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What type of duped items won't go on vendors anymore on TC1?

kRUXCg7

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There you go Dev to the rescue!
Now I would not doubt it is to find if duped tokens are out there.... Far too many were poping up over the shards and I do mean tons.
I feel incredibly stupid now, having bought quite a number of tokens lately at Origin Store (when we got that 50% discount).
 

Lord Frodo

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I feel incredibly stupid now, having bought quite a number of tokens lately at Origin Store (when we got that 50% discount).
I wish the US would have gotten that deal because I would have given UO/EA my money, but because they did not my money stayed in my wallet. I do not buy duped items from other sites no matter how good they make it.
 

Oops

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Thank you Bleak, I'll message.

Please note the attention to detail in reference to the tokens rather than the HoM. Capitalism is a beautiful thing ;)
 

Winker

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I wish the US would have gotten that deal because I would have given UO/EA my money, but because they did not my money stayed in my wallet. I do not buy duped items from other sites no matter how good they make it.
I was lucky, I live in England and got 10 transfer tokens for the price of 5. They are not for resale I will use them, cheep at half the price ;)
 

Theo_GL

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BODs are like a foreign language that i want no part of in learning....

Thank god for vendors selling runics...


I find it hilarious that some of the same people that complain about the overcomplexity of making armor, are the same people that have a doctorate in BODs. All i know about them is i can fill one, and give it to an npc and he might give me some reward... Same as making a base suit without anything special if you ask me.
Why do you think this is? Because the two go hand in hand. You need to do bods to get runics to craft.

Its not like we like the complexity of the bod system either. From Day 1 I've always thought 10/15/20 QTY's were annoying. Make them all be 15 and we'd have 1/3 as many bods to match/chase down. The whole social aspect of trading bods is gone with bribing so just remove the complexity already. I haven't traded bods with anyone in years yet I still have mountains of 10/15/20 bods to match up.

 

Lady Storm

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Bleak or any other dev looking in ... Drop the bloody bod books to the same as the pink books. Those pink books are perfect and if you did the same for bods the storage and vender crap would abate. 1 book =1 item count would make bods that much more simpler.. then we can sit down and talk the rewards.. in a few words: some suck.
 

Theo_GL

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Bleak or any other dev looking in ... Drop the bloody bod books to the same as the pink books. Those pink books are perfect and if you did the same for bods the storage and vender crap would abate. 1 book =1 item count would make bods that much more simpler.. then we can sit down and talk the rewards.. in a few words: some suck.
I am pretty tired of pulling bod books on/off vendors and sorting. Never understood why scroll of trans books allow 500 items for 1 lockdown yet our books are 5 bods per lockdown. I could eliminate all my vendors (45 of them) if we had bod books woriking like pink books.

I'd also kill for :

1 - Price all bods : Set filter in book and then click 'price all' and all bods meeting the filter criteria get same price.
2 - Alphabetic sort : This actually ought to be the default on the book but at least have an option in the filter criteria to sort alphabetically
3 - Dump all : Whatever sort is on the book, click dump all to dump all of them to your pack (until pack fills up) instead of pulling out 1 by 1.
4 - Fill book outside pack : Able to fill the book while locked down in your house instead of needing to be in your backpack.
 

Theo_GL

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...

The chance of a Valorite EX 20 small that actually fits a Valorite Hammer LBOD is 1/2 (weapon/armor) * 1/2 (Exceptional) * 1/3 (20-count) * 1/4 (Plate Armor combinable) * 1/50 (the 2% chance of a Valorite BOD) = 1/2400. This is BEFORE factoring in that smalls are only 92% of BODS. With that, it becomes 1/2600 (ish - actual number is closer to 2608, but trying to keep math simpler). OR... about ONE VAL HAMMER SMALL EVERY 28 MONTHS, per BOD puller, at 3/day EVERY day.

The LBOD chance is 8% (Chance of a large) * 1/2 (W/A)* 1/2 (Ex) * 1/3 (count) *1/3 (chance of an armor LBOD being plate) * 1/50 (metal) = 2/25 * 1/36 * 1/50
The 2 cancels out, reducing the 36 to 18, so Chance = 1 /(25*18*50) = 1/(25*900) = 1/22,500! That is effectively ONE PER 20 YEARS for a single smith!

Even with turning in smalls for new ones, that means going through, on average, 40,000 smalls turned in to get ONE Valorite hammer set, not counting the bonus that was added to get colored BODs. And, that bonus for a 120 Smith would only reduce the number down to about 1/8000 - which is still astronomical, given that it is near-impossible to average as much as 100 BOD turn-ins an hour, once you factor in the time to fill them - and assuming they are all iron (as to be easily fillable)
I just came across this thread that also put some hard numbers to how bods are distributed from Phoenix. Maybe this should be captured/sticked in the Crafting forum.

http://stratics.com/community/threads/anyone-else-notice-this-bribes.261247/#post-2089134
 

Lady Storm

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You would think they would jump at the chance to do a whole lot of good in a few small changes to that BOD BOOK.
For one that 1 lock down and beign able to take ot and put in when locked down on something be it floor or table would make game life so much easer... and get alot fo damn vendors out of my house's across a few shards.
I could hold that 450 count full bod book on my fully decked out tailor/smith and NOT have to strip down to my skivies to do it.
Sorting and emptying a book for use in one push of a button is something we dream of...
Can you imagine the ablity to hold in your bag a good handfull of full bod books? and be able to work them.... with out the juggling act we do now......

When I saw that pink's book it hit me..... the Dev CAN fix this...
What the hell is holding it up!!!
Mesanna we are far beyond the need to control bods.. the few of us that still do them need the changes...
 

THP

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I was lucky, I live in England and got 10 transfer tokens for the price of 5. They are not for resale I will use them, cheep at half the price ;)
*Coughs*....Birds cheep....the tokens are cheap....just saying....[birds also chirp ...b4 some wise crack replies..Lol ]
 
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Assia Penryn

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So far reports from the rares community have not found any "duped" event, seer or server births. We know they are there, but no one has said they found one yet. Can a Dev please confirm whether or not these items were included. If they were not, why were they left out and will you be adding them in? Many collectors would prefer their collections dupe-free or at least be aware of them. Since we can't tell the difference between those that are and those that aren't from appearance, we had high hopes that this would provide a safe identification method. We've also had some reports of non-event items that folks have gotten first hand such as tangles, slithers, etc are unable to go on vendors.

We'd really like to get more info and make sure the system is working as intended.
http://stratics.com/community/threads/so-duped-items-and-vendors.298083/
 

NuSair

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I am not sure you are going too....

From my understanding of how character transfers work is that all the original items are deleted and new ones were created when you got to your new shard. So, if that is true (unless they recently changed the transfer system), then once an item transfers shards, that can't be tracked anyway.

As for the rares collectors wanting a dupe free event... I find that amusing considering that a lot of the older rares are known dupes or gotten through exploits (two story statues, original black dye tubs for example) and are openly traded for/sold.
 

Ron Silverbeard

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Tried realy realy hard and placed alot of items, some that might be very well know to be duped, on my vendor, with no negative result (all would have been possible to sell) So either this isnt working as inteded, OR i am i realy lucky so far, OR ther are just no more dupes out there!
 

DJAd

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Tried realy realy hard and placed alot of items, some that might be very well know to be duped, on my vendor, with no negative result (all would have been possible to sell) So either this isnt working as inteded, OR i am i realy lucky so far, OR ther are just no more dupes out there!
Same here. I tested a good few items on a vendor and was able to place them all for sale with no problem. Real LT Sash, Slither etc.

Is it only when people try to buy them it blocks it, or when the person places them on the vendor?
 
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Acid Rain

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My guess is this is another PR stunt. Nothing has been blocked, everything is the same.
Until I start hearing folks pancakes in game abt how their items wont go on vendors,
I don't believe any of this "we're vendor blocking dupes" crap.
 

Voluptuous

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They even duped swamp tiles? Unbelievable *stares at her one duped tile* Thank god this was something cheap.
 

Oops

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There are endless amounts of people in general chat, help chat and even stratics users reporting that their freshly farmed , never left their hands items are showing up as duped. I

No message from EA...:pancakes:... it doesn't work on EM items someone said? :pancakes:

Why is this live on all of our servers? Your job is to make sure the playerbase has a good experience, this obviously does not do anything to effect anything other than hurt your paying subscribers experience in the game.

I think the effort was good, but this isn't the answer, why wasn't this discussed with more community invovement before made live? Pull this back to test center and let's rehash how to best do this.
 

kelmo

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My guess is this is another PR stunt. Nothing has been blocked, everything is the same.
Until I start hearing folks pancakes in game abt how their items wont go on vendors,
I don't believe any of this "we're vendor blocking dupes" crap.
There are endless amounts of people in general chat, help chat and even stratics users reporting that their freshly farmed , never left their hands items are showing up as duped. I

No message from EA...:pancakes:... it doesn't work on EM items someone said? :pancakes:

Why is this live on all of our servers? Your job is to make sure the playerbase has a good experience, this obviously does not do anything to effect anything other than hurt your paying subscribers experience in the game.

I think the effort was good, but this isn't the answer, why wasn't this discussed with more community invovement before made live? Pull this back to test center and let's rehash how to best do this.

*looks puzzled*
 

Oops

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Kelmo, look at what your fellow moderator posted, or scroll through these boards which you moderate. Your puzzled look won't last long ! :)
 

kelmo

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No... I am continually amazed and puzzled by a lot of Stratics users... Did you read both of the posts quoted? Which is it?
 

Oops

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No... I am continually amazed and puzzled by a lot of Stratics users... Did you read both of the posts quoted? Which is it?
Indeed I read the posts, as it would seem there are varying issues with this implementation. Is that a conclusion you could reach by reading through the threads?
 

kelmo

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Endless amounts of people... show me all of that. The endless list.
 

kelmo

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If we had an endless list, we would not have an issue as we would be playing with the endless amounts of players.
 

Acid Rain

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Just finished testing all my stuff & as anyone that knows me can attest, Ive got virtual junkyards of stuff. Only 1 piece gave me the duped message and I kinda thought it may be. Bought a gladiators collar replica off an old EX-guildy. The douchbag ended up getting booted from my guild but a month or so before then he was in vent crying abt how poor he was and he needed money so he would sell to a guildy cheap.

Lesson learned... had I gone with my gut instead of trying ta help out this whiner, I wouldn't have this crap.

Prediction : Expect to see PLENTY of "Vendor" shops popping up that DON'T use vendors but instead display items and ask for bids over ICQ.
 

Adol

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I had a look over my own Castle O'Crap, and I was somewhat pleased to see there were only 2 items I didn't either earn myself, or was there when it dropped; One was my Singing Ball which I had transferred from another shard, and which turned out to be able to go on a Vendor... and which hopefully means it's genuine. And the other was my cow statue. Ok, Ok... my cow statues. 27 of them. Don't you judge me!!! But interestingly, none of them failed to be placed either, especially as they're one of the most consistently expensive noisy deco statues. Cownclusive hoof, I mean proof that cow lovers are scrupulously honest!
 
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