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[Discussion] Butcher that doesnt work

SoulWeaver

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What is good about this knife for pvp or pvm to make the value so high?
 

cazador

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Hit fatigue forced you to walk when it procs..not sure of worth though
 

Cetric

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hit fatigue will make you walk if you hit them hard enough and enough times to actually stam them out... thats about it.. but in testing we weren't making that successful even with an ornate with lumberjacking and hit fatigue lol
 

xCatax

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What is good about this knife for pvp or pvm to make the value so high?
Does it means you dont like it ?

I saw in general chat guy asking for butcher with fatigue , add mana drain to this and yes ¡ we got 2 high drains mana and stamina plus its a butcher and the fc1 .

Well its ok if noone bids i enjoy it anyways :)
 

xCatax

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I know u can do this but ...........


Hit Mana Drain is an item property found on certain weapons. A successful hit with such a weapon reduces a target's mana by 20% of the damage dealt by the wielder who triggered the effect. The intensity ranges between 2% - 50%.

Hit Fatigue is an item property found on certain weapons. A successful hit with such a weapon reduces a target's stamina by 20% of the damage dealt by the wielder who triggered the effect. The intensity ranges between 2% - 50%.
 

Cetric

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Those properties aren't that good really. take stam for instance, say you hit yout target with that butcher knife for a base hit of 11 damage on average. the butcher knife has 50% hit fatigue.

So 50% of the successful hits wil cause the target to lose 2.2 stamina on those successful hits. Even with really high damage dealing weapons it was coming out worthless. We tested hit mana drain on a soul glaive and you had to really stare at the mana to notice it going down on some hits.

Maybe the gen chat buyer had a specific reason he was after a hit fatigue butchers knife, or maybe he mixed up fatigue and splintering.
 
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SoulWeaver

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Yeah I havent found any good use for Hit Fatigue yet at all, its good in theory but the results arent great.
 

Smoot

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Hit fatigue is very good in pvm ive found if it is a long fight (a couple hit kills its useless) hit mana drain is the same usefulness but for casters. like exodus encounter is much much easier with a mana drain weapon. The hard part is crafting your 100 mana leech bladed staff and getting enough of the hit effect on it, and more of a pain if you want an elemental weapon.

But a butcher knife you would never use in pvm of course. hit fatigue and drain are ok pvp mods, and someone very well might seek one on a non-craftable butcher knife, but yeah they really arent a game changer and are just a plus. so maybe the guy looking for one was looking to spend a couple hundred k on an item someone would otherwise ditch. just because someone is looking for something doesnt mean its worth alot of gold. or who knows, maybe some guy was looking to spend a billion gold on something thats not very good.

Now the fc1, that is something. would be cool for a nox pally if it had hit spell, but thats really an ancient obsolete template nowadays.

The knife does have a very nice look to it. nice find even if for display.
 
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Cetric

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We could meet in game and find out
i'm sure ill be on atl tonight, good luck =)

Whats your char names? and no im not transfering to some other dead shard if you dont play atlantic

I just had to ask. judging from other threads and this one, it seems you don't understand or know many pvp style game mechanics very well
 
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Cetric

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Hit fatigue is very good in pvm ive found if it is a long fight (a couple hit kills its useless) hit mana drain is the same usefulness but for casters. like exodus encounter is much much easier with a mana drain weapon. The hard part is crafting your 100 mana leech bladed staff and getting enough of the hit effect on it, and more of a pain if you want an elemental weapon.

But a butcher knife you would never use in pvm of course. hit fatigue and drain are ok pvp mods, and someone very well might seek one on a non-craftable butcher knife, but yeah they really arent a game changer and are just a plus. so maybe the guy looking for one was looking to spend a couple hundred k on an item someone would otherwise ditch. just because someone is looking for something doesnt mean its worth alot of gold. or who knows, maybe some guy was looking to spend a billion gold on something thats not very good.

Now the fc1, that is something. would be cool for a nox pally if it had hit spell, but thats really an ancient obsolete template nowadays.

The knife does have a very nice look to it. nice find even if for display.
I tried using a 50% mana drain weap on cora when it first came out, never ran her outa mana =/ dunno if it might work better on other casters.

I think we've hijacked this thread enough lol
 

cazador

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i'm sure ill be on atl tonight, good luck =)

Whats your char names? and no im not transfering to some other dead shard if you dont play atlantic

I just had to ask. judging from other threads and this one, it seems you don't understand or know many pvp style game mechanics very well
I have a Mage on chessy and ATL..ATL Mage suit just is a workable imbued crap suit we can copy to test should be fun maybe we can throw a wager on it too has to be a Mage though for I don't have any other templates suited up :( just came back few months ago still working on my suits

Ill be on around 7-7:30 PM est if you'd like to copy to test and throw a wager on it ATL or chessy gold whichever
 

Cetric

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I have a Mage on chessy and ATL..ATL Mage suit just is a workable imbued crap suit we can copy to test should be fun maybe we can throw a wager on it too has to be a Mage though for I don't have any other templates suited up :( just came back few months ago still working on my suits

Ill be on around 7-7:30 PM est if you'd like to copy to test and throw a wager on it ATL or chessy gold whichever
50mil Atlantic gold, pure mage (no mage weaps, etc) on test center.

Sound good to you?
 

Ron Silverbeard

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Guys, you dont use an item discussion in UO Traders Hall for PvP and Pk the thread here please, may i ask, ok, txs ;)
 
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xCatax

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Well exactly first I was trying to sell an item then they use this tread like an item discussion and i changed the tile to discussion , then they used to meet for pvp but i couldnt find any tile for this ......
 
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