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More stable slots.

Uvtha

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Gotta bring this subject up every now and again. Stable slots needs a bump. IMO a big one. There are 0 downsides to giving people more slots, and more slots would have 0 effect on game play, other than allowing people more freedom to experience more of the games non high end content.

Do it.
 

Warpig Inc

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Yat to do the stall sale upgrade so I ask. Does a bonded pet placed for sale in a stall stay bonded? Or do they only take unbonded pets? Wouldn't overpriced pets in stalls be a way to have more pets?
 

Uvtha

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Yat to do the stall sale upgrade so I ask. Does a bonded pet placed for sale in a stall stay bonded? Or do they only take unbonded pets? Wouldn't overpriced pets in stalls be a way to have more pets?
I don't know, I never bought that add on, so I can't say. Regardless you shouldn't have to abuse a game mechanic to have enough room for the pets you want.

I honestly don't know why there are any stable limits at all, or at least why the stable limits aren't super high. The only argument against unlimited stable slots is an issue of data, and I refuse to believe that pets are THAT much more data than say, a sword..

And as you say you can have an unlimited (is that true?) number of pets in bazaar stalls, so its clearly not an issue of data.

But I mean seriously, if (big if) you have 120 in vet, lore, and taming you have a paltry 16 stable slots to deal with. Considering the fact that there are nearly 100 different tamable creatures, many of which are pack animals, which would require multiple of the same animal to hunt with, and a several have many different colors... 16 simply is not enough slots.

I have never seen a reason as to why the stable slots are so limited. I wonder if its not some screwy thing in the code or something seeing as stables slots used to be tied to the sever the stable was on?

Anyone remember back in the day when people blocked the spawn of nightmares by taming them, and walking them up to the Del stables, so that it had never left the server, and thus didn't go back into the spawn pool, and thus didn't respawn. Do stables like... count the creatures stabled in them as on the server someplace or something idiotic like that?

I wonder. Anyway, it's super annoying.
 
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Lady Storm

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I do agree we do need an upgrade. My crafters could use a few more, just ny miner alone could use a few slots.. you figure he has 2 packies, 1 blue bug, 1 fire bug,and his pet squirel Thats 5 slots when the average non tamer has only 2 slots, 3 if they configure the skills right..... its not enough..

As for tamers they too could use a few more slots ...new pets and the loath to distroy favorite old ones nakes for a tight stable
 
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DerekL

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Considering the fact that there are nearly 100 different tamable creatures, many of which are pack animals, which would require multiple of the same animal to hunt with, and a several have many different colors... 16 simply is not enough slots.
Seriously, hoarding is not a reason to increase stable slots.
 

Uvtha

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Seriously, hoarding is not a reason to increase stable slots.
How is the fact that the number of tamable creatures is 6 times greater than the number of pets you can have in your stable at maximum skill levels an argument for hoarding? Ignoring the fact that there are only a handful of 4-5 slot pets, meaning that most tamables will need (or highly suggest) at least one other tamable to hunt with.

Anyways, if someone wants to have one of every animal in the game, what difference would that make? It would effect absolutly no one other than the person doing the taming.

And why is it ok to hoard every other single thing in the game, but not pets?
 

Uvtha

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I do agree we do need an upgrade. My crafters could use a few more, just ny miner alone could use a few slots.. you figure he has 2 packies, 1 blue bug, 1 fire bug,and his pet squirel Thats 5 slots when the average non tamer has only 2 slots, 3 if they configure the skills right..... its not enough..

As for tamers they too could use a few more slots ...new pets and the loath to distroy favorite old ones nakes for a tight stable
Yeah, the impetus for making this post was the fact that I had to release my pet turkey the other day. I didn't want to, but I just couldn't justify keeping it.
Also thought to myself last night "Maybe I'll tame some raptors, or wolf spiders and mess around with them", but I realized I can't do that, because my stables are already full of pets I really don't want to release.
 

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I do agree we do need an upgrade. My crafters could use a few more, just ny miner alone could use a few slots.. you figure he has 2 packies, 1 blue bug, 1 fire bug,and his pet squirel Thats 5 slots when the average non tamer has only 2 slots, 3 if they configure the skills right..... its not enough..

As for tamers they too could use a few more slots ...new pets and the loath to distroy favorite old ones nakes for a tight stable
What about increasing the base stable slots to 5, there is alot low level pets now, all can control.
Horse, Llama, Ostard
Packies
Swamp Dragon
Blue Beetles
Fire Beetles
Leather Wolves and other crafted pets
This pets from crystals, Wollem?, they fight well
pet turkey, Squirels and Ferret
 
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BeaIank

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I am for an increase of stable slots.
16 is not enough to hold pets with pack instinct, if you actually want to have other pets as well.
We should have at least twice that amount, and the base stable slots could use a bump to 6 to 10 slots.
That would benefit everyone.
 

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Stable slots should just become follower based.

say a stable could hold ~80~ followers at 120 taming, lore, & vet.

Each pet takes slots based on how many followers it takes up:

One Greater Dragon would be 5/80 stable slots.
That would allow tamers to have a well-balanced set of pets.
a pack of 5 ostards would take the same amount as 1 greater dragon...

They just have to make sure they don't change the amount of pets you could have in the stable for those characters without taming, lore, & vet.

More importantly, tamers need a way to apply "Slayer" bonuses to their pets... IMO.
 

kRUXCg7

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I believe more stable slots would mean more players come back to the game and they will more easily stay in the game and pay their valueable subscription fees. I really think it's the same as it is in Youtube: Once I start watching one kitten movie while at office, 1 or 2 co workers will come. If I watch 10 kitten movies, I will gather at least 10 people around my desk! And... the more kittens I get to see, the more time I will spend at Youtube! That will also ensure that all those co workers that saw the kittens on my screen, will want them on their screen, too. Very simple maths, very simple statistics and a guaranteed way to quadruple income with UO subscription fees IMHO.:mylittlepony:
 

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What about increasing the base stable slots to 5, there is alot low level pets now, all can control.
Horse, Llama, Ostard
Packies
Swamp Dragon
Blue Beetles
Fire Beetles
Leather Wolves and other crafted pets
This pets from crystals, Wollem?, they fight well
pet turkey, Squirels and Ferret
That is not enough slots for a crafter.
5 Packies
1 Blue Beetle
1 Fire Beetle
That is 7 slots needed just for gathering/moving items.

IMHO Blue and Fire Beetles should only require 2 follower slots not 3. They are only a combo of two things, Ridable Packie or Ridable Forge.
 

Lord Frodo

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Stable slots should just become follower based.

say a stable could hold ~80~ followers at 120 taming, lore, & vet.

Each pet takes slots based on how many followers it takes up:

One Greater Dragon would be 5/80 stable slots.
That would allow tamers to have a well-balanced set of pets.
a pack of 5 ostards would take the same amount as 1 greater dragon...

They just have to make sure they don't change the amount of pets you could have in the stable for those characters without taming, lore, & vet.

More importantly, tamers need a way to apply "Slayer" bonuses to their pets... IMO.
NP if you let me take them all out at the same time. JK 80/follower count is not much of an upgrade for hardcore Tamers and how many would you get at 0 skills, zero.
 

Tina Small

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Supposedly there is a new Housing Theme Pack coming soon. Would adding another two stable slots to every character, as happened with the Stygian Abyss expansion, be a good addition to that theme pack?

The formatting of Mesanna's January 18th letter ( http://uo.com/article/Letter-Producer-1 ) makes it look like the upcoming theme pack is going to include the following:
  • New couches, chairs, tables, beds, lots and lots of lamps, pictures, and tapestries. (46 new pieces of art total)
  • Advanced Tinkering – This will allows players to create new gadgets, one example is being able to create a light switch for your house to turn off and on your lamps
  • Changing the Co Owner status from 10 co-owners to 10 accounts as co-owners on one house (70 players)
I have to be honest that I'm not sure I will want to buy this theme pack for more than maybe one or two of my accounts. Without any additional details on what it includes and the price, it just doesn't have me waiting on the edge of my seat in anticipation. However, if it also included a modest bump in stable slots for all characters, I might consider adding it to a few of my other accounts that have tamers on them. Edited to add: If you already have the SA expansion and this new theme pack added another 2 stable slots per character, that would give non-tamer characters 6 stable slots and tamer characters a maximum of 18 stable slots, depending on their skill set.
 
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gunneroforgin

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I am for more follower slots. 6 or 7 total will do. When I go mining I can have a fire beetle and blue beetle at the same time, I would like my tamer to be able to ride my greater dragon too.
 
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More slots would be good. We do have a way to increase storage to collect other items. I would like to have a few other pets stowed away to use for fun.
 

Goldberg-Chessy

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I dont play my tamer that often and am fine with the current number of slots.

But I see no reason why it could not be increased.

I think that if people wanted it bad enough they would probably even pay a small fee for the ability to increase stable size so why not sell it in the online store?
 

Uvtha

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I dont play my tamer that often and am fine with the current number of slots.

But I see no reason why it could not be increased.

I think that if people wanted it bad enough they would probably even pay a small fee for the ability to increase stable size so why not sell it in the online store?
I would probably pay a fee if the extra slots were at least substantial though I would think its exceptionally lame because I already pay them every month. I really just don't understand why its so limited, and why boosts one gets every 3-5 years are so small.
 
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Lady Storm

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Ok being the resident antique ...... back in the day when there was no such thing as slots for pets on your bar and when stables had no limit to what you could stable there... there was a problem.... it seems that once long long ago.. the Dev had issues with space on the servers... now you have to remember this was quite some time ago... and they changed for the best at the time the rules of pets... now this was when a tamer could sell a few drakes to a hunter... and make a few coins for her or his trouble.... I for instance had a pair of WWs and my guild mate his and we would go in Destard and havve a day of collecting leather and meat and training the bunch of housemate WWs. This bunch of changes they put in made life for tamers hell and space even for the common crafter was miserable!
Today however......
We are on the cloud.... and from what i can see the system even if we had the old servers they would have room to revert this folly back to the old ways and still have room for more.

Dev wake up.... with the gamut of pets tameable out there and the new and old pets in hand... this stable count business is out of date. I cansee you thinking it is good to place limits on players but be honest... do we really have that many players left to make a big problem.

As for the old pets ... I will not get rid of my babys for no ones wish that I do so to make room for some more... Personaly I want that "special food" to bring up my WW to GD status...
 

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Said it before and guess have to say it again.

The stable is a container, it should hold 125 items. Absolutely nothing to do with server load, if you can store 125 swords you can store 125 pets. This goes for tamers as well as non tamers. Who the hell cares who has what in a stable. Seriously doubt that people will store 125 horses just because they can. If you have a need for a pet, be it as a work/warrior pet, role play pet, social pet, event pet (ie chicken fights) why not? You can only ever have 5 follower slots out at any given time so it doesn't affect game play in that regard. If I want to tame/store up 30 rideable llamas so that I can run a player run event, I should be able to.

The only thing limiting stable slots does is LIMIT game play.

Would of thought that anything that actually LIMITS game play would be something the devs would like to eradicate. Same as co-ownership on houses. Another unnecessary LIMIT to game play continuously discussed but never addressed.

All it requires is changing the coded 3 or 16 to 125. Hardly difficult.
 

Tina Small

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Said it before and guess have to say it again.

The stable is a container, it should hold 125 items. Absolutely nothing to do with server load, if you can store 125 swords you can store 125 pets. This goes for tamers as well as non tamers. Who the hell cares who has what in a stable. Seriously doubt that people will store 125 horses just because they can. If you have a need for a pet, be it as a work/warrior pet, role play pet, social pet, event pet (ie chicken fights) why not? You can only ever have 5 follower slots out at any given time so it doesn't affect game play in that regard. If I want to tame/store up 30 rideable llamas so that I can run a player run event, I should be able to.

The only thing limiting stable slots does is LIMIT game play.

Would of thought that anything that actually LIMITS game play would be something the devs would like to eradicate. Same as co-ownership on houses. Another unnecessary LIMIT to game play continuously discussed but never addressed.

All it requires is changing the coded 3 or 16 to 125. Hardly difficult.
Do you think the stable "container" might also count the backpack contents of non-pack animal pets that haven't died yet and lost those items? If it does, I guess they might have to potentially reserve item counts for those items as well when planning how many things you can stuff in a stable.
 

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Do you think the stable "container" might also count the backpack contents of non-pack animal pets that haven't died yet and lost those items? If it does, I guess they might have to potentially reserve item counts for those items as well when planning how many things you can stuff in a stable.
Given you cant currently stable a pet with items in it no. Non -pack animals can currently be stabled ie you can have 16 cu sidhes which have items on them when dead, or 16 pets that don't have items on death. Shouldn't make any difference. Seriously it is all just code, and this topic has come up again and again and again. No other class of character is limited in such a way to limit their game play.

My tamer does NOT tame any more. There are lots of things I would like to do as a tamer but cannot do due to not having pet slots.

Even my crafters are limited, there are many times when I have the need for 5 packies, but can't bond them due to having fire and giant beetles already stabled. Tough if I also want a few 'pets'. I didn't even bother bonding a turkey or anything due to not having stable slots. You just can't justify novelty pets even as a crafter, and tamers have no chance.
 
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Lord Frodo

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Ok being the resident antique ...... back in the day when there was no such thing as slots for pets on your bar and when stables had no limit to what you could stable there... there was a problem.... it seems that once long long ago.. the Dev had issues with space on the servers... now you have to remember this was quite some time ago... and they changed for the best at the time the rules of pets... now this was when a tamer could sell a few drakes to a hunter... and make a few coins for her or his trouble.... I for instance had a pair of WWs and my guild mate his and we would go in Destard and havve a day of collecting leather and meat and training the bunch of housemate WWs. This bunch of changes they put in made life for tamers hell and space even for the common crafter was miserable!
Today however......
We are on the cloud.... and from what i can see the system even if we had the old servers they would have room to revert this folly back to the old ways and still have room for more.

Dev wake up.... with the gamut of pets tameable out there and the new and old pets in hand... this stable count business is out of date. I cansee you thinking it is good to place limits on players but be honest... do we really have that many players left to make a big problem.

As for the old pets ... I will not get rid of my babys for no ones wish that I do so to make room for some more... Personaly I want that "special food" to bring up my WW to GD status...
You aint that old youngin. :) It was great going out with a Tamer with 4 dragons in tow and watching people run and hide. LOL
 

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So do I kiddo
I miss my friend Tim and his big WW .. we would go to the Blood eles (back then it was fel dungeons for best time) his WW and me as the healer. I gm'ed vet with him and his WW.
Then I got my baby ... She still is my brat and I want her and her brother able to go swoop hunting again, I know it is too much to ask the dev for both at once but at the very least give me something to boost them up to GD status! Mnementh my mare and Crystal my WW were a team... now.... cant take my WW out of hte stable as every bloody mosnter they creat these days murder them in 1 swat... i am sorry guys the exclation of power has to end...... I am so sick and tired of it...
 

Uvtha

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Said it before and guess have to say it again.

The stable is a container, it should hold 125 items. Absolutely nothing to do with server load, if you can store 125 swords you can store 125 pets. This goes for tamers as well as non tamers. Who the hell cares who has what in a stable. Seriously doubt that people will store 125 horses just because they can. If you have a need for a pet, be it as a work/warrior pet, role play pet, social pet, event pet (ie chicken fights) why not? You can only ever have 5 follower slots out at any given time so it doesn't affect game play in that regard. If I want to tame/store up 30 rideable llamas so that I can run a player run event, I should be able to.

The only thing limiting stable slots does is LIMIT game play.

Would of thought that anything that actually LIMITS game play would be something the devs would like to eradicate. Same as co-ownership on houses. Another unnecessary LIMIT to game play continuously discussed but never addressed.

All it requires is changing the coded 3 or 16 to 125. Hardly difficult.
125 slots would really be great... I could have an army of giant rats and not feel bad about it!
 

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So do I kiddo
I miss my friend Tim and his big WW .. we would go to the Blood eles (back then it was fel dungeons for best time) his WW and me as the healer. I gm'ed vet with him and his WW.
Then I got my baby ... She still is my brat and I want her and her brother able to go swoop hunting again, I know it is too much to ask the dev for both at once but at the very least give me something to boost them up to GD status! Mnementh my mare and Crystal my WW were a team... now.... cant take my WW out of hte stable as every bloody mosnter they creat these days murder them in 1 swat... i am sorry guys the exclation of power has to end...... I am so sick and tired of it...
I get funny looks every time I take my WW and Mare out and go do Swoop. Its nice going back and playing with them now and again.
 

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I would go every where with my WW..... my mare usualy i was sitting on him hehe but it was fun and when the G dragons came in to match the power race critters the Dev were putting out left and right my WW couldnt compete.. I have hyru's sitting in the stable... cu's i do use once in a while.. my dread mare I once in a great while swap out for Mnementh and take fora short run and let him gather some exp.. but I go back to Mnementh... I have had that mare from practicaly day one when they first let us tame them with out tamer skills ... for a long time I kept him and crystal safe from death, she too was from that early time in UO. Bonding was the best thing for them and me.. but this war of power has to stop and the Dev do need to do something to let my babys come out of the stable and play... in truth its keeping me from going out as well. Soon i am afraid ill get bored and quit as I have little to keep me in game as it is.. You see I enjoy the smaller things in game... hunting with my pet for leather to do bods... or mining,crafting... things that kept me in UO to begin with... my pets are a big part of this.. Someone asked well after you hit 120 in all the skills for taming what then... well I have done it on a few of my ladys.. and I did have great time with my babys till this power struggle the Dev and the over zelous started.... I am fed up and tired of it....
If that proof reader see's this you best listen up .. I for one am not alone... if you like your pay check and want ot keep seeing it you best tell the Dev what is up kiddo... Too many like me are fed up and want some action to promote UO and Work with us. Stop the power war and look for ways to better the game not just blow us off.
**soap box is being put away** Sorry Frodo I get soo uptight at them for the stupid moves they do to please the few power hungry..
 

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How is the fact that the number of tamable creatures is 6 times greater than the number of pets you can have in your stable at maximum skill levels an argument for hoarding?
It's not an argument for hoarding. It's not an argument against hoarding. It's a statement of how many tamables are in the game.

And why is it ok to hoard every other single thing in the game, but not pets?
If there were no limits elsewhere in the game on what you could keep - that would be a valid statement.

Also thought to myself last night "Maybe I'll tame some raptors, or wolf spiders and mess around with them", but I realized I can't do that, because my stables are already full of pets I really don't want to release.
Keeping too many pets around is a choice you made for yourself - it's not the Dev's problem. Currently I have three slots open - and that's *with* a pack of Frenzies in my stable.
 

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Well let me clear this little point of contention up there kiddos...
Each time the Dev made a new publish that came with "new" tameables the old ones were in stable and still loved enough to hold on to.. then the Dev in the past who were not known for their wisdom... put limits in. oh I can say with a bit more then a smattering of truth that those limits are no longer needed but the Dev of today is loath to change anything unless it is for the good of the almighty EA god. I have WW's and Nightmares from the earliest days of taming... do I toss them out to the cold? or my Dragons who were my main life line for more years then I care to tell. Now its Greater Dragons and more ...
I agree its alot to hold in a stable but what pet do you toss out?? In my case... I have had to move my lesser loves to another tamer I made to store them... I play most of my babys if I can.... The war of power has made the recient Dev create more pets we want one of..... with years of favorite pets... I for one need a bigger stable.
 

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Just another player request, which popped up so often in the past years and has been ignored so carefully by the designers of the game.

Even the Magincia pet trade is only half thought, since it is bound to the booster. Which would be fine if you want act as trader. But surprisingly I found, that you cannot buy pets there from those, who paid for the booster, if you don't have the booster on your account yourself.

But yes, one can still hope.
(Why we can't "lock down" pets in our houses or convert the vet reward statues into usefull tools to catch/release the "essence" of existing pets?)

*Salute*
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Uvtha

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It's not an argument for hoarding. It's not an argument against hoarding. It's a statement of how many tamables are in the game.



If there were no limits elsewhere in the game on what you could keep - that would be a valid statement.



Keeping too many pets around is a choice you made for yourself - it's not the Dev's problem. Currently I have three slots open - and that's *with* a pack of Frenzies in my stable.
Yeah... 16 (at max) vs what... 1600 items? 16 vs 125 at minimum. How does that compare? Yes I agree, it was my choice to play a tamer and want to experiment, but unlike any other class I have a VERY hard cap set on how much of that part of the game I can experience. Warriors can have 1000 weapons. Mages can have all of the spells. Crafters can make all of the items. Tamers can use 16 of the 100 pets (ignoring all of the monsters with low follower slots, that you need 2-5 of to hunt with.)

And the core of the issue is there is no reason for such low stable slots. We are thematically encouraged to not treat our pets as tools to throw away, so obviously the game is not expecting you to tame and release pets all the time, they are expecting you to keep the pets you tame. It's counter intuitive to limit you so strictly. It only serves to limit peoples experience and enjoyment.
 

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This is a no brainer imo.
I wouldn't have to see a funky cool colored Hiyru and just walk by it anymore... knowing I couldn't keep it without sacrificing my other pets...
 

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I went through my translog.txt file and looked at the backpack contents of various types of pets that have been owned by characters I've either transferred across shards or copies to Test Center and this is what I found listed as the kinds of things these pets hold in their backpacks:

Greater Dragons: At least 6 items, always including 4 piles of gems (even if they are identical to each other) and always 2 piles of gold.
Dragons: 3 items, including 2 piles of gems and one pile of gold.
Rune Beetle: 2 to 5 items, including gold, a spell scroll, one or two piles of reagents, a seed. Sometimes they had a small gem, gold, and a seed. One had gold, a spell scroll, and a jaw bone.
Hiryu: Gold.
Bane Dragon: Gold.
Cu sidhe: Gold.
White wyrm: 2 items--gold and 1 pile of gems.
Nightmare: 4 items, including potion bottle, spell scroll, sulfurous ash, gold.
Boura: Commonly up to 2 items (boura pelt and sometimes a boura skin). Do not know if the boura tail shield would show up in the pack of a boura when it becomes tamed.
Fire beetle: 2 items--ingots and sulfurous ash.
Vollem: 4 items, including a potion bottle, spell scroll, sulfurous ash, gold.

My guess is that many of the pets can have bolts and/or arrows in their packs, even if they have died and been rezzed already. (I saw bolts and arrows in the inventories of greater dragons, hiryus, cu sidhe, and nightmares.) I suspect some of them could potentially also have a musical instrument in their backpack. (I found one nightmare I had transferred or copied had a lute in its backpack.)

So if a tamed greater dragon that has never died always has 6 items in its pack and you have 16 of them in the stable, that might count as 16 pets and 96 items (16*6), for a total potential item count of 112 items. However, if they can also pick up bolts and arrows (and some of mine have), you would need to add on another 32 items (16*2), for a total potential item count of 144. If a musical instrument can spawn as greater dragon lute that is preserved in its backpack when it is tamed, tack on 16 more items for a total potential item count of 160.

I don't know how the stabling system actually counts animals and items in their backpacks. However, if it is true that it is just one container, it makes sense to me that the items in the backpacks of stabled pets that have never died probably counts against the item limit for that container. If so, that could be why we have the stable count limit that we do and not something higher. I don't know enough about how containers are handled in UO to know if it would be all that difficult to raise the maximum number of items a stable container could hold, but I would imagine just adding stable slots isn't necessarily as simple as it might sound on the surface.
 

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In my vast taming time in UO the slots have never been effected by the pets pack unless its a packie or blue bug. I use to have them drop what they carried before the change the Dev put in .. but it at times does work. Stable slots need to be open there is no longer a need to keep the #'s down ... Not sure who said it but was told that all pets are kept on the client side of the game... now if that is the case ... there is no reason to not open it up.
 
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Wenchkin

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I think if pet carried items are a problem for storage the simple solution is to make them like pack critters - you get a message to empty them out before they can be stabled :)

Or, at the end of a battle a pet transfers anything it's carrying to its owner, just to keep those pesky bolts/arrows from gathering lol.

It is kinda funny that tamers have to make new tamer chars to hold our pets - can you imagine a warrior making another warrior to hold his extra swords? My thief has snooped warriors with more weapons in their backpack than a tamer has in their whole stables. Just daft really...

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MalagAste

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Currently I have 7 tamers on 9 accounts on my home shard.

Each of them boasts a horde of critters. One likes cats, one likes her pack of Ostards... a few store colors of Hiryu's and CuSidhe... I'd like to have room for more pets. I have one character who had to give up her pair of SwampDragons in favor of keeping gifts of a pair of Ferrets given by someone who was quitting UO. It was heartwenching to have to give up my beloved swampies. Now I can have 4 pets I could have kept them but quite honestly I think if they are going to limit things Non-Tamers should be allowed to have about 8 to 10 pets. This way they can have a horse, packy or group of packies, Beetle, Fire Beetle, Golem/s etc without having to lose anything.

Tamers ought to have way more slots. What would be wrong with 50? 60? 125? Just tossing numbers out there but honestly All of my Tamers are pretty well full on pets and I'm tired of having to choose what to keep and what to set free and abandon to die alone.

I have 2 other tamers on other shards.
 

Lady Storm

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See what i mean............... who wants to give up their baby for a new one .... it hurts to let go of a beloved pet be it made of pixels! Me give up Mnementh for the top replacement???? GET REAL that is MY BABY.......... and if you think I am Zelous on this try telling another tamer they cant have something or need to trade out... you will geta resounding HELL NO. Open the bloody stable count and gt this over with for crying out loud and while your at it you best fix it so I can take out my pets and fight like every one else... I am so sick and tired of that GDragon hogging all my time my other pets need to exersize too... so fix it! *grumbles about the service here*
 

G.v.P

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Gotta bring this subject up every now and again. Stable slots needs a bump. IMO a big one. There are 0 downsides to giving people more slots, and more slots would have 0 effect on game play, other than allowing people more freedom to experience more of the games non high end content.
I was playing my necro on Atlantic and he doesn't have an ethy, he has a real horse. So I hop off, park him, and go into wraith form to finish off a mob. I'm thinking, man, it's great to have a mount. But if I'm going to use my necro, what's the point of having a real mount once I'm in a fight?

I wish it was more worthwhile to have pets. Maybe a real pet could add an aura or something. If they added more slots per char right now I can't think of anything I'd stash except maybe packhorses for an IDOC. I mean I don't want UO to necessarily become pets online, but until they balance EVs with RCs, might be nice to have something useful outside an ethy. All this run till you get there and 5/5 follower walk when you do is kind of annoying.

Like what if a real horse gave +5 DCI? ;D...
 

Lady Michelle

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Some Players don't want more stable slots why ? Its not like those players have to fill those stable slots.
Some Players want more stable slots why ? Its want players want to be able to have more pets.
So listen to the players who want more slots !!!!! like me. Pets in this game are like pringles you eat one you can't stop.( you tame one you can't stop) Oh wait !!!!! the limit on stable slots stops you.
 

kRUXCg7

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Actually I would love to have a Pringles Box in game for my pets' Tasty Treats. Or maybe a Pringles Box in which I can store some excess pets. In any case - a very nice idea, Lady Michelle! Maybe a 5 years Veteran Reward?
 
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Miss Sorro

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As a returning oldstyle Tamer, I miss the days without limits, I still own all 4 types of Nightmares, then my first mare ever, 3 WW`s ( my first, a hunting companion, and the one I went legendairy tamer on) 2 dragons ( huntercompanion and first self tame, 2 drakes ( my old and better tournament drake) etc etc.. and then there are all these new pets I dont have room for, or even old ones I never had room for....after the change to the followers and stables.

Im weird enough to have 3 tamers on just 1 shard to increase my slots, cause I had my own pets, but then also dear friends who would leave would give them their treasured pets.
Pets you didnt want to refuse cause they would keep the memory of that player alive.

Pet bonding was a blessing, because it let me take out pets who where jailed in the stables because losing them was not an option.
These pets are now jailed again, because they lack strenght to deal with nowadays gameplay.
I used to do Doom with just a pack of mares.. dont see myself doing that now.

Im all for increasing the stableslots or even reverting that change, but I would also like to see my old pets revamped.
It`s the pets that brought me back after 7 years of away from UO.
And it makes me sad that most of them have to stay in the stables permanently just to be taken out every now and then to look at them and smile, cherish memories of days long ago.
 

G.v.P

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As a returning oldstyle Tamer, I miss the days without limits, I still own all 4 types of Nightmares, then my first mare ever, 3 WW`s ( my first, a hunting companion, and the one I went legendairy tamer on) 2 dragons ( huntercompanion and first self tame, 2 drakes ( my old and better tournament drake) etc etc.. and then there are all these new pets I dont have room for, or even old ones I never had room for....after the change to the followers and stables.
I have never in my life kept a drake. I've never thought they were of any use since I started in '99. I tossed my WW a couple of years ago and I think I have one or two mares. I do, however, have about six dread warhorses I never use.
 

Tjalle

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Yeah, the impetus for making this post was the fact that I had to release my pet turkey the other day. I didn't want to, but I just couldn't justify keeping it.
Was it at the Zento stables?
If so, it´s safely stored in my stable atm...
 
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