyout very quick because it was with dci and is more valuable you sold cheap imo .



Its not pretty easy you cannot find this in that price range . You post a pic like u were hunting and looted thouse 2 in same day and theres a thing that disagrees....
You cannot be hunting these jewells and at same time saying are easy to find or you are trolling urself .
I sold for 165 because they sell on luna vendor regularly for that price (or less, which is why i was very happy with 165)
I actually sold what i was trying to sell, that my style rather than trying to sell for months.

I did not loot these in the same day, i take screenshots when im hunting becuase its boring.
 

xCatax

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-Tank- mage piece, meaning it had the exact stats i was looking for, but also had lrc and mana regen, which i didnt want to pay extra for.
It had mana regen lrc stam8 lmc8 mana8 and 3 high resist ? man this is a Major artifact , 175m ..... i cant bealive you .
 

Smoot

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It had mana regen lrc stam8 lmc8 mana8 and 3 high resist ? man this is a Major artifact , 175m ..... i cant bealive you .
yep, i would have bought it but i already have the same thing, minus the stam but with casting focus instead. so didnt really need. stuff like that does pop up in luna, it sells within a couple days, but its there all the same.

i look at it as, i farm when im drinking coffee or downloading stuff, and if i happen to get something great. but its not really worth the time any more when i think about the number of hours spent farming compared to what i actually get and how much demand there is. and personally, if im spending a billion gold, im buying a rare i really want not just a piece of armor with 10more mana or something.

but thats just me. there are of course still a few that pay extreme amounts to make a corvette of a suit quickly.
 

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supply demand, oh and no one likes catax so they don't bother here. you get pms more then thread postings now because sometimes you have an item someone wants and the buyer is too embarrassed to acknowledge to everyone else that they are buying it from you.
 

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Yo no albergo odio y estoy acostumbrado a la gente que intenta cambiar el hilo .
Yo no albergo odio y mis ofertas son correctas aqui en el foro o en el juego , suelo mandar un 20% menos cuando compro porque se que despues de regatear subira algo pero no trabajo con un 200 y 300% como vosotros .
Nunca soy grosero es mas mi lenguaje es siempre correcto y adecuado a la situacion .

Tu estas solo alli delante de tu ordenador si tu ves odio en mi es porque tu lo sientes y debes trabajar en ello ;)
Hey, I judge by what I see, not hear. I've heard of you and your attitude towards people but I never really believed them. Since I am new to using the Trade forum, I had a simple question and I do see you post there a lot. So I asked the question in your thread and wasn't rude at all.

A different guy answered my question in the thread, but had a smart ass tone to it, but I ignored it while waiting on your response. You did nothing but thanked the smart-ass and ignored my question. After that, I knew what you really are about.

Even though my place is mostly rares, I have been trying to grasp the meaning of armor and weapons. You may no more about them than myself, but I'm sure I know more about other things than you. That being said, I figured you would be adult enough and actually act your age and at LEAST show the slight bit of respect myself or another person deserves. But no.... after that thread I decided to do a little bit of research of your character and get to 'know' you better. In EVERY thread I look at, there is negativity, from both parties yes, but you share the most fault in my honest opinion. Like I said, I don't judge by what I hear, I judge by what I see.

In this thread alone, you are at the most fault. You troll everyone elses thread but cry when it is done to you. You lowball everyone else but you complain when it happens to you. You claim to be doing the moderators job when in reality, the person that should be getting the warning is you. I see no reason for this thread, nor all your other threads. You advertise selling/buying goods but what most people see is a guy behind a computer screen being a **** to everyone..

That sir... is why you do not sell anything anymore.
 
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