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I was wondering, how come a person can use Discordance on another blue players blue pet and go crim?

HP_Zoro_HP

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How can a BLUE person in fel use Discordance on another BLUE players BLUE pet and the one that discorded not turn gray or criminal for doing so? It weakens the players pet and so i'm not sure why they are aloud to do this and not flag? Another note... Why can this not be dispelled (besides running 100 yards off screen)?
 

Goldberg-Chessy

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Same reason a blue player can field or wall another blue player or pet in and not go gray or criminal.

And this is a much more frequent and serious issue. Lets fix this first then worry about a few pet stats.
 

Vexxed

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How can a BLUE person in fel use Discordance on another BLUE players BLUE pet and the one that discorded not turn gray or criminal for doing so? It weakens the players pet and so i'm not sure why they are aloud to do this and not flag? Another note... Why can this not be dispelled (besides running 100 yards off screen)?
Well your not going to like my answers but....

1) Stop playing a tamer in PvP... It doesnt stand for pet vs player....

2) If your going to play a PvP tamer at least go red and simply avoid the GZ and kill who you want.....
 

Goldberg-Chessy

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And take counts for it LMAO that is the problem it is an offensive move that doesn't tag as one nice reply!" next comment ommited for offensiveness"
Hrmmm, blue tamers with 1000 hp pets hanging in guard zone waiting to gank are upset that their pets can be discoed? That's funny stuff.

Maybe when those same pets stop casting high level spells from 200 screens away we can address the disco issue?
 

Voodoo Bad Mojo

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How can a BLUE person in fel use Discordance on another BLUE players BLUE pet and the one that discorded not turn gray or criminal for doing so? It weakens the players pet and so i'm not sure why they are aloud to do this and not flag? Another note... Why can this not be dispelled (besides running 100 yards off screen)?
you can area peace and say blue too.
thats just as evasive as discoing.
 

virtualhabitat

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you can area peace and say blue too.
thats just as evasive as discoing.
Now there is a pain in the arse. Area peacers in trammel running about disrupting my provoker or my tamer. It's a true griefing tactic used to murder provokers and prevent tamers from getting looting rights. Discord? not so much.
 

virtualhabitat

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Also, I think it's unfair that I can't call "Guards!" as a ghost. Guards could have Spirit Speak right? Then all you nasty fel types would get what's yours.
 

HP_Zoro_HP

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so can anyone actually tell me why its like this? (The disco and not flagging thing)... Walling a player in is not affecting stats... Discoing is as bad as a CURSE and when you CURSE someone do you not flag Crim? Yeah you do... So why doesnt Discoing a blue pet flag the bard?
 

Vexxed

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so can anyone actually tell me why its like this? (The disco and not flagging thing)... Walling a player in is not affecting stats... Discoing is as bad as a CURSE and when you CURSE someone do you not flag Crim? Yeah you do... So why doesnt Discoing a blue pet flag the bard?
We all play the game and we all understand what Disco does to a pet. Sure its an aggressive action and its inconsistent that it doesnt flag people. Its just that no one really cares about the tamers its hapening too. Call it a balancing factor for trying to PvP with a pet. All kill no skill pets that drop spells out of range blah blah blah........
 
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Goldberg-Chessy

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so can anyone actually tell me why its like this? (The disco and not flagging thing)... Walling a player in is not affecting stats... Discoing is as bad as a CURSE and when you CURSE someone do you not flag Crim? Yeah you do... So why doesnt Discoing a blue pet flag the bard?
Walling a player in so that he gets killed does a bit more then affect stats. Wtf are you talking about?

Last month you dusted off a Thief and wanted ridiculous buffs to the Thief template(guaranteed random stealing if I remember correctly?)
This month you obviously started playing a Tamer and now we need Taming buffs?

Maybe seeing a pattern here?
 

Quickblade

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Walling a player in so that he gets killed does a bit more then affect stats. Wtf are you talking about?

Last month you dusted off a Thief and wanted ridiculous buffs to the Thief template(guaranteed random stealing if I remember correctly?)
This month you obviously started playing a Tamer and now we need Taming buffs?

Maybe seeing a pattern here?

There are several things to not be walled,, sorry. Trap boxes for warriors before you actually get walled, teleport for Mages, wall is part of a strategy to kill but its also easy to turn around. Discording and peacing a blue pet in fel should absolutly turns the bard grey, theres no reason to not do so. I mean OK you will say a GD is 1000hp blah blah blah, but it still get killed in few AIS or hailstorm and a dragon slayer. So why it should get killed even faster because a blue bard guards sticking and multi clienting probly, is just there to make the dragon go down twice faster.
 

Logrus

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Switch Pets.
Disco lowers by a %, so taking a couple of weaker pets with similar abilities( like a pair of nightmares) and you won't be as bothered by discord.

Add provo to the tamer buff their stats and damage with the mastery.

Kill the bard.
 

CovenantX

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IMO Discording another players (Blue) pet should flag the bard as a criminal.

Provoke does it, even if you don't provoke anything- just making a tamers blue pet the first target of a provoke flags you criminal, even though you cannot provoke a players pet, you can only provoke onto a players pet.

Area peacing doesn't flag criminal either, but I'm not so sure if directly peacing a players blue pet does or not I don't have peacing.
 

Goldberg-Chessy

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There are several things to not be walled,, sorry. Trap boxes for warriors before you actually get walled, teleport for Mages, wall is part of a strategy to kill but its also easy to turn around. Discording and peacing a blue pet in fel should absolutly turns the bard grey, theres no reason to not do so. I mean OK you will say a GD is 1000hp blah blah blah, but it still get killed in few AIS or hailstorm and a dragon slayer. So why it should get killed even faster because a blue bard guards sticking and multi clienting probly, is just there to make the dragon go down twice faster.
There are also things to do to negate Disco. Whats your point?

Having a counter or workaround does not always make it right.

And as far as walls go you really do sound clueless. Take your hand off the keyboard for 3 seconds to take a sip of coffee and you can be wall/fielded by blues while on a blue. Spare me your box nonsense. I am not saying that walls are a gigantic issue. I am simply saying that they are without question much more serious then a freakin discoed pet.
 

Goldberg-Chessy

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I was wondering why the OP all of a sudden has disco issues and wants a taming buff but then I noticed his post on the Traders board where he is offering 2 billion gold for a nice dread war horse.

Go figure...
 

Goldberg-Chessy

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I hear you but I really am not against pvp tamers. I like the challenge of basically fighting 1 vs 2 and am always just happy to have anyone at the gate to fight that is not running with 5 other people looking to do nothing other then dismount and gank.

I just have issue with anyone who obviously only asks for buffs because it happens to be their template of the month and damn the consequences
 
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