Will we ever see a poison nerf?

[Lythos-]

No need to beat chests here guys.

Poison cycling has been a part of dueling as long as i can remember. The immunity or whatever it is, is frustrating. Top that with casting focus and, just my personal opinion, dueling/field fighting becomes a disaster.

I would really like to see a true poison resistance chance added like the way resisting spells work with poison. Having resist lowers chance of getting poisoned and could possibly stack with whatever level poisoning you have.

 

[Lynk]

Natural immunity is very frustrating.

@ The guy who says poisoning is hard to gain - lol what? It takes 3 hours from 0 to GM.

 

[HP_Zoro_HP]

and how many complaints do you mystics out there get from dexers who do nothign but spam inectious strike after you go into stone form? (Aww you suck) (I bet you dont kill anyone) (*LAUGH* Stone form? Really?)

Its as if they think standing there on foot being wacked by an infectoius strike non stop is enjoyable :-0

 

[RazicGL]

Personally I have a nox assasin and I had to sacrifice 90 skill points to use that ability. I can still be poisoned but after the 1st tick i generally cure! a crazy thing happened to me though! I poisoned a guy with a blow dart and he drank this orange potion that cured him before the first tick! Oh my gooses! seriously. the poison immunity, to me, and I have been on both sides of it is kind of a moot point. you should be chugging anyhow which negates the poison and if you want to keep a nox player poisoned just cycle your poison spell more often? I am fairly new to PvP and to be honest I dont spam poison, i use it as a means to heal a little damage back and to interupt heals. I had to use 90 skill points to gain that "immunity" that doesn't kick in until after the 1st tick. ANYONE can equip enhance pots items and chug a potion. having a stack of greater cure potions is basically immunity too. Only unattended players or newer PvP players will fall to poison or even be troubled by it. If I am stalking champ spawns and come across a PvM char working the spawn 9 outta 10 times my opening combo drops them. If there is a PvP player working the spawn I give myself 4 out of 10 odds that I will survive, immunity or not. thats the style of play I use and the trade off in points. You can counter anything in the game. I think what the real issue is, is that people want to be able to manage ANY situation without having to adapt their characters. They feel that other skills should be changed to suit their style of play. Thats just a perseption and not intended as an offensive gesture to anyone.

 

[HP_Zoro_HP]

Personally I have a nox assasin and I had to sacrifice 90 skill points to use that ability. I can still be poisoned but after the 1st tick i generally cure! a crazy thing happened to me though! I poisoned a guy with a blow dart and he drank this orange potion that cured him before the first tick! Oh my gooses! seriously. the poison immunity, to me, and I have been on both sides of it is kind of a moot point. you should be chugging anyhow which negates the poison and if you want to keep a nox player poisoned just cycle your poison spell more often? I am fairly new to PvP and to be honest I dont spam poison, i use it as a means to heal a little damage back and to interupt heals. I had to use 90 skill points to gain that "immunity" that doesn't kick in until after the 1st tick. ANYONE can equip enhance pots items and chug a potion. having a stack of greater cure potions is basically immunity too. Only unattended players or newer PvP players will fall to poison or even be troubled by it. If I am stalking champ spawns and come across a PvM char working the spawn 9 outta 10 times my opening combo drops them. If there is a PvP player working the spawn I give myself 4 out of 10 odds that I will survive, immunity or not. thats the style of play I use and the trade off in points. You can counter anything in the game. I think what the real issue is, is that people want to be able to manage ANY situation without having to adapt their characters. They feel that other skills should be changed to suit their style of play. Thats just a perseption and not intended as an offensive gesture to anyone.

still reading your reply but in regards to the 90 skill... Thats NOTHING compared to what Mystic mages, Necro mages, parry mages, any other class really has to sacrifice. Thats like saying 90 skill is all u need to turn a char into a class that can kill any template by just DP DP DP DP DP all day and night.

 

[RazicGL]

still reading your reply but in regards to the 90 skill... Thats NOTHING compared to what Mystic mages, Necro mages, parry mages, any other class really has to sacrifice. Thats like saying 90 skill is all u need to turn a char into a class that can kill any template by just DP DP DP DP DP all day and night.

totally not. I had to also get 120 fencing, tactics, ninja 90 poisoning. thats 450 skill points before You even start. the 90 was relating to just the immunity. in order to use it offensivly I have to have the supporting skills, wep skill / tactics / poison for the special moves ninja for shiruken and Blow dart poisoning.

A mage / mystic / necro has access to what around 90 - 100 spells combined??

poisoning has the ability to inflict lethal poison and grants immunity to poison...

 

[Tanivar]

Natural immunity is very frustrating.

@ The guy who says poisoning is hard to gain - lol what? It takes 3 hours from 0 to GM.

Sit down and try training Poisoning to GM yourself. You'll find whoever told you 3 hours was full of something that makes a great natural fertilizer.

 

[Lythos-]

you should be chugging anyhow which negates the poison and if you want to keep a nox player poisoned just cycle your poison spell more often?

ANYONE can equip enhance pots items and chug a potion. having a stack of greater cure potions is basically immunity too.

I think what the real issue is, is that people want to be able to manage ANY situation without having to adapt their characters. They feel that other skills should be changed to suit their style of play. Thats just a perseption and not intended as an offensive gesture to anyone.

I would rather the player just resist the poison than have it land and immunity kick in. Then again it could go back to your last point of needing to adapt.

You're exactly right about pots. It totally negates those skill points invested into poisoning. Take into consideration there's NO cure pot timer either. With this new publish in test there will be a 10sec dp reapp timer for dexxers.

Great post especially from a newer pvper!! Good job bro.

still reading your reply but in regards to the 90 skill... Thats NOTHING compared to what Mystic mages, Necro mages, parry mages, any other class really has to sacrifice. Thats like saying 90 skill is all u need to turn a char into a class that can kill any template by just DP DP DP DP DP all day and night.

Not sure how long you've been playing but way way back apples had no timer when almost all the high end mages played a necro. It made them almost useless. Same can be said for today's poisoning and no timer on cure pots. Yeah sometimes it takes a few pots to cure but for the majority it's just an annoyance. When i play my dper maybe 1 in 50 apps require an arch cure.

Mystic has some high end offense and defense spells. It should require more skill points.

 

[RazicGL]

I would rather the player just resist the poison than have it land and immunity kick in. Then again it could go back to your last point of needing to adapt.

You're exactly right about pots. It totally negates those skill points invested into poisoning. Take into consideration there's NO cure pot timer either. With this new publish in test there will be a 10sec dp reapp timer for dexxers.

Great post especially from a newer pvper!! Good job bro.



Not sure how long you've been playing but way way back apples had no timer when almost all the high end mages played a necro. It made them almost useless. Same can be said for today's poisoning and no timer on cure pots. Yeah sometimes it takes a few pots to cure but for the majority it's just an annoyance. When i play my dper maybe 1 in 50 apps require an arch cure.

Mystic has some high end offense and defense spells. It should require more skill points.

Thanks man, I must admis I will be happy to see the 10sec DP reapp timer! may see a little more use of faster ticking lower poison for disruptions! hehe The idea for it to work like resist spells is sound too. I think all in all it just comes down to oppinion, mine is no more valid than anyone elses, I can understand why it would frustrate people but to me its just another hazard to overcome

 

[HP_Zoro_HP]

I would rather the player just resist the poison than have it land and immunity kick in. Then again it could go back to your last point of needing to adapt.

You're exactly right about pots. It totally negates those skill points invested into poisoning. Take into consideration there's NO cure pot timer either. With this new publish in test there will be a 10sec dp reapp timer for dexxers.

Great post especially from a newer pvper!! Good job bro.



Not sure how long you've been playing but way way back apples had no timer when almost all the high end mages played a necro. It made them almost useless. Same can be said for today's poisoning and no timer on cure pots. Yeah sometimes it takes a few pots to cure but for the majority it's just an annoyance. When i play my dper maybe 1 in 50 apps require an arch cure.

Mystic has some high end offense and defense spells. It should require more skill points.

Ok wow let me educate you here.... 10 deadly poison potions will give you how many charges... Thats right 10-12 charges (guessing since I dont even play melee) and you have only 10 greater cure potions... Which do you think will last longer or out last the other? The person with 10 deadly poison potions or the person with only 10 greater cures (remember not every greater cure will work). So essentially a DP spammer can basically have his weapon DPd all day... I dont think its righ tthat they are able to re apply the DP while flagged or in the heat of battle. That I don't think is right.

 

[Lynk]

Sit down and try training Poisoning to GM yourself. You'll find whoever told you 3 hours was full of something that makes a great natural fertilizer.

I'm sorry you're not quite as adept at I am in gaining skills in Ultima Online. Just because you can't do it doesn't mean it isn't possible.

 

[Love them Redheads]

I'm sorry you're not quite as adept at I am in gaining skills in Ultima Online. Just because you can't do it doesn't mean it isn't possible.

Umm I've done it 3 times and it certainly takes longer than 3 hours.

Or are you one of those people who needs an asterisk next to your statements because you really meant to say you bought an advanced char token, a bunch of pinks and ran a script for 3 hours to gm poisoning?

 

[Lynk]

Umm I've done it 3 times and it certainly takes longer than 3 hours.

Or are you one of those people who needs an asterisk next to your statements because you really meant to say you bought an advanced char token, a bunch of pinks and ran a script for 3 hours to gm poisoning?

L2P BRO, I'M NOT HERE TO TEACH PLEBIANS

 

[Tanivar]

L2P BRO, I'M NOT HERE TO TEACH PLEBIANS

You couldn't teach someone to train Poisoning that fast so what else could you say?

You one of the folks who can train Taming from zero to legendary in an afternoon as well?

You really shouldn't claim to be able to do impossible things. The only impression your giving people is that your pulling their legs or spouting bull by claiming such wondrous ability, not that your truly L33t at playing UO.

What's the next claim going to be, that 5 minutes after the new armor publish is released you gathered materials and made the most powerful suits possible for yourself and all your guild?

Oh btw, it's spelled plebeian, not plebian. At least get the spelling right if your going to refer to the rest of us as common folks.

 

[Lythos-]

Ok wow let me educate you here.... 10 deadly poison potions will give you how many charges... Thats right 10-12 charges (guessing since I dont even play melee) and you have only 10 greater cure potions... Which do you think will last longer or out last the other? The person with 10 deadly poison potions or the person with only 10 greater cures (remember not every greater cure will work). So essentially a DP spammer can basically have his weapon DPd all day... I dont think its righ tthat they are able to re apply the DP while flagged or in the heat of battle. That I don't think is right.

So you think a whole skill should be totally negated by a 1 button backpack macro not even requiring EP? Sounds legit. :loser:

Secondly, since this skill IS negated by a backpack, well if you can't stock enough then that's really your own fault. Most of the time a simple cure macro takes care of it.

I don't think you should complain though. They COULD and probably should slap a timer on cure pots since there's going to be a 10sec timer on infecting.

 

[Lynk]

You couldn't teach someone to train Poisoning that fast so what else could you say?

You one of the folks who can train Taming from zero to legendary in an afternoon as well?

You really shouldn't claim to be able to do impossible things. The only impression your giving people is that your pulling their legs or spouting bull by claiming such wondrous ability, not that your truly L33t at playing UO.

What's the next claim going to be, that 5 minutes after the new armor publish is released you gathered materials and made the most powerful suits possible for yourself and all your guild?

Oh btw, it's spelled plebeian, not plebian. At least get the spelling right if your going to refer to the rest of us as common folks.

I SENSE JEALOUSY THAT YOU CAN'T WORK PSN AS FAST AS ME PLEB.

 

[Petra Fyde]

Since this thread has descended, yet again, into personal attacks and chest thumping I think it's time to call a halt.