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Anyone kill Exodus yet?

kelmo

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I approve of every step Mythic takes to make this a multi player game.
 

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I approve of every step Mythic takes to make this a multi player game.
How many multi-player groups are doing Doom, ML, Cora, etc etc. and NOW andros?

I like multi-player initiatives as much as the next guy but they should be BENEFITS, not mandates. Benefits like a better chance at individual loot for every additional person (loot that auto-spawns in your backpack -- ie: change things like parox dragon that spawns on corpse)
 

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We did it last night with a group of 8... 2 got scrolls - one got the band-aid enhancer and one got the alchemy enhancer. I imagine the drop rate will slowly decrease over time as usual.
Were you guys partied all the way through or did you drop party at any time before his death?
 

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It's especially amusing to see someone aggressively lecture people about not understanding what an MMO is, who then applies absolutely no long term analysis, or even shows any awareness of wider player psychology, especially within the very game being played, which is going to define how easy or accessible content is over time; thus failing to treat other people with any real independent identity at all, except in that they make him feel good right now. And yes, there's plenty of people helping each other out on Drachenfels I'm sure; There usually is for any event within the first 24 hours. A wise man however would then calculate whether the event is going to be able to be hosted when people turn against it, either through getting enough scrolls for themselves, or tastes and fashion change and the behaviour of groups dictates away from it... In an MMO with a huge player base, you'd then apply mitigating values to the odds of individual keys dropping as others will turn up on the market, assuming people don't keep duplicates in-house... and then subtract from that the practical limitations of key with 6 days of in game existence... You know, actually think about wider issues, and understand that when the initial thrill wears off, people who play unsociable hours or don't treat Ultima Online like WoW and it's scheduled raids, are simply not going to have access to an entire party all with timed keys ready when they are able to go fight the instance.

Which is going to be the majority of players of Ultima Online, because that's how Ultima Online has always been designed to play and how most people experience it. Pirate hunting for Ork Ship Parts (especially under the old saltpetre regime). Fishing quests and fish sharing. Scelestis books for Queen Zhah... Honestly, it takes a staggering level of self obsession to be completely unaware of the objective reality of what happened to all the large grinding quests with assumed reward swapping in Ultima Online recently, just because you're having fun right now. How many guilds host Peerless hunts for the public to go and fight on? And those only need one person to have the keys. To think Exodus will remain even as popular as those, when the main reward is a scroll and you can't get people to go to Felucca for scrolls which doesn't need keys, or even to schedule an evening when you might have them and they haven't all expired yet is just laughable...

MAKE IT SO ONLY ONE PERSON NEEDS THE KEYS LIKE EVERY OTHER PEERLESS.
You'll still need a party, but now it's something one person can put the time in and give an adventure to the community, rather than dividing them and frustrating them and committing them to the souless grind that is MMO "content" elsewhere and they stay here to escape.

*Yawns*
 

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We were 8 ppl on Europa, guild and a couple of guests, we always have guests. We collected keys now and then during the day by hunting, crafted some and traded with eachother or gave to eachother.
The boss was a walk in the park. Four of us were mystics the rest mages so tanking with summons and healing was no prob. Not one death robe.
Loot was very nice, 4 drops, armour and scroll and tali, plus some good jewels and armour Shame style on the corpse.

We had a good hunt and the loot made the key hunting worth it. Crafting the Rite uses 5 taint so out of the question. Therefore we have to stick to hunting keys most likely. Atleast if it doesnt show the rite spawns on a certain monster and it didnt look like it. This is something we will do quite often I bet. Taking guests that turns up with some keys .
 

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when the main reward is a scroll
Huh? Sorry, the scroll is worthless to me and many other PVM-players. The main reward is the Bracers - nothing else!
 

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Huh? Sorry, the scroll is worthless to me and many other PVM-players. The main reward is the Bracers - nothing else!
Obviously the scroll is the drop that will appeal to the majority of players. If you can't figure out what a PvM character of any template could possibly do with the scroll, you aren't thinking very hard.

Back on topic, does anyone have any info on wether Exodus has any slayer vulnerability? Or even what his weakest resist is? What are his special moves?
 

Eärendil

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Obviously the scroll is the drop that will appeal to the majority of players. If you can't figure out what a PvM character of any template could possibly do with the scroll, you aren't thinking very hard.
Oh boy, don´t speak as if you were in the possession of all wisdom of this world... There are perfect PVM-players, people much better than me and you who say: Nice to have, but not absolutely neccessary... You shouldn´t doubt my "thinking" as I don´t doubt yours... And there is no "obviously" in these things. How do you know that? I met more poeple demanding the bracers thant the scroll... You will see that the bracers will sell for much more millions than the scrolls...

But whatever, you seem to be much wiser and better informed than me -and your "thinking" is much more elaborate, isn´t it?

What a lovely person...
 

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Back on topic, does anyone have any info on wether Exodus has any slayer vulnerability? Or even what his weakest resist is? What are his special moves?
Nope, no one has that information yet. I'd be delighted to have you provide that for us.
 

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I have been in there now 7 times and I didn't die the last 2 times(very lucky) the best group to kill him seems to be 2-4 greater dragons to tank and then everyone else deals damage from a distance(archers/throwers/mages). I talked to two sampires and they told me the biggest prob was as they ran up the "vortexes" drained all their mana and he has an area effect doing continuous damage. so they couldn't do special attacks. I was also in a group that fielded him in and that worked but if he gets loose and starts running everyone dies.
 

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Oh boy, don´t speak as if you were in the possession of all wisdom of this world... There are perfect PVM-players, people much better than me and you who say: Nice to have, but not absolutely neccessary... You shouldn´t doubt my "thinking" as I don´t doubt yours... And there is no "obviously" in these things. How do you know that? I met more poeple demanding the bracers thant the scroll... You will see that the bracers will sell for much more millions than the scrolls...

But whatever, you seem to be much wiser and better informed than me -and your "thinking" is much more elaborate, isn´t it?

What a lovely person...
IMHO the bracers are useless, they look like they are only any good for a parry mage, but wait! they are no use for a parry mage either as the fire ball does not go off if your wearing a shield. So i guess the bracers are totally useless.
 

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I have been in there now 7 times and I didn't die the last 2 times(very lucky) the best group to kill him seems to be 2-4 greater dragons to tank and then everyone else deals damage from a distance(archers/throwers/mages). I talked to two sampires and they told me the biggest prob was as they ran up the "vortexes" drained all their mana and he has an area effect doing continuous damage. so they couldn't do special attacks. I was also in a group that fielded him in and that worked but if he gets loose and starts running everyone dies.

We did him last night twice with 2 greater dragons(both tamer mages) and one mystic mage

Easy. We got 3 scrolls and 1 pair of bracers(which i binned) from 2 runs at it
 

Petra Fyde

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theres no way you and a mate will get his done with just 2-3 of you.

Why do the Devs think its cool to put an item that everyone will need (+5 scroll) into an encounter thats just not do-able with a few people
I would venture to guess that as people become more familiar with it, less people will become possible.
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We did him last night twice with 2 greater dragons(both tamer mages) and one mystic mage

Easy. We got 3 scrolls and 1 pair of bracers(which i binned) from 2 runs at it
Score 1 for Petra? ;):thumbsup:
 
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Were you guys partied all the way through or did you drop party at any time before his death?
We kept the party through to the end. The main rewards drop in your backpack so we didn't really see a need to drop party and instance the corpse.
 
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Obviously the scroll is the drop that will appeal to the majority of players. If you can't figure out what a PvM character of any template could possibly do with the scroll, you aren't thinking very hard.

Back on topic, does anyone have any info on wether Exodus has any slayer vulnerability? Or even what his weakest resist is? What are his special moves?
I forgot to check slayers on this version of Exodus - but in the original EM Event version - he was Demon slayer.

As to the weakest resist - you can not animal lore it since it is part mechanical (clockwork exodus). From testing spells - twice he seemed weakest to fire, once to energy and a couple of times I could not tell what was weakest (Maybe cold or poison since my Mage does not do those well).
 

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Oh boy, don´t speak as if you were in the possession of all wisdom of this world... There are perfect PVM-players, people much better than me and you who say: Nice to have, but not absolutely neccessary... You shouldn´t doubt my "thinking" as I don´t doubt yours... And there is no "obviously" in these things. How do you know that? I met more poeple demanding the bracers thant the scroll... You will see that the bracers will sell for much more millions than the scrolls...

But whatever, you seem to be much wiser and better informed than me -and your "thinking" is much more elaborate, isn´t it?

What a lovely person...
It's not wisdom, sir. It's common sense and simple observation. You can "meet people" all day long but +5 stats is always going to appeal to a wider range of templates than those silly gimmicky bracers. I'm not doubting your so-called thinking, you're just wrong.
 

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I was just citing you... And I am still thinking that it depends on perspective whether one is right or wrong... "Sir"
Bud we can play word games all day long, it's not gonna change fact. Perspective does not alter facts. The price for the items at this point is equally irrelevant as at the start of a drop set the more rare drops will get a larger price. In a month when the handful of players who wanted bracers have them, there will still be players lining up to get scrolls. It's not a matter of perspective.

Funny how people think that being "entitled" to their opinion mistake it for being entitled to their own reality.
 

Eärendil

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"Bud", there is no such SINGLE reality everybody can rely on. Perspective ALWAYS matter. And I could accept your point, if you weren´t so damn arrogant in your tone...

...and this is my last statement to this issue, we are slightly going off-topic. :gee:
 
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Viper09

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"Bud", there is no such SINGLE reality everybody can rely on. Perspective ALWAYS matter. And I could accept your point, if you weren´t so damn arrogant in your tone...

...and this is my last statement to this issue, we are slightly going off-topic. :gee:
Relativism for the win :thumbup1:
 

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Back on topic, does anyone have any info on wether Exodus has any slayer vulnerability? Or even what his weakest resist is? What are his special moves?
We have defeated him Six times now and we used Throwers (100% Cold Weapons) and Mystic Mages (Healers) and no Dragons. My suggestion is to outfit your characters with all the High end Cursed Armor with MR, HR and HPI since the boss does not seem to loot you when you die so why not use Godly armor to take down a Godly creature? :)

 

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Yea I can confirm hes doable with only 3 poeple ( bard priority tho ) then you just sit there , easier than slasher in my opinion .... poeple will stop doing Exodus once they gathered their pixels , and scroll will sell out for 5m soon , then its gonna be useless area to go pretty soon

:gun: Uh what bard priority was there he is NOT bardable, Disco, or Peace???? please explain.
 

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Well I got into the fight last night, and although I'd heard claims of superior AI, at least with the set up we had (4 tamers, 1 Mystic, 1 thrower and something else that wasn't a bard) all Exodus did was sit there and tank damage until he died; one person who'd done it many times already knew how to lure Exodus over to the entrance point so I never even saw the "lava you have to cross" that someone on Stratics had mentioned, because we didn't have too. The result was a fight where everyone just sat there throwing heals onto the dragons, and occasionally moved two squares across to shuffle out of his AoE. Extremely boring, but efficient. And then 4 of 7 got items (scroll, bracers, leggings, I forget what but none to me, I looted all the gold with a bag of sending instead, and 3 items that unravelled to a relic)...

After a good few hours grinding the keys over the last week, and still having to share to get in as the Ritual didn't drop, for an event which would only be fun if an item drops and triggers acquisition emotional responses, but possibly wont? Yeah, people just aren't going to do a double grind for that; if the keys have a consistent market for them, they'll probably just do the first part and then spend the gold on the reward they're after.... or possibly not bother at all and continue to hunt as they've always done to raise the gold, and skip the content entirely.

Incidentally, I would have been happy with Dupre's Sword too, simply for the name, to go with the other Ultima Companions items... it's stats are irrelevant to me. Someone was after the Alchemical for their PvP suit for the opposite reason though. As Petra and others have pointed out, people's reasons and values will differ. But apart from the artwork however (which remains fantastic) it doesn't offer anything new in experience, it's just wailing on inflated hit points again until they go to zero, so the responses from the public aren't going to be new either... You're just not going to see a response curve to this over time any different to the way the Awakening grinds were taken up this year, or any of the others from years past.

The one addition that did add something new to gameplay however, the Void Pool, still gets a positive emotional response when ever I hear it mentioned; and the shard and personal high scores allowed it to be engaging even though the loot rewards did not. And Exodus could be so easily tweaked to something new too; why not have not one but multiple Exodus' being created in a factory inside Ver Lor Reg? And instead of getting in via the keys, you use the daggers or rituals to corrupt the circuitry of some of them whilst there, the robes allow you to disguise and enter parts of the factory without Exodus Minions flagging to you ("oh it's just another of our mage mates with the same robe from the dungeon, let him pass") and power down parts of the defence, and ultimately you get them to fight amongst themselves (two daggers stabbed into a control panel are now two joysticks!), destroy the factory and it's staff, and eventually leave just enough of one Exodus for the party to finish off... barding on a grand scale... gigantic Rock 'Em Sock 'Em Exodus? That way the keys are tied to roles, and give new content, rather than being a gateway to lock you out of getting in and being bored.
 
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Yea I can confirm hes doable with only 3 poeple ( bard priority tho ) then you just sit there , easier than slasher in my opinion .... poeple will stop doing Exodus once they gathered their pixels , and scroll will sell out for 5m soon , then its gonna be useless area to go pretty soon
With a bard with peacemaking masteries and a sampire tanking exodus. Bard has archery and spellweaving with alot of lower attack/def on his bow/mace n shield. My Sampire has Mana leech max, lower attack, stam leech damage increase and well I have life leech but tis useless on Exodus so I would suggest Hit lighting or something for more Dps. Also I honored Exodus, with enemy of one and consecrate and lighting strike. My bard finish Exodus when its near death with Word of Death thats about it , of course I use 2 account but I can solo it takes about 1 hour if I dont die. If there was a second bard with provocation masteries it would take me around 30 minutes...
 

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Yesterday we took 2 full groups several times to Exodus. He had no chance against us but we all had a great time killing him! :)
 

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Shrines become the DMV waiting rooms for new boss. While group I was with was waiting (2nd run I've had a chance to go on in that small window prime time rush). One the members bounced around the other non fel shrines. Three other groups twittling thumbs. So for a few hours game has become who can target the shrine that split second to get the next run. Can you say Mel? Back to mining & BODs with what little gaming time I have. I'll catch the community hunt days set for Exodus in a few months for some sloppy seconds fun. Sure I am crying. Could use this information exchange source to point out the problems and come up with ingenious fixes. If they new how their world turned, we spend more our online time in game and not here. Instead I will keep packing snowballs and sticking them in UOHell to feel that warm constant.

Time for RL grind. And it is time a UO veteran won the powerball. Wonder if 425 million is enough to by UO and 2 gaming systems set up in the dark basement corner of my employees workplace. There will be signed understanding when the boss gets a WTF moment. He will rise from the darkness with a paintball gun and go "postal" "classroom" or "theater". Whatever the current term is. And each reload will happen after a failed answer to "why am I in the light without my mug and pipe?"
 

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Shrines become the DMV waiting rooms for new boss. So for a few hours game has become who can target the shrine that split second to get the next run.
Yeah it's quite annoying. At least when the peerles were first introduced there were several to do and duplicates of Mel and Lord P.

But my concern after doing Exodus about 20 times this week is that once the novelty wears off and people become less interested it's going to be almost impossible for the average player to defeat the boss and get their +5 scrolls. Getting your own keys, everyone else having keys, waiting to get in, going through the song and dance of putting the robe on/arming dagger (have to convert to garg sometimes)/stabbing book after using the rite, fighting a boss that can't be discorded or leeched and does about 5 different things to interupt spellcasting & band aids use, then finally getting nothing most of the time.

Was this really what they meant by "readily available" when refering to everyone getting their +5 scrolls?
 

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I'll share.

Done it approx 20 times since it came out. Got 1 scroll, 1 bracer and 1 sword.

Nowhere worth the 40+ hours I spent collecting keys, waiting to get in and fighting the boss.
Asclepius (Replica) Gargoyle version and Hygiea's Amulet (Replica).

I only joined 2 rounds and let others enjoy more rounds with the keys we collected during the week.
TY and they imply that stuff is dropping left and right. Sure was a mass of +5 Stat Scrolls you guys got. LOL
 

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Participated in 8 fights, got 2 scrolls, 1 asclepius, 1 amulet, 1 garg bracers, 1 garg sword (6 out of 8)... I am really happy!
 

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2 trips and one scroll. Spent nearly two hours trying to get another dagger last night for another go. Got a robe. Thinking it will be faster to mine BR so bring on the picks and paragon rare ore elementals. As long as I don't have to make the Taint item, looks like crafting better then farming, it ia about time management.
 

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5 rounds with lots of other people . Got legs, bracers, sword and scroll . The others got lots of drops as well. One of us got 3 scrolls on 3 rounds yesterday.
 
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