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I would go for that, especially on the low pop shards, Malas is just a wasteland. The devs should face the fact that we no longer need the space for all the players coming in...
I'm not torn at all... keep the grey conformity and lag out of Malas.
IMO most of the point of owning a castle isn't about it's size.... or looks.... it's about it's lockdowns. If I could acquire a home that was smaller like 24x24 customizable with the same lockdowns as a castle or keep I'd do so.
I mean lets look a things in this way I'll try to break it down for you. Back when UO began everyone wore the basics. You had armor, either leather or metal... all the same metal no problems... all leather was leather ..... otherwise you wore cloth.
You had maybe 4 or 5 weapons, a mage had one spellbook... you needed only 8 reagents.
Then somewhere along the line some DEV got the bright idea that we should have different metals... So now a crafter had to add in new metals, add 8 more lockdowns no problem. Then stone came mining up stone and adding more items.
Well then AoS came along and the item nightmare began... starting with 3 new leathers, BODs came along adding literally thousands of items to the storage woes of the lands. Then you add all the new stealables, Doom and Artifacts, 100's of new craftables,....... Then ML, now you have ML ingredients, all new armors, more craftables, more loot... and in all that some sick Genius on the DEV team gives us Recipes! Yet more storage needed! . SE more craftables, more stealables more loot, more artifacts... Then we reached rather a plateau.... but lets not forget that all this time we are getting gifts, gifts for Christmas, the Anniversary, Valentines, and stuff for Halloween!....
Stuff, stuffing adding more and more stuff piling up something needs to be done...
And then some DEV gets the bright idea we need yet another crafting skill and on dawns SA with Imbuing adding over 100 new things you have to collect and store to craft... new armor new weapons for a whole new race....
And if that weren't enough to add to our already stressed storage they give us High Seas! Adding dozens of new fish, bait, barnacle covered stuff and more items than ever.....
And they wonder WHY we are so demanding about space????
No one who even thinks about crafting could make life out of a 7x7 plot anymore. You'd need to have 39 characters with bank space..... just for the crap needed to craft anymore.
Not even talking about what to do with all the lovely non-stacking gifts they give us year after year.
I mean lets look a things in this way I'll try to break it down for you. Back when UO began everyone wore the basics. You had armor, either leather or metal... all the same metal no problems... all leather was leather ..... otherwise you wore cloth.
You had maybe 4 or 5 weapons, a mage had one spellbook... you needed only 8 reagents.
Then somewhere along the line some DEV got the bright idea that we should have different metals... So now a crafter had to add in new metals, add 8 more lockdowns no problem. Then stone came mining up stone and adding more items.
Well then AoS came along and the item nightmare began... starting with 3 new leathers, BODs came along adding literally thousands of items to the storage woes of the lands. Then you add all the new stealables, Doom and Artifacts, 100's of new craftables,....... Then ML, now you have ML ingredients, all new armors, more craftables, more loot... and in all that some sick Genius on the DEV team gives us Recipes! Yet more storage needed! . SE more craftables, more stealables more loot, more artifacts... Then we reached rather a plateau.... but lets not forget that all this time we are getting gifts, gifts for Christmas, the Anniversary, Valentines, and stuff for Halloween!....
Stuff, stuffing adding more and more stuff piling up something needs to be done...
And then some DEV gets the bright idea we need yet another crafting skill and on dawns SA with Imbuing adding over 100 new things you have to collect and store to craft... new armor new weapons for a whole new race....
And if that weren't enough to add to our already stressed storage they give us High Seas! Adding dozens of new fish, bait, barnacle covered stuff and more items than ever.....
And they wonder WHY we are so demanding about space????
No one who even thinks about crafting could make life out of a 7x7 plot anymore. You'd need to have 39 characters with bank space..... just for the crap needed to craft anymore.
Not even talking about what to do with all the lovely non-stacking gifts they give us year after year.
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I have castles, I place and sell castles, both would crash in price if it happened negatively effecting me. Even then I think they should do it because Malas on my server is extremely empty and people who've stuck with UO this long deserve a bone thrown to em. Every spot in Malas used to be taken, I could see a reason for the rule then, population. Now, not so much.
That's what the trash barrel is for.
All four of my crafters work quite happily out of two secures. (OK, three - the cook insists on keeping her stuff upstairs in the kitchen.)
It's not the Dev's fault that some people are hoarders or OCD.
Your preaching to the choir kiddo I have said this for years......
Its a good idea to change housing rules in malas, - but i think castles should be left for trammel /fell. But allowing keeps in malas would do a lot.
Many wants castles, - and they should be desired. Opening for castles will ruin that feauture for many - but allowing keeps in malas would be a good direction to go in my opinion.
Many wants castles, - and they should be desired. Opening for castles will ruin that feauture for many - but allowing keeps in malas would be a good direction to go in my opinion.
I have all the castles I need (not to say, more than I need), but I agree, that something should be done with Malas on most shards (and with the spare green acres on ATL).
Maybe allow a keep size custom plot only in certain areas in Malas. Increase mandatory distance to next building for these plots. Or allow placing the infamous second house per account on another shard only in Malas.
Maybe allow a keep size custom plot only in certain areas in Malas. Increase mandatory distance to next building for these plots. Or allow placing the infamous second house per account on another shard only in Malas.
You know the best Idea I EVER heard was to allow everyone the ability to place as many homes as they wanted but limit them to 32x32 ....... so you can place one castle or 2 16x16's or any combination of plots to get to 32x32 but everyone had a limit of the 32x32. So you could have an 18x18 on one shard and a 14x14 on another shard or a 7x7 on two shards. Or you could have a keep with a 7x7 out front.....
hallelujah hallelujah hallelujah
(sorry)
For all you who sit there and say NO!!! to castles in malas try roaming other shards and see for your self the wide open spaces there are... outside Atlantic and a very very small handfull of shards in the asian sector those malas areas are so barren and unused that of what population there is on them would hardly dent the space....
(Here is an idea that might fly with the boss lady.. preplaced castles and keeps you can walk up and bid on like was done in Mag. With dev placement the space could be utilized without players blowing a fuse as some poor smuck who dropped his 1 space too far over for their placement... just a thought mind u)
Now if Mesanna and her wisdom thought it through and opened back accounts to perhaps 2 per account in the houseing bit... (Pipe Dream)
You see its all well and good for Seige to open the flood gate of houseing but for those who dont wish to go or dont need one there..... a second house in a different shard is quite nice.
Speaking for myself and others who were able to have this it makes for a more happier camper to know I am not pegioned to one shard and can have many friends and know I can play without the worrie of where am i gunna sleep and store my stuff.
Banks go only sooo far.
(Here is an idea that might fly with the boss lady.. preplaced castles and keeps you can walk up and bid on like was done in Mag. With dev placement the space could be utilized without players blowing a fuse as some poor smuck who dropped his 1 space too far over for their placement... just a thought mind u)
Now if Mesanna and her wisdom thought it through and opened back accounts to perhaps 2 per account in the houseing bit... (Pipe Dream)
You see its all well and good for Seige to open the flood gate of houseing but for those who dont wish to go or dont need one there..... a second house in a different shard is quite nice.
Speaking for myself and others who were able to have this it makes for a more happier camper to know I am not pegioned to one shard and can have many friends and know I can play without the worrie of where am i gunna sleep and store my stuff.
Banks go only sooo far.
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Got to agree. Malas is already ugly enough.
Make it a vet reward then....have to have an account for X number of years before you can place a castle or keep in Malas
At least that way it is a reward for someone who has played long enough and built some wealth but can't find a space in tram or even fel
At least that way it is a reward for someone who has played long enough and built some wealth but can't find a space in tram or even fel
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Malas is not that large and there aren't that many large flat spaces... it would take maybe two or three dozen castles to fill it to the brim with grim grey conformity and lag. No thank you.
Mesanna has on occasion placed castles on malas to give to players who lost it all due to grave errors in the game, so I can not see who not to have the Dev place castles and keeps "PRE PLACED" and with a stone in front to max the space and put them up forsale to the highest bidders same as Mag was done.
This would do a 2 fold bit, the gold sink alone would go along way to drain the building gold in reserves and open malas to the placement.
Not just castles DerekL but keeps.
OK if your sooo sure only a "few" But I have seen in the snow areas and desert sand hidden spots a keep would go and in a few a castle... did you add in those?
Look, I can see it being a big problem if we had that many players per shard to eat up the land...
I can take you on Origin to so many castle placements in fel and tram.
That is just the tip fo the iceberg that is the growing emptyness that is UO. Ask any Atlantic player who is squeezed into a small home cause there is not enough room for a bigger house. Thanks to a heavy campaigne to keep Atlantic shard stuffed many others have shrank to a pitance not cause players wanted to leave.. had they had one of the old houseing systems pre AoS... even 1 per shard I think most players who now reside on Atlantic would return to their home shards to play on the ocassion.
It's not hat we are loosing that many people ... on the contrary.. Most are moving around, consolidating, and upgrading.
This would do a 2 fold bit, the gold sink alone would go along way to drain the building gold in reserves and open malas to the placement.
Not just castles DerekL but keeps.
OK if your sooo sure only a "few" But I have seen in the snow areas and desert sand hidden spots a keep would go and in a few a castle... did you add in those?
Look, I can see it being a big problem if we had that many players per shard to eat up the land...
I can take you on Origin to so many castle placements in fel and tram.
That is just the tip fo the iceberg that is the growing emptyness that is UO. Ask any Atlantic player who is squeezed into a small home cause there is not enough room for a bigger house. Thanks to a heavy campaigne to keep Atlantic shard stuffed many others have shrank to a pitance not cause players wanted to leave.. had they had one of the old houseing systems pre AoS... even 1 per shard I think most players who now reside on Atlantic would return to their home shards to play on the ocassion.
It's not hat we are loosing that many people ... on the contrary.. Most are moving around, consolidating, and upgrading.
tHE DEVS NEED TO DO IT..ON EUROPA MALAS IS MOSTLY DESOLATE.........would breathe a little love and life into malas for sure
And the game makers would get extra revenue too...as a lot of players would reopen accounts to place blockers etc etc as the rush for castle space ensued
Really is a no brainer for the devs and for EA....if they want some extra double subs!!!
And the game makers would get extra revenue too...as a lot of players would reopen accounts to place blockers etc etc as the rush for castle space ensued
Really is a no brainer for the devs and for EA....if they want some extra double subs!!!