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[UO Herald] Letter from the Franchise Producer

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Well, seeing as how this Producer's letter was from the Ultima FRANCHISE Producer what else would you really expect him to talk about? He talked about the franchise of Ultima which entrails various game titles, I don't see the issue there at all and why folks are crying foul. I just hope there is a Producer for Ultima Online {Messana} letter in the works, THAT's gonna be where the good stuff is for us UO folks.
if there is such they would have done well to release them simultaneously.. provided it's as rosy as you think it may be


It IS possible to be hands on, and still make reallly bad decisions....ask my wife :gee:
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if there is such they would have done well to release them simultaneously.. provided it's as rosy as you think it may be
I see nothing in my post that is rosy honestly. Only facts. People are giving Jeff crap about not telling enough X or Y when it comes to UO. Well, with his title (listed above) he penned a letter (granted a short one) that met HIS titles responsibility, VARIOUS Ultima titles. I only said "I HOPE" there would be a Producer for Ultima Online letter, and that is my hope. Nothing rosy about hope imo, in fact to me hope means you have lost faith in something and are merely hoping it comes to fruition. As for the contents of any possible Producer of UO letter, yes that is where someone would theoretically speak on Ultima Online solely, which would be the stuff we care about (or where the good stuff would be for us UO Folks).....

I am not an optimist, nor am I a pessimist. I am a dang REALIST. I don't paint a rosy picture (aka cheerleader) and sure do not subscribe to the gloom and doom crap. There are definitely problems that need to be addressed. And I HOPE the current team is up to the task.
 

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I wonder how many people read this and instantly closed their account and said oh man screw this lame game..sat down ate dinner and said oh crap my account has to be 30 days active to get my shiny pixel reward oh em gee!! And ran to reactivate..it's not real life people it almost like they shouldn't say anything at all because no matter what's said 50% still complain..
(Faux producer letter)
-We are revamping the whole game
-Making awesome 3d graphics never seen anywhere before
-There will be zero bugs
-free for the next 90 days
-faction system not available atm but currently being worked on
(end of faux letter)
80 replies in total
7 people - Cool
13 people - but I love my 2d UO
10 people- I can't wait
50 people- omg no factions yet geez this game is already a flop..no screens yet? No real advertising blah blah

..moral of completely ridiculous over drawn irrelevant story..
Wait and see or leave and play a different game..this game does not cater to you or me or anyone and if that's the plan they have written guess what your post on stratics will not change that..there is 2 options enjoy it play it..or don't! For 15 years our feedback hasn't meant much too much of anything..the new group of people are not any more special then before "FYI"
 
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Well, seeing as how this Producer's letter was from the Ultima FRANCHISE Producer what else would you really expect him to talk about?
One thing I didn't expect from him, I didn't expect him to address the letter to UO players and then end it with a plea to go sign up for Ultima Forever.
 

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I’m sure for many it was exciting to see we have more things in store for Ultima beyond just rereleasing the classics through GoG, setting up a history site for all things Ultima, and continuing to support UO as it hits a major milestone next month --its 15th anniversary.
Can someone point me to this site with a history of all things Ultima, please? When I try ultimaforever.com, I just go to a page for signing up for the U4E beta.
 

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im amazed by the amount of people that post with the lean of their talk being that they have a RIGHT to know what EA is doing with the game.

last time i checked we where here to PLAY THEIR game.
we arnt share holders.
they have no mandate to tell us stuff.
You know, Poo, you're absolutely right. They don't HAVE to tell us anything.

However... if they want to continue to receive dollars from a majority of the playerbase, not just the pompom waving fanfolk, then they should probably be more open in communications and plans and actually show that there's something to continue to pay for. Because otherwise, those few who are left actually paying for the game are going to enjoy absolutely no content updates for a long time as UO finally falls into comatose mode.

Yes... we are paying to play their game. We may not be their shareholders.

WE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO PAY THEIR SHAREHOLDERS.

So stop wondering why people think they have a right to know what goes on with the game.
 

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Can someone point me to this site with a history of all things Ultima, please? When I try ultimaforever.com, I just go to a page for signing up for the U4E beta.
Hahahahahaha. That's awesome. So I guess for his purposes U4E IS the history of uo.
ROFL!
 
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sick to death of the complainers and the quitters .
The quitters? You're sick to death of people that quit the game? Let me understand... you expect people to continue to pay for a game they have no interest in anymore mostly because we've been doing largely the same thing for the past two, three years, and there's nothing on the horizon? I've said it elsewhere and I'll continue to say it... Grinds and bugfixes do not a game make. People get bored. There is no longevity in boredom.
 

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This whole thread makes my head hurt. What do you expect?

How do you think we Stratics folks feel? We are a fan site. We like to promote games here. Particularly UO on this forum. It is difficult sometimes. I am unsure of what the franchise producer hoped to accomplish. *shrugs* It was more than 144 characters though. *chuckles*

I am also unsure what the majority of Stratics hopes to accomplish here. Run the fellow off? What? Why?

As was stated earlier, this fellow is not UO. he is Ultima... There is a difference. I guess...

I will agree it was not the message I had hoped to see. It is a message though.

I suspect that if you really want to get a response... Twitter might be a better option. Just saying.

Leave the hate off of Stratics please.
 

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Was this the letter we have been waiting for? I hope not! I can get more information from a blurb from a fansite.
 

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This whole thread makes my head hurt. What do you expect?

How do you think we Stratics folks feel? We are a fan site. We like to promote games here. Particularly UO on this forum. It is difficult sometimes. I am unsure of what the franchise producer hoped to accomplish. *shrugs* It was more than 144 characters though. *chuckles*

I am also unsure what the majority of Stratics hopes to accomplish here. Run the fellow off? What? Why?

As was stated earlier, this fellow is not UO. he is Ultima... There is a difference. I guess...

I will agree it was not the message I had hoped to see. It is a message though.

I suspect that if you really want to get a response... Twitter might be a better option. Just saying.

Leave the hate off of Stratics please.

*sighs*... What do I EXPECT?

I expect not to be treated like an idiot.

First off he writes a letter.... NO MENTION of new things for sale on Origin..... Did he not know that was coming????? And really shouldn't we have been told 2 or 3 weeks ago that they were going to be adding new things to the store and look for it? And try to at least get us excited about something for a change??????

Why would no one tell US??

Why was Origins published without a word??????

Why were bless deeds removed from the listing without a word?????


We expect to hear such things..... IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK? That we get told WTF is going on with the game we play.... maybe they thought they would put the **** on the website and NO ONE would buy it because we didn't know it existed and then they could say it did bad and close UO.

I'm still of the opinion that EA wants to make UO fail.... Why else would they continue to treat it like this??????

Instead we get squat as usual...
 

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The "UO & U4E teams are very different" comment reminds me of back in the day when Steve Jobs said that the Apple & Macintosh teams were very different and competition is good within a company. Hrmmm
 

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You expect that this Jeff fellow was behind all of this?
 

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I would be willing to bet Jeff has no idea what Origins is, other than an online store.
 

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This is UO's 15th Anniversary coming up, and we get a letter advertising U4E and more secrecy and vagueness.

Just tell us that it's in maintenance mode. At least the Warhammer Online players realize the truth, and I would feel a lot better knowing UO is in maintenance mode rather than getting my hopes up that they are going to try and grow it and bring in more players.
why only one active account rather than 6,
that money from the other 5 subscriptions entertain me in other games, just cant cut last cord but will claim a few more shields soon :)

my guess we really need a lot of threads from non ea shards to get there attention competition never hurts :)
 

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Where's the Beef?????????

:flame:
To quote a very good tv ad pitch lady....... Jeff you didnt disapoint me..... you failed miserably. I expected this kind of slough off message that had little or no meat of the needs of players on UO. Dear god man get some guts and start talking. Seriously.
There is so much you could be talking of to keep players in the loop....
I dont want to hear about uo4e, I dont plan on using it so its a waste of our time... We and I do mean WE of the UO community want results we can SEE.
I have noticed as others here have pointed out we are ether not getting any messaging through Mythic/Bio or we are getting lip service filled with dross.
Why not tell us of changes to get our input.... you might find you have quite a imaginitive group of players who just might surprise you of their prowse in the gamming world.
Your a Franchise Producer as your title is quite plain to see, that means you have some voice and can chat... Well boy this is STRATICS you know our addy and how to log in as it evident by past posts. Get off your duff and come in here and get your arse chewed and beleave you me you deserve a few bites....

Mesanna .......
Bonnie we got alot of people here who are not happy. They are very very tired of the hidden behind the curtain bit that has been status quo. Look back when we both roamed the early lands of Beta and that first year not a day went by without hearing a GM or Dev tell us oops we need fix this sorry folks we need to go down for a repair... try a new shard or go to test center..... You talked to many of them over the years ... wilki comes to mind. Great kid and very good listener to the masses. Draconi, I miss that guy... he always had good input and was one of us... a player who knew the score. GrimmOmen, what can I say about a guy who treated players as his mates and listend to ideas that had merrit and said so. He has given us so much, I for one will sorly miss him and his dedication to UO. The list of past Dev that took the few minutes evry few days or more, to come here and talk goes on in my mind as well those here on Stratics.
But now that line of communication is gone.... except you of course. I know your time is now very very busy but a line or two would be so welcome.
I dont mean to jump down Jeff's throat but the man must learn you can only go so far on your twitter page.... Pfft. :wall:

Poo love ya to death but sugarman this lack of honest communication thats worth the player loyalty is needed. Yes they want more for their $ out of them but to be honest in business many do and want that very same thing. I dont care what line your work is you will get this from all of the customers who use/want/need your product.
Shipping of a item is late... do you (a) keep doing what your doing and dont talk to the customer who is waiting for it. OR (b) contact them on a regular basis with even a hello just checking in and the product is processing an is due out by....
I guarantee you if you picked (b) your customers will stick with you. Just because you took out the time to say hello and sorry for the delay.
im just trying to damn some of the floodgates of hate and negativity.

i learned a long time ago (back when i lost my name) that getting involved with the inner beast that is the management of this game is a non winner.

so i play, i have fun and i roll with what they give out (as little as there is)
and i leave their talking to us, or lack there of up to them.
its not like they are gonna change the way they do things because of what we say here.
if that where the case THIS issue would have been nipped in the but 10 years ago, haha
 

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Wait just a minute, I don't have the thread handy, but just two days ago you were telling me you can't fault players for going after Jeff because of his crappy communication, and now you flaming those same players when he produces more crappy communication?

If you felt that people had a right to flame Jeff a few days ago, I don't see how you feel that people don't have a right to flame away when he throws out some U4E marketing and the same PR fluff UO players have been getting for far too long.
just because i cant fault people for going after him dosnt mean i agree with it.
im just seeing people whipping themselves into a frenzy here and im thinking maybe we should deescalate it a bit and let things cool a bit.

ID hate to piss off the people who are gonna be giving us free gifts and fun events here in the next couple weeks..... should i say that again..... dont say Santa dosnt exists a couple days before Christmas, wait until AFTER you get the toys, THEN you do it.
 
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How do you think we Stratics folks feel? We are a fan site. We like to promote games here. Particularly UO on this forum. It is difficult sometimes. I am unsure of what the franchise producer hoped to accomplish. *shrugs* It was more than 144 characters though. *chuckles*
I feel sorry for you all. You all want to promote UO and they won't even help you out. Meanwhile you have Richard Garriott devoting a few hours to talk to Stratics members about a game that won't be out until next year.
As was stated earlier, this fellow is not UO. he is Ultima... There is a difference. I guess...
He is in charge of UO and UF, and you certainly know that he's over the team behind UF. He claims on his Linked In profile to be a great and charismatic speaker who champions his products.
I suspect that if you really want to get a response... Twitter might be a better option. Just saying.
He says more on Twitter in short posts than he and Mesanna combined say on Stratics or the Herald, I'll give him that much.
 

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why only one active account rather than 6,
that money from the other 5 subscriptions entertain me in other games, just cant cut last cord but will claim a few more shields soon :)

my guess we really need a lot of threads from non ea shards to get there attention competition never hurts :)
mmmmm competition.
now there is something i can get behind.
imagine what we would see if there was 2 companies offering a server to play on for the same game.
mm mmm mmmmm that is a damn neat thought you inspire there with that.
 

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I feel sorry for you ...
Never feel sorry for me. I have enjoyed well over ten years of some grand fun. Save your sorrow for some that need it.
 

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Let's see...

I've been a fan of the Ultima series since the early 90s from 6 to 7 (complete) to UO to various fan created remakes to U4E. I'm looking forward to U4E, but to be honest the next things I want to hear about U4E are 1. The email that says "Welcome to Beta, Dermott" and 2. Here's how to get your U4E cloth map.

The only tangible piece of upcoming information was a small picture of a vampire... ok... Halloween content... I guess.

Then a small blurb of something that's not really on anyone's mind that I've seen. How can we even begin to expect the idea of a UO2 if activity on something like High Resolution artwork has been stalled for months if not years?

I could link to the letter mentioned in my previous post that shows more direct vision for the future of the game discussed that did NOT have to be "cleared" to be posted than today's Ultima letter, and it was posted as an apology to another dev over a statement made on Facebook in response to an interview.

I'm glad that Jeff is excited about the Ultima brand. I'm excited about U4E as well, but I was looking for something to give me excitement about UO, and i didn't see that in this letter.
 

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Hey! wait a minute now.

We did at least hear from the UO team leader.

I think that this is worth a cheer.

So: Phuuffuuuuut-Phrffuuuuuut- Puhuuurtttt !

For those not familiar with U.S. expressions , That is what is called a Bronx cheer. Or maybe for some a big wet raspberry.
 
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ID hate to piss off the people who are gonna be giving us free gifts and fun events here in the next couple weeks..... should i say that again..... dont say Santa dosnt exists a couple days before Christmas, wait until AFTER you get the toys, THEN you do it.
Wait, you mean the things that we get every single year going back 10+ years?

Don't you play other MMORPGs? There is no need to make excuses for them - outside of Mythic, companies talk about their games. If you don't believe me, check this article from a week ago from another BioWare MMORPG.

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