I enjoy playing my Thrower. I don't have to bang on my keyboard like I did with sampire which I played for 3+ years. What's wrong with us enjoying the game? Isn't that why we play?ROFL, most honest post ever. Hey devs, no nerfing throwers, Madrid plays one. Just grant them the mantle of godhood. LOL.
I have. Made a Human Warrior yesterday on TC and made him a decent Full Plate Suit, and tested it out on various types of monsters., from packs of fast hitters, to slow but hard hitters. I did notice that Stam did seem to get damaged quite fast by packs of fast hitters (like Raptors), but i also noticed that the change to Hit Stam Leech wasn't that huge. I was able to keep my Stam above 130 while fighting a Balron, even though i was only hitting him for a measly 27 damage a hit, it still leeched enough Stam to keep me swinging. I was scratching my head though at taking 20 points of Stam damage from getting hit with a 19 damage FS from him.Something tells me you have not Tested this. They have scaled the lost stamina % to your stamina pool. The more stamina you have the more loss you take, even with plate, Plate will give you a smaller amount of loss but taking 1 point of damage and you lose a a chunk of stamina. I still have not figured out the % loss for metal armor. Bleak gave this in the other thread and to be honest I have more questions after he posted this.
some gargoyles like to throw things, who would of thought that ?ROFL, most honest post ever. Hey devs, no nerfing throwers, Madrid plays one. Just grant them the mantle of godhood. LOL.
Yeah I saw the same situation as soon as I read the patch notes. Now I'm definately a fan of the old school macing "feel", but with the proposed changes (refresh timer most of all) the new Crushing Blow is very worrisome to me. I picture many dexxers using maces (extra stamina damage built in) with hit fatigue (a percent chance for 20% of your damage to do extra stamina damage) and repeatedly using Crushing (increases damage 50% and now drains 10 stamina). It would not be far fetched at all to see hits from that weapon (I shall name it the Immobilizer!) draining upwards of 20+ stamina. This situation could currently be solved/remedied by the mage drinking a refresh potion, but now the refresh potions would have a proposed cooldown of 10 seconds, making the mage very nervous, and likely a sitting duck for those 10 seconds, or at the very least he would be constantly running from the macers.One thing i quickly noticed though, is that Crushing Blow is once again useful. Not just for the extra damage, but specifically for the Stam damage it deals. A few Crushing Blows, and i was able to significantly slow down the attack speed of Balrons or Hiryus. I'd imagine Crushing Blow would be devastating to the Stam pool of a Mage who runs 20-30 DEX/Stam.
Yeah well the fact that I haven't seen a drop from the EM events since they changed them makes me want to quit paying...... and I pay 9 accounts. I have an RP character to participates for RP reasons I am not about to send Any other character..... I'm not about to change my RP character to a stinking Gargoyle either....Disagree MalagAste...
While I understand your frustration at Events and fighting for drops the Thrower is the template I primarily play and I don't want to see if nerfed. I enjoy it the way it is and that's why I keep paying my subscription fees.
I don't know what game everyone else is playing but go take a Thrower to solo Bedlam, or Meraktus, or Primevil and tell me how overpowered they are. Certain templates thrive in certain scenerios. Go throw a sampire with feint up against Osiredon and see how well he does or against Ilhenir and Grizzle and see how you like the effects of what happens to your beloved suit.
Also want to comments about your stance on 1H Throwing vs. 2H Archery. Archers can use Dragon Barding which is a HUGE advantage (20% Damage Reduction). You may not want to use Dragon Barding and forgive me, but anyone with half a brain would do well do sign on for a 20% reduction to all damage taken. It's a huge benefit.
If Archery DPS gets matched with Thrower I see myself playing a Archer just as much as a Thrower.
And if your Plate Armor had the Mage Armor mod it would be just like your friends leather armor.I tested new balance in TC with my main Char Vessel, His Armor is Metal 5 parts, no Chiv, No Bushido, He is just only a Fighter with Longswords.
I tested Balron and Paragon-Balron. Not so bad. at least for Him, this change brings not so much difference.
But, My Friend with leather armor, his stam goes very low, I wonder why so cruel stam damage he got.
Most of change I can allow, but this stam damage should be correct, my simple idea is half damage for Leather armor is acceptable. no need to change it for Metal Armor.
For me, this pub idea is good, but for balance, it is toooooooo much.
Yep. So now the only way for any Warrior class char (PvP/PvM) will be wearing all non-med Plate.I have. Made a Human Warrior yesterday on TC and made him a decent Full Plate Suit, and tested it out on various types of monsters., from packs of fast hitters, to slow but hard hitters. I did notice that Stam did seem to get damaged quite fast by packs of fast hitters (like Raptors), but i also noticed that the change to Hit Stam Leech wasn't that huge. I was able to keep my Stam above 130 while fighting a Balron, even though i was only hitting him for a measly 27 damage a hit, it still leeched enough Stam to keep me swinging. I was scratching my head though at taking 20 points of Stam damage from getting hit with a 19 damage FS from him.
One thing i quickly noticed though, is that Crushing Blow is once again useful. Not just for the extra damage, but specifically for the Stam damage it deals. A few Crushing Blows, and i was able to significantly slow down the attack speed of Balrons or Hiryus. I'd imagine Crushing Blow would be devastating to the Stam pool of a Mage who runs 20-30 DEX/Stam.
Sounds like you need to bring all 9 accounts to these events.Yeah well the fact that I haven't seen a drop from the EM events since they changed them makes me want to quit paying...... and I pay 9 accounts. I have an RP character to participates for RP reasons I am not about to send Any other character..... I'm not about to change my RP character to a stinking Gargoyle either....
and my Sampire is a Macer.....
Just a heads up the stamina issues will be addressed with the next publish to TC. Leather armor will be restored to its current state in production. I want to thank everyone who has submitted feedback so far and look forward to reading more of your posts.
Yeah, the last EM Event i attended was on my home shard of Napa, and luckily i was on my Gargoyle Thrower. The boss was essentially a Slasher of Veils, so all melee that tried to engage him were instantly annihilated, even Greater Dragons were dropping like flies as soon as they got near him. Every time the Slasher was hit with a spell/ranged attack, there was a chance for him to use the Paralyze+Boulder spam ability, and with 50+ people there, most of them ranged, he literally spammed that ability, instantly killing any melee that tried getting near him. Low and behold, none of the melee or Tamers got an event item, while i and a few other ranged did, it was a purple vine looking thing. It's why just to specifically point out this imbalance and unfairness, whenever a EM Event is about to start, i say "EM Event, Melee Need Not Apply". It was the same way with Blackrock Golems in Magincia and Brit.Sounds like you need to bring all 9 accounts to these events.
I can't comment much on EM events because I rarely attend them. What happened to the vending machines...they did away with those?
I don't RP either so I have a hard time comprehending your reluctance to alter your template.
Fight Fire with Fire.
It sounds if your vehemently against altering your Sampire Mace template, however I would consider swapping/soulstoning out some skill points and tossing in Archery. That way you could AI with a composite bow and see if that helps your cause.
I often swap out Resist, Parry or Anatomy in place of Archery depending on the Spawn or Boss. Running Melee and Ranged at the same time can be very effective.
I RP my main character....... Malag who is a Drow.... So there is NO altering him to a Gargoyle thrower. He is what he was born to be... I don't take any of my other RP characters because quite honestly not one of them would really CARE or do anything at an EM event because they aren't members of the Royal Knights..... they don't serve the Kingdom and many of them quite honestly could care less if it burnt to the ground... some infact would be quite happy to have it destroyed...... but Malag follows virtue and serves the Kingdom in the best way he knows how.... with his bow. And for a LONG time it served quite well and while I couldn't always guarantee that I'd get a drop at that event I got one often enough that it was fun and rewarding.... HOWEVER after the "change" to whatever where the item falls in your pack if you are "top damager" or whatever I haven't seen a drop since...... Infact 99% of those I know who also loved going to the events and used to get stuff haven't seen a thing since either.... Instead it would seem the items are all going to XShard Traders who sell things for more gold than anyone OUGHT to ever have in-game.... and I'm not rich.... I work hard for what I have I can't pay 450 to 900 million for an item and I'm NOT going to. But what I find more and more upsetting is that those who used to come to the events because they actually cared about the event and wanted to "defend the Kingdom" and such for the RP aspect and fun of the outing have been driven off by Greedy SOB's who come ..... plague everyone with their HORRIBLE attitudes...... pitch a fit if they "RP" talking part goes on for more than 5 min...... stand right on top of the EM's so no one can see WTF is going on...... Cast RC's and EV's every 2 min right on top of the EM's and NPC's..... make vulgar comments..... are always rude..... And THIS is who gets most the items.Sounds like you need to bring all 9 accounts to these events.
I can't comment much on EM events because I rarely attend them. What happened to the vending machines...they did away with those?
I don't RP either so I have a hard time comprehending your reluctance to alter your template.
Fight Fire with Fire.
It sounds if your vehemently against altering your Sampire Mace template, however I would consider swapping/soulstoning out some skill points and tossing in Archery. That way you could AI with a composite bow and see if that helps your cause.
I often swap out Resist, Parry or Anatomy in place of Archery depending on the Spawn or Boss. Running Melee and Ranged at the same time can be very effective.
I had tested it! and sorry, My Char is better condition than my friend. it is caused by Skill Template, Maybe.And if your Plate Armor had the Mage Armor mod it would be just like your friends leather armor.
You are wearing Plate Armor Non-Med.I had tested it! and sorry, My Char is better condition than my friend. it is caused by Skill Template, Maybe.
Still this stam damage is Huge, but for me, it is acceptable.
Later, I will test with Chainmail, and others.
OK, I will test it! (Noted)You are wearing Plate Armor Non-Med.
If you imbue it to where it has the Mage Armor Tag then it will act like leather. Tested
All my Armor has the Mage Armor Tag on them and I was taking Max Stamina loss.OK, I will test it! (Noted)
How much damage you got? Please tell me more detail Char configuration and situations. If you take a movie is better for checking.All my Armor has the Mage Armor Tag on them and I was taking Max Stamina loss.
138 Stamina and I was letting Spellbinders in New Haven cast spells on me and was taking Max Stamina damage everytime with every spell cast. A lot of times I resisted the spell and still took Stamina loss. LOLHow much damage you got? Please tell me more detail Char configuration and situations. If you take a movie is better for checking.
Current test is "How much stam damage increase".
Already I tested Original Metal Armor with Balron, Paragon-Balron, and Trogs. I feel no change...