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Duel Clienting at Despise(Andros)

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Merus

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But you and i both know thats not whats going on down there!
I have actually done it almost exactly like that... I used a sampire and my bard running a bard song. Worked just fine. I am not saying that using the ledge isn't easier, however now we are talking about solo hunting Andros which does not impact anyone else's chance for a drop. What do I care how someone else solos Andros when I am not there? If 4 different people end up down at Andros and all of them have Archers are you suggesting they shouldn't be able to use the ledge?
 

Winker

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I say it would be better to have Andors bound to the Island, so he could not cross the bridge then you can take as many accounts as you like down.
 
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Merus

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I say it would be better to have Andors bound to the Island, so he could not cross the bridge
Wouldn't you end up with the same issue... Range pets standing beyond his bound area shooting him?
 

Ludes

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But you have to look at it this way... If your friend comes over to your house and sits in your other room.. runs one of YOUR accounts.. but on your computer with your wireless.. and he sits on the ledge while you do your thing.. is that illegal? Look at it that way and you'll see this can't be outlawed.
 

Viper09

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Ok, just so I'm on the same page here. This thread is really about people using the terrain to their advantage and not about duel clienting?

Dueling clienting is legal, this was already clarified a while ago. There are no specific conditions that make an exception to this as long as there are no exploits or third-party programs involved.
 
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Picus at the office

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I do this all the time. Account A is a tank, account b is a damaging dexxer and account c is a disco bard. I attack with A and B while running the provo bard spells with C and also run disco. Once the target is disco'd I swap back to my tank and AI. Account B is a macer and is only double clicking the target once, while reducing the stamina of the target.

I could do the same in Despise as I have stones with archery and what on earth would be wrong with that? I double clicked once, clearly am not AFK, running nothing and are farming what ever I please.
 

CovenantX

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The reason I ask, is that so many people are now running 2 clients try to double there chance of getting the artefact to drop to them instead of anyone else.
More than one person can get a drop from the boss-mobs in both Despise & Covetous.

The same cannot be said for many/any other bosses in the game currently which is the problem.
 

Ludes

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Ok, just so I'm on the same page here. This thread is really about people using the terrain to their advantage and not about duel clienting?

Dueling clienting is legal, this was already clarified a while ago. There are no specific conditions that make an exception to this as long as there are no exploits or third-party programs involved.
Looks like this is the OP's main complaint.. terrain.

On that note.. my kettle whistles, I'm gonna do a quick shot.. get some tea and leave..
 

Goodmann

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Ok so these days its legal to run two clients at once, although its not a supported activity by EA support.

What I want clarification on is if running two clients at Despise champ(Andros) is ok? The reason I ask, is that so many people are now running 2 clients try to double there chance of getting the artefact to drop to them instead of anyone else. I am constantly paging a GM on people running two clients down there and nothing is being done about it. It just cant be fair/legal for this to be going on and no one seams to be able or care enough to stop it.

If it is illegal how the hell do we get a GM to turn up within 30 mins and do something about it? On a good day you wont see a GM for 2 hours after you make a report and on a Bad day it can take 8 hours for someone to turn up.

Its getting to the stage, where I am going to have to do the same to even compete down there. This should be stopped now or we should be told its ok to duel client and just get on with it.
Here is a tissue :sad2: ! Running 2 clients is legal. Do they do not support it but it is LEGAL. If you want to run 2 clients go ahead nothing is stopping you but your wallet. UO lives for people to have multiple account otherwise it would cut down the subs to about 1/4 of what it is. I personally have about 10 active accounts and if I could not duel client I would cut them down to 1-2 so there goes 8 subs and im sure most everyone has a min of 2 accounts. So keep paging like a little second grade girl and waste your time and the GM's..............
 
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Woodsman

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But technically speaking its still duel clienting and you can't be at both computers at the same time and not be afk on another so it is breaking the tos really and wheather they pay for the accounts or not makes no odds to me,maybe there is a time and a place for duel clienting but not at the expense of others when its a team activity. AMEN
The problem is you can't determine where the line is crossed. Back in better days, it was not uncommon to get together with friends once every week or two and play UO. Being in the same room with 4-5 other people, you can do some amazing stuff over the span of a few hours and have a type of coordination you can't get over Ventrillo or whatever people are using. Even 2-3 people in the same room together can do quite a bit.

If a GM looks at such a group, they will see only one IP since we are all behind a single router, but they could see the different accounts and that they are tied to different people. I still go over to a friend's house or he comes over to mine, and we play together, and we show the exact same IP to the outside world, but two different accounts.

However what if somebody is borrowing an account or what if I play with my spouse or kid? More than a few UO players here play with their significant others or children, and a GM looking at that will most likely see multiple accounts tied to one person, but that's still legitimate gameplay.

And then there is another issue - if you have multiple accounts running in a VM (virtual machine) on the same computer, which I have done quite a bit in the past when shuffling things between accounts or when I found myself in a dead area on a shard and needed a healer or some other form of backup. Both VMs are on the screens, I see everything that is happening right in front of me.

I am in fact at both "computers" at the same time since there is only one computer. I am not afk since there is only one keyboard/mouse, at least no more so than when I am afk when I flip over to a web browser to look something up.

In the end, a GM cannot tell whether I am a person playing 2-3 accounts at the same time, or whether there are 2-3 people playing 2-3 of my accounts at my house.
 

Mandrake of DF

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Gorbs, the majority have a vested interest me thinks. They know whats being said and the choose not to directly talk about it
I dont see where you wanna drag this to the end. Now you hint about other things, as it not legal. All the prolbems you proposed, are said are legal. Its according to the TOS and TOC legal. It is no AFK play here - its just a simple question to do multiple accounts same time.

Yes, it might happend so that despise are able to do so...still u have to use same time to train up pets - and in the end u spend the same amount of time as other players, taking as big risk as they do. Its nothing different.

I dont really see where you wanna drag this discussion any more, or are you just arguing cuz u dont have anything better to do?

If you want to drag it into 3rd party discussion again, - i call a mod to close this.

Live with it....its the game - and its paid for.
 

Petra Fyde

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This thread is going around in circles.
In the end the thing that counts is, whether there are two people controlling 2 characters or 1 person controlling 2 characters they are not preventing a third person who might be there from getting an artifact.
 
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