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Listen, i will do that!
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We shallst not wakeup the Kelmo again...
The EM's wouldnt have access to Uo.com, hence wouldnt be able to update things themselves nor be able to make changes if adjustments need to be made. It would have to be purely up to a Developer to constantly get a feed of information from each EM, and considering EM's operate beyond times of when a Dev is in the office....
Each EM has a uoem site so they can 1. Post their events / Have the ability to alter if needs arise 2. Have a place with contact information readily available 3. Places to archive past events/history and 4. Have a place to post their shard specific Fiction which goes along with the events.
Post fiction that is only shard specific would just confuse people.
The main UO site should be global events, and global fiction only.
I DO agree with everyone tho, that the coronation = Global and should have been on uo.com such as the Exodus event was. But some people acted like the information was NOWHERE to be found.
Like I added in my post, you want them to use stratics yet its really only Legends & Pacific that dont. So either email your EM's are take the job upon yourself.Listen, i will do that!
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We shallst not wakeup the Kelmo again...
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Promathia, were you on LA when at one of the events' wrap-up in the Nujelm castle library when EM Augustus took a vote, and most of the people voted for events to be on Sunday, not Saturday, and Augustus started altering his schedule to accomodate? I sure was.....
Yes, but hes really only had 1 event thats been meant for a Sunday. Perhaps we should wait to see how it plays out?
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They can setup UO.com to handle RSS feeds from the EM websites, and have it one page linked from the front page of UO.com with a button. Stratics. UO Forums, Ultima Codex all do this. It's not hard at all and UO.com's software supports it.
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This post does make some sense.. My Sherry the Mouse statue is often days behind on Catskills..
I have to hit Stratics Uhall.. and Stratics Catskills.. and Stratics Catskills EM forum to keep up with everything.. not to mention the updates I get off ICQ when someone hears something in Gen Chat.. wouldn't be so bad to get this info all in one area..
But I roleplay so I see it as hitting a lot of bars in one night to see what I "hear"..
Lady Kyra hates it but I tell her it's all in the "networking".. thats how I find the IDOC's and EM Events.. and champ hunts that made us rich.(so to speak)..
Just a side effect I come home drunk every night...
I have to hit Stratics Uhall.. and Stratics Catskills.. and Stratics Catskills EM forum to keep up with everything.. not to mention the updates I get off ICQ when someone hears something in Gen Chat.. wouldn't be so bad to get this info all in one area..
But I roleplay so I see it as hitting a lot of bars in one night to see what I "hear"..
Lady Kyra hates it but I tell her it's all in the "networking".. thats how I find the IDOC's and EM Events.. and champ hunts that made us rich.(so to speak)..
Just a side effect I come home drunk every night...
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Now that is a positive suggestion that perhaps can be worked with. I dunno if it is possible as I am not very smart. I am sure a lot of smarter people can figure this out. My job is to ask you to respectful of one another while discussing it. *hides goon squad club* Have a pleasant day.
There is UOEMEvents (UOEMEvents) on Twitter, maintained by three different fan sites' volunteers, announced here in stratics before (Petra was one of the first followers), as well as uoguide. The feed is offered to the devs before but they didn't want it. It is not really popular, so I'm not sure if there is a real need for it. Nevertheless, you can contact if you want to use the feed to announce your shard's events.
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Major/global events should be announced on the patch screen as you launch UO, tbh. Or as an actual message you receive as you login to the shard itself. It really wouldn't take much effort to have "[Next Event]: Blackthorn's Coronation - 8th October @ 7:00pm" login message for each shard that shows details of the next upcoming event to all players.
You shouldn't really need to rely on any external sources to know what's going on.
You shouldn't really need to rely on any external sources to know what's going on.
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That is a good suggestion. I dont think it should be on the main page (So not to confuse fictions), but added it on another page would be good.
Of course, its not hard at all to check the sites yourself either
Um...thats why they have town criers.
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Yeh, which are easy to miss for some people and sometimes aren't updated. If it were a login message it'd be seen by everyone. It would also require a lot more diligence on the part of the EM team to actually keep them up to date on their respective shards. The in-game methods of information dissemination should actually be prioritized over external sites which isn't the case right now.
External announcements to compliment information flow is fine, but there needs to be a global policy here which is adhered to by all event staff to ensure a uniform, in-game method is utilized to ensure timely information is available within the game to everyone.
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If it were a patch message it would be way too confusing with 25+ shards all intermixed along with other info like patch/publish notes. I really don't think that's the answer. Also - I am not so sure I want the events on Atlantic heavily advertised... they get so crowded already with folk from all shards attending...
So the Coronation was actually held already on Drachenfels ??
If so, then why is UO.COM website listing Drachenfels as having the Coronation on :
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What.......
Reading comprehension man
The coronation was ALWAYS scheduled for 10-10. The event that was delayed was not the coronation.
Actually, it's not that hard to set it up so an EM can post stuff to the website and you don't need server or even access to the code. It's quite easy to set up, in the scheme of things. And if I remember right, all events have to be approved through Mesanna to start with, so, there should already be a record of it, there wouldn't need to be a constant feed of information.
UOEM is not an official site and should not be used as such. Basically, if the individual who owns it decided to take it down, it's gone and there is nothing EA can do about it. EVERYTHING official should be done through UO.com. And really, that is the only way it makes sense.
I disagree about the confusion. I think it's more confusing to have UO.com (which doesn't even keep up with the Global stuff well), UOEM, and/or random locked down items in game or town criers that aren't updated like they should be.
It needs to be uniform for all shards.
Not announcing events because you are worried about too much turn out is not an answer. It's bad customer service.
This is where I was hoping this thread would go.... ONE SITE ( that belongs to EA/Mythic ) for EVENT NEWS... I wouldn't even mind if it were Stratics (since this is where the vast majority of us hang anyway), but let's please have it where it's easy to access and up to date for ALL shards...
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It's not about us who know all of the websites. It's about UO in general, and giving potential or former players an idea that the game is still active. For years, looking at the UOHerald.com site, you would think UO was dead. Hell, when I was away from UO, I still checked in once in a blue mooon and I kept wondering when it was going to be shut down judging by the UO Herald and the inactivity.
Some people would say that I should visit Stratics or UO Guide or whatever, but when I look at an official website, I should be able to get an instant sense of how things are going and what's happening. Somebody who has never played UO has probably never heard of Stratics or UO Guide or any other fansite. They are going to spend a few minutes looking over the official site, and the thought that "oh, this is UO, I should look at fansites to find out what is happening" is never going to cross their mind, especially since this is an EA game.
If former or potential players visit UO.com and see that every week there were events on every shard or nearly every shard, it would help sell UO.
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Keep the discussion civil, relevant and thoughtful. You folks out there have great ideas. You really do. Bounce those ideas off of each other in a constructive and respectful manner and who knows what wonders will come.
The PvPers have discovered this and find that some recent threads are getting the attention they hoped for.
The PvPers have discovered this and find that some recent threads are getting the attention they hoped for.
"I have no news at this time." Or a message that is two months out of date.
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It's very simple for the web people to do, as it's a plugin (or whatever Drupal calls their plugins).
The people who put the current UO.com together, whether that's Kai or somebody at BioWare, could easily do it, since they did some stuff that is much more advanced.
They already have a place to put these page(s) for the events
UO Stratics and UO Forums have some kind of RSS plugins that make new threads.
The best way to do this on UO.com would have a collection of shard icons linking to separate pages for each shard that reads the UOEM.net event feeds. You could do it as a drop-down menu linking to a page - The Crossroads | Ultima Online at the Ultima Codex does this
I think it would be better to have shard icons on a the Live Event page linking to them, but eitehr way, each of those links goes to a shard page like this
It is automated from what they have said before. Stratics has something that shows them all on one page -
UO Stratics *New* , but it can be crowded.
UO.com should have this.
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Atlantic's events are announced for anyone who wants to check on it. They are on Stratics and the EM-Website. But considering the lag-fest many of them turn out to be - I don't think that advertising them to all 25+ shards is a good idea. Many turn out to be virtually unplayable for a lot of people.
3. Oceania. Though in fairness, EM Takako posted there while (s)he was looking after us, but that was only Exodus and a little shard-specific event. Not sure if EM Balthazar will, however our Sherry's and town criers have been updated very well so far.
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Having been to most of the events on other shards, they are lagfests and the whole magic storm has hit me a few times.
But this is not a problem with advertising the events, this is a problem with how events are held, what the purpose is, coping with the people who are there just to grief or get their pixel fix, etc.
EM events are a strength of UO, they should be advertised as one of the unique things about UO.
Maybe now that this live arc has finished, the EMs and Mesanna and the designers should sit down and think about them, how they could be improved, what can be done to deal with lag, the pixel crack collectors who just want their pixels, and the people who are genuinely there for the experience.
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Get a haircut, hippy.
Yeah really.. hophead.
But since EM events can be so shard specific.. and sometimes without warning, (C'mon you telling me EM's don't get drunk and decide to jump on and do something fun?).
It does seem like trying to set up a schedule that included every shard would make some EM's just decide not to jump in and do fun stuff because it's wouldn't be "scheduled"..
Just speaking for my shard I'm not sure this would be a good idea.. sometimes our EM just shows up.
So true.... And as such, they deserve to have - IMO - a permanent HOME PAGE spot on the newly revived UO.com page. After all that IS the "official" EA site.....
I am in total agreement with you startle. I was shocked last night to log into stratics to find all this news after the big roll out of uo.com. If a coronation is a big event and of great importance then significant advanced notice to allow our preparation would be extremely important to allow as many to view the spectacle.
I must admit my time has been limited given my RL changes, but I do want to participate as much as possible. UO needs a log in feed of the news or a login pop up that has to be dismissed. Or on an even more creative note each banker should spin gossip and when I say bank they should start spilling the beans of all the news they hear between towns. All the turkeys got out in Minoc and the fish are jumping over the bridge in Vesper and Blackthorn is having a coronation in Britain and I'm sure he will look marvelous.
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I must admit my time has been limited given my RL changes, but I do want to participate as much as possible. UO needs a log in feed of the news or a login pop up that has to be dismissed. Or on an even more creative note each banker should spin gossip and when I say bank they should start spilling the beans of all the news they hear between towns. All the turkeys got out in Minoc and the fish are jumping over the bridge in Vesper and Blackthorn is having a coronation in Britain and I'm sure he will look marvelous.
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Could not agree more. Very surprised earlier this year or late last year when I looked at UOEM.net and wondered why the main site was a smiley face, and then discovered it was an individual hosting it and not EA. My hat is off to the person who hosts UOEM.net, and no offense to them, but you're absolutely right, everything should be done through UO.com.
I'm really surprised, for the reasons you pointed out, and because it would not be hard for them to install an EM site at UO.com/em
This is what I'm getting at.... The tiny amount of time it would take for 1 person to add a bit of text to UO.com regarding current ingame "news" is why I continue to be baffled by EA/Mythic's INABILITY to devote a trivial amount of resources to keeping us INFORMED...
Just sayin......
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UOForums feeds events from the various EM websits.. Although since we changed to VB4 I will have to dole check they are all working fine.. Will get on that after work
Also not all the EM sites are maintained. I have them all linked via my Fansite Nav bar on Ultima auctions and Ultima Gallery and The RSS feeds on UOForums seem to be working but will dive into it more later.
I will point out that I am hardly in game these days but I still managed to see/hear about the Europa coronation with plenty of time to go to it.. I recorded it but the quality wasnt great
I will point out that I am hardly in game these days but I still managed to see/hear about the Europa coronation with plenty of time to go to it.. I recorded it but the quality wasnt great
PvPers can attend the Coronation ? Is it being held both in Trammel and Felucca (twice per shard )?
Still does. You'll find it in the left side bar
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What truly puzzles me about the reaction to this remark is that it's not like such a reaction is atypical for Stratics. "Look it up noob." "Google it." "Allow me to Google that for you lolz."
So when I saw it I just shrugged and thought nothing of it.
Odd, the firestorm it's created.
*shrugs*
-Galen's player
So when I saw it I just shrugged and thought nothing of it.
Odd, the firestorm it's created.
*shrugs*
-Galen's player
Long Live Blackthorn! Event Thursday Oct 11 7pm PST
Hear Ye! Hear Ye!
Dupre would like for all citizens to come attend a momentous occasion at Lord Blackthorn Castle this coming Thursday, Oct 11 at 7pm PST!
Come dressed in your finest and prepare for a new beginning!
Hear Ye! Hear Ye!
Dupre would like for all citizens to come attend a momentous occasion at Lord Blackthorn Castle this coming Thursday, Oct 11 at 7pm PST!
Come dressed in your finest and prepare for a new beginning!
I think an important point to remember is that, no matter how perfectly the information is presented to the users, there's a significant portion of the playerbase who will still remain oblivious.
The idea solution, to me, would be a calendar.
Give all events time and date in UTC, and tags (EM, Global, Player, shard etc.).
Then, the user specifies their timezone, and the time and date is converted to their local time.
Filters can be applied to reduce the "noise" of unwanted event types.
It would increase attendance to all events, owing to awareness.
But, keeping some manner of controlled environment on EM events is a horse that's not only bolted, it's probably made it to Mexico by now.
The idea solution, to me, would be a calendar.
Give all events time and date in UTC, and tags (EM, Global, Player, shard etc.).
Then, the user specifies their timezone, and the time and date is converted to their local time.
Filters can be applied to reduce the "noise" of unwanted event types.
It would increase attendance to all events, owing to awareness.
But, keeping some manner of controlled environment on EM events is a horse that's not only bolted, it's probably made it to Mexico by now.
I'd like to see UOEM website advertised better on uo.com and used by the entire team of EMs.
Another idea is a prompt when you first enter the game, similar to the icon used when you have a GM message that says "Hey, this is what is going on .... ___ ."
Personally, I'd also love a ingame message board for RPers to be able to learn about these events IC.
I'm really disappointed I missed out on the coronation for Atlantic. I was already on the way to the beach for the weekend when the announcement was made. Not too concerned about an item or whatever, just would have liked to have seen it. If I had seen the announcement earlier, I could have still made it as the pug and I didn't have to stop for a burger on the way home. Least it was a good burger!
Another idea is a prompt when you first enter the game, similar to the icon used when you have a GM message that says "Hey, this is what is going on .... ___ ."
Personally, I'd also love a ingame message board for RPers to be able to learn about these events IC.
I'm really disappointed I missed out on the coronation for Atlantic. I was already on the way to the beach for the weekend when the announcement was made. Not too concerned about an item or whatever, just would have liked to have seen it. If I had seen the announcement earlier, I could have still made it as the pug and I didn't have to stop for a burger on the way home. Least it was a good burger!
You can still see it. Just not live. WatchertooI'd like to see UOEM website advertised better on uo.com and used by the entire team of EMs.
Another idea is a prompt when you first enter the game, similar to the icon used when you have a GM message that says "Hey, this is what is going on .... ___ ."
Personally, I'd also love a ingame message board for RPers to be able to learn about these events IC.
I'm really disappointed I missed out on the coronation for Atlantic. I was already on the way to the beach for the weekend when the announcement was made. Not too concerned about an item or whatever, just would have liked to have seen it. If I had seen the announcement earlier, I could have still made it as the pug and I didn't have to stop for a burger on the way home. Least it was a good burger!
Ok, so I get that Mesanna was ill and I feel bad for her. But this makes me wonder who went around and broke the fingers of every other dev for uo. Is Mesanna the only one who knows how to log in and add "news" to the uo site? I know all the EM's report to her, but I'm sure someone could have figured out how to use the keyboard to type up a schedule. So the only logical excuse for nobody else being capable of posting some sort of schedule is that all their fingers are broke. Same with the writing contests. Even if they couldn't figure out how to copy and paste the winner's stories, they could have at least typed "Sorry for the delay. Something came up and there will be a hold on announcing the rest of the winners for a few days." Wait, nevermind, that did cause me a little undue stress to type that out, now I get why the other devs couldn't come up with that......hah with this sarcasm I should be a pvper right?
Thanks Petra. I will definitely take a peek. Better than not seeing it at all!
Then that is a problem for EA to fix. We all pay for the same game, same content. Some people don't pay extra for access to EM events. WE ALL PAY. Therefore, access should be available to everyone without restricting it to those who happen to know where to look. And it should be in ONE location for ALL shards for anyone who wants to participate in them.
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