[UO Herald] Act VI - Healers Quest

[UO News]

The Mysterious Healer is still in need of your assistance in preparing cures for the great Gargish Blight. There are still two weeks before the cure must be administered into the populace. After the Cure event is finished we will post the total number of cures turned in for each shard.
The Mysterious Healer in Ter Mur can be found at the makeshift healers colony at the Riverside Fishing Village.

Happy Experimenting!

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[Martyna Zmuir]

Good. Draw attention to a failed event after it's TOO LATE to start growing the plants.

 

[Aurelius]

Good. Draw attention to a failed event after it's TOO LATE to start growing the plants.

Well to get the 'top cure maker' rewards, probably - but isn't there still time to get the components to let your characters try make a cure? (Not actually got around to doing it yet, but I understood the cures you make have the maker's name attached, and you don't have to turn them in?)

 

[Martyna Zmuir]

If you have suger and vanilla, sure you have enough time to make deco cures. Making them isn't hard per se, just time consuming. If you plan to grow them in bulk to even attempt a high number, you're SOL.

 

[Nimuaq]

The first act is just frustrating for me which you have to do the same thing over and over again without using any skills you might have (both in-game and as a player), to earn a city banner and a title, in other words, using basically the same mouse actions over and over again to advance your character to be able to access newer content (which pretty much defines the term grinding). The rewards were not present at the beginning, so we didn't even have a goal (a game-defined goal that is, we already have various different self-defined goals in UO which is just one of the things that make this game great). They added mobs to fight in the second act and while it was a novel idea to let the players use their skills to accomplish something, it limited the participation to only pvm characters. We have seen puzzles in the third act, not like the ones which you use your intelligence to solve, but more like a memory game testing your concentration and short-term memory. They added random encounters to the fourth act, this time to be able to keep the items of the second act and it is actually fun when you're with a group of players in the desert and a paragon desert spider spawns all of a sudden (but nearly all group hunts are fun in UO). The fifth act was a global em event and I haven't tested the sixth act yet but I will and hopefully will enjoy the time I spend on it .

 

[Frarc]

Going to wait for the last 2 days to turn in my last cures.

 

[legendsguy]

An event where only the top people who turned in cures are given rewards--and we have no idea who or how many that is! Basically if you haven't started already you're pretty much SOL. I guess you could do it for fun but.. why? It's not exactly fun. Ah well. Pretty soon those new Mage sleeves will be up on some illicit website being sold for gobs of gold/dollars for the rich and the gullible.

Oh, and while we're on the subject of gullibility, Mesanna did say we'd be getting the +5 stat scrolls didn't she? I mean, I took her on her word and renewed my account for another month but I don't feel like waiting 6 months-2 years while they twittle their thumbs, trying (but not very hard) to find a place to put them in the game that ensures the most amount of angry people. Might I suggest Fel? Everyone loves having to rely on their least favorite part of the game for something that is integral to all their characters!

 

[Shakkara]

I gave up on this event because someone already turned in 400+ cures on my shard.

I could churn out maybe 10% of that so it is likely that I waste my time and don't even get the sash.

It's too late to do anything about it now too, we can't grow vanilla/sugar anymore and extending the event will upset the players that put a lot of effort in it until now. Like I said in the other thread, giving guaranteed sleeves to the top contributers, and a random chance to everyone else based on their contribution total might be something to consider, then it at least makes sense to hunt some paragons for vanilla and sugar (which costs up to an hour to get one vanilla and one sugar from) and churn out 1-5 cures.

 

[Petra Fyde]

why can't you grow sugar and vanilla anymore? Mine is growing fine. Has something happened I'm not aware of?

 

[Martyna Zmuir]

why can't you grow sugar and vanilla anymore? Mine is growing fine. Has something happened I'm not aware of?

Planting them now, unless you did it in absolutely massive numbers, wouldn't generate enough resources to make a dent in the cure curve. Then there is the fact that you wouldn't have enough time to create enough cures in the last few days.

 

[Petra Fyde]

ah sorry, it was the phrasing, can't grow it anymore, I took it that there was something preventing it being grown.
I've been doing the quest since the start, but I'm not a very dedicated medic, I've only handed in 150 cures so far. I know I'm not in the running for any prizes, but I wouldn't use the sleeves anyway so I'm not too worried.

 

[THP]

i dread to think what nonsense reward the lucky few will get....it will probably have a selling market value of over 500m...par say other unique event items [WHATEVER]

 

[Ron Silverbeard]

ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE if we FAIL? Perma Rotten Corpse Invasion through corrupted gates in all towns not defended well enough - yes? YES? PLEASE!

 

[WarderDragon]

I would.

But I don't do long and tedious.

 

[O'Brien]

They'll probably just give everyone who participated the sleeves in the end and then claim that "this is what we were planning all along."

 

[Winker]

Well i have ZERO chance of getting the sleeves, so i guess im just going to have to pay the Dupers/3rd party websites to get a pair. That makes loads of sence, giving the dupers a chance to earn even more real life cash from UO

 

[Storm]

I collected the ingredients and and did about 5 puzzles and have a lot going on so not much play time so when I can play their are just way to many things I would rather be doing for my limited time!

 

[Myphsar]

So people dont like it and want it given to them on a plate?
Yay for squeaky wheels...

Flame away, passed caring now, cleary i seem to be one of the rare people that actualy wanted to do/did this and not moan about it.

 

[Storm]

I cant speak for others in this thread, I liked it its great just takes to long for the amount of time
I have to play atm

 

[Druido2]

So people dont like it and want it given to them on a plate?
Yay for squeaky wheels...

Flame away, passed caring now, cleary i seem to be one of the rare people that actualy wanted to do/did this and not moan about it.

Some people don't seem to understand what the complaints are. However, let me put it I simple words. Players do not care how long it takes to do the cures, we do all agree that it's fun and it should not be given to us on a plate, but why make it a competition. Why not just make it a set goal and have every one that works towards it get the rewards? If the developers want make so that players turnin a million cures, but have everyone that turn in the cures get the reward. Why should the scripters, or people without real life happenings have the chance of getting the rewards??

 

[virtualhabitat]

It would be kind of cool if a shard could collectively turn in, say 5,000, 10,000 or 15,000 cures (based on active population?), that the whole shard would receive the rewards. The top cure makers could be venerated with a some sort of permanent recognition icon (statues, books, plaques, etc..) placed in Royal City somewhere.

Something like this would be double plus good for everyone.

 

[SlobberKnocker]

virtual and druido have hit it right on the head with their two suggestions. this is the manner in which the dev's should be thinking. the event as it stands will allow two things to happen that are everything the dev's have stated in the past they are trying to avoid.

1) this event essentially plays right into a scripters hand.

2) the top prize will wind up being rare enough to command and exhorbitant amount of gold.

i dare anyone to prove otherwise.

 

[Specialshoes]

Oh, and while we're on the subject of gullibility, Mesanna did say we'd be getting the +5 stat scrolls didn't she? I mean, I took her on her word and renewed my account for another month but I don't feel like waiting 6 months-2 years while they twittle their thumbs, trying (but not very hard) to find a place to put them in the game that ensures the most amount of angry people. Might I suggest Fel? Everyone loves having to rely on their least favorite part of the game for something that is integral to all their characters!

Wasn't her last update on that subject that they had found a method of delivering the scrolls and that it would be in place by years end?

 

[Druido2]

Oh, and while we're on the subject of gullibility, Mesanna did say we'd be getting the +5 stat scrolls didn't she? I mean, I took her on her word and renewed my account for another month but I don't feel like waiting 6 months-2 years while they twittle their thumbs, trying (but not very hard) to find a place to put them in the game that ensures the most amount of angry people. Might I suggest Fel? Everyone loves having to rely on their least favorite part of the game for something that is integral to all their characters!

What does this even mean????? For what I read it means that you were not going to renew your membership whether you got the scroll or not. We keep the accounts up because we like playing the game, not because we get rewarded for having account up. It is Plus that the developers give us items In game to show appreciation to the players. If you want to close your account close it, don't make it sound as if you need a reward to keep the account running. That only tells us you are a spoiled brat.

 

[O'Brien]

What does this even mean????? For what I read it means that you were not going to renew your membership whether you got the scroll or not. We keep the accounts up because we like playing the game, not because we get rewarded for having account up. It is Plus that the developers give us items In game to show appreciation to the players. If you want to close your account close it, don't make it sound as if you need a reward to keep the account running. That only tells us you are a spoiled brat.

It means the paying customers were told that the item would be a permanent drop. It wasn't until weeks later until it was clarified that permanent drop wouldn't be until at least 6 months away. Meanwhile, I haven't heard of any discount price on the subscription fee they plan on giving us over the next 6 months, have you?

Meanwhile, we are paying for a game for 6+ months wherein we compete with a few fellow subscribers who were given a +5 stat advantage which the rest of us can't get unless we shovel up 50+ mil to buy it from another player.

So yeah I can see why being misled by the new producer would make someone want to quit.

And I'll venture to say that most (not all) of the posters who don't seem to understand that are the ones who got their +5 scroll and enjoy the unfair advantage it brings over most others.

 

[Promathia]

It means the paying customers were told that the item would be a permanent drop. It wasn't until weeks later until it was clarified that permanent drop wouldn't be until at least 6 months away. Meanwhile, I haven't heard of any discount price on the subscription fee they plan on giving us over the next 6 months, have you?

Meanwhile, we are paying for a game for 6+ months wherein we compete with a few fellow subscribers who were given a +5 stat advantage which the rest of us can't get unless we shovel up 50+ mil to buy it from another player.

So yeah I can see why being misled by the new producer would make someone want to quit.

And I'll venture to say that most (not all) of the posters who don't seem to understand that are the ones who got their +5 scroll and enjoy the unfair advantage it brings over most others.

Yes yes, that amazing +5 stat advantage.....

 

[virtualhabitat]

I received the +5 scroll at the event, but my account is too young for all ethys, seed boxes, runebook dying tubs, and shard shields. I missed getting a Bane dragon, dread mare, conjurers garb with luck, trinket, grimiore, and a rangers cloak of augmentation. On top of all that, I have a 705 skill point cap.

You'll understand when I say I am not buying that I have any real -or imagined, advantage over anyone in this game.

 

[Nimuaq]

If you have suger and vanilla, sure you have enough time to make deco cures. Making them isn't hard per se, just time consuming. If you plan to grow them in bulk to even attempt a high number, you're SOL.

The vanilla and sugar shortage aside, how do they expect me to concentrate on preparing the cure with just the right amount of ingredients while gargoyles keep vomiting all over the place.

 

[Eärendil]

O´Brian: Your arguments don´t become more convincing by repeating them. Even if I got 10 of these scrolls I woudn´t use but sell and trade them. They are worthless to 85 % of the whole population. Maybe some PvP-People like them - and even many of those say that they don´t REALLY NEED them. And sorry: If your role as a "customer" and the way the "company" behaves is the only reason why you "pay" for the account, you should think about your "playing-philosophy". Greed and marterialism don´t make people happy, believe me

I don´t pay for my account because I hope for a scroll now or in 6 month. I pay for having fun with my mates ingame, for traveling around and having a good time. It is absolutely IRRELEVANT for most of us, if there will be this scroll some day ingame, if it will be now or in 6 month. Who cares? Sorry again, but this is getting ridiculous: "misled"... "unfair advantage"...

The other problem - the cure and the way the rewards are given - is completely different from this one: The Scrolls dropped by RNG - as it is one of the MAJOR PRINCIPLES in this game. Everyone knows it and everyone has own experiences. Some like it, others dislike it. But it´s a given fact that is commonly accepted. The Cure changes the rules and produces a shift towards a certain type of players. That´s the one of the most important points - and the reason, why I don´t participate. But lemme show the difference between us: I would never argue, that I am a paying customer and that I demand changes - otherwise I quit or something like that. I would never say: I prolongued my account, because they said they will change the way the rewards are given... THAT is not the reason why I play the game. And the same is true for most of us.

There will be other quests another time - and there will be other rewards some day. Calm down - at least, it´s a game. Everyone is spending his/her 10 bucks deliberately...

 

[popps]

why can't you grow sugar and vanilla anymore? Mine is growing fine. Has something happened I'm not aware of?

The problem is having to beat (or match) powergamers who turned in hundreds upon hundreds of cures in order to have access to the best rewards the way this Event has been designed. It was hardly possible for casual players before it is practicly impossible now, IMHO, so why bother even trying ?? To my opinion, the biggested mistake was making it a race into turning in the highest number of cures AND assigning rewards in comparison to the top number of cures turned in. This deterred many players who did not feel they had enough time to compete to even try it in the first place. Rewards should have had from start a SET NUMBER of cures to turn in, a goal for participants to reach that was UNRELATED to what other players were turning in. Or, as someone else suggested there should have been CAPs to the max number of cures required to obtain resources. I am sorry, but I cannot help thinking that the way that this competition was organized is dead wrong since while there is powergamers there is also CASUAL players in UO having way, but way much less time to play the game. Not to mention also the issue that scripting is (unfortunately) a sad reality in UO. That's at least how I see it.
Now, I think, the only possible way to come forward to the aid of casual players with a limited time to play UO who felt not to bother and try compete with powergamers on their shard, is to make these rewards available again through other means so that they won't be cut out from them.
And, please, in the future NO MORE EVENTS WHERE REWARDS ARE TIED UP TO WHATEVER POWERGAMERS CAN ACHIEVE !! Please do keep in mind that not all players can spend the same time in the game and by cutting out casual UO players from rewards, I fear this might eventually lead to a further loss of subscriptions because some casual players might think it as not worth playing when their limited time in the game, with the way Events are tailored, might cut them out from getting nice rewards. All players whether playing a limited or extended time all pay the same subscription amount and therefore their enjoyment from Events should be similar, I think.

 

[Myphsar]

I hated collecting the regs in early june because it was boring, but now it has paid off as im turning in cures and my brain enjoys the puzzles.
I must be some sort of casual powergamer
It has and always was a competiton.
If you arrive at a club late (if you can still get in that is) would you demand that a DJ that was on earlier plays again because you missed him becuase your late?
I mean, you did pay the same as everyone else.

 

[LordDrago]

I hated collecting the regs in early june because it was boring, but now it has paid off as im turning in cures and my brain enjoys the puzzles.
I must be some sort of casual powergamer
It has and always was a competiton.
If you arrive at a club late (if you can still get in that is) would you demand that a DJ that was on earlier plays again because you missed him becuase your late?
I mean, you did pay the same as everyone else.

If I was late, say due to an accident in front of me, and the DJ I missed was one aspect of the club that I particularly wanted to see/hear, I would not have gone in if that would have made my night not worth it.

How about this one...you get your tickets online to watch the 1st showing of Clint Eastwood in "Heartbreak Ridge", and leave directly from work to go to the movie...however when you get into line to get into the theater, you see people climbing over the ropes and going ahead of you. When you finally get to the front of the line, you are told that the theater is full, so you will get to watch "The Bridges of Madison County" instead.

I guess you just chalk that up to bad luck on not getting there early enough to compete with people cheating, or people who didn't have to work as late as you.

 

[Myphsar]

I guess you just chalk that up to bad luck on not getting there early enough to compete with people cheating, or people who didn't have to work as late as you.

Nice.... more total bollocks assumptions

 

[LordDrago]

not saying you are cheating, but as has been mentioned in some threads, scriptors have been seen. As far as the more time, I can say that I could not start this quest or start preparing for this quest until well after most players, nor do I have much spare time these days to play.

You have worked hard at the quest..no problems there. Now, if someone was scripting on you shard 24/7 and that cost you the top tier, would that not upset you? It would me.

 

[LordDrago]

Nice.... more total bollocks assumptions

I am sure Petra will delete this, however you really do assume that as soon as someone mentions scripters they are talking about you. You take it far too personally.
Let me make it clear for you...I DO NOT THINK YOU ARE CHEATING!!!!

However, the way this quest and reward system is set up, someone who was scripting would have a serious advantage, one that would be extremely difficult to compete against.

Most people do not have a problem with quests as long as they have a chance at the rewards competing on a level playing field. Someone playing 1 hr a day cannot compete against someone just as dedicated to the quest competing 3-4 hrs a day, who cannot compete against the dedicated quester competing 8 hrs a day...

 

[Myphsar]

I am sure Petra will delete this, however you really do assume that as soon as someone mentions scripters they are talking about you. You take it far too personally.
Let me make it clear for you...I DO NOT THINK YOU ARE CHEATING!!!!

However, the way this quest and reward system is set up, someone who was scripting would have a serious advantage, one that would be extremely difficult to compete against.

Most people do not have a problem with quests as long as they have a chance at the rewards competing on a level playing field. Someone playing 1 hr a day cannot compete against someone just as dedicated to the quest competing 3-4 hrs a day, who cannot compete against the dedicated quester competing 8 hrs a day...

Ok, Other people have accused me of cheating.
I hate cheaters of any sort and for me to be accused really annoys me.
There is'nt a lot to do in UO for me atm when my guild mates are not on and i have done everything that there is to do.
So this competiton gave me a reason to log in each day.

 

[O'Brien]

O´Brian: Your arguments don´t become more convincing by repeating them.

Agree. I was responding to Druido's post which was attempting to tear down someone else's legitimate complaint about how the Producer handles things.

Even if I got 10 of these scrolls I woudn´t use but sell and trade them. They are worthless to 85 % of the whole population. Maybe some PvP-People like them - and even many of those say that they don´t REALLY NEED them.

Even if the scrolls were worthless to 85% of the whole population, unless you're giving these things away for below market value, you are profiting greatly and hense are getting an unfair advantage to the tune of 50mil per scroll. 50mil * 10 = 500 mil. So don't talk to me about greed until you've seen what's in my bankbox after years of playing and tell me how many of those you donated for free to others who couldn't attend the event.

And sorry: If your role as a "customer" and the way the "company" behaves is the only reason why you "pay" for the account, you should think about your "playing-philosophy". Greed and marterialism don´t make people happy, believe me

Sorry, but this doesn't even make sense.

I don´t pay for my account because I hope for a scroll now or in 6 month. I pay for having fun with my mates ingame, for traveling around and having a good time.

Me too.

It is absolutely IRRELEVANT for most of us, if there will be this scroll some day ingame, if it will be now or in 6 month. Who cares? Sorry again, but this is getting ridiculous: "misled"... "unfair advantage"...

Well it's not irrelevant to everyone. To me, it speaks volumes about the game development.

The other problem - the cure and the way the rewards are given - is completely different from this one: The Scrolls dropped by RNG - as it is one of the MAJOR PRINCIPLES in this game. Everyone knows it and everyone has own experiences. Some like it, others dislike it. But it´s a given fact that is commonly accepted. The Cure changes the rules and produces a shift towards a certain type of players. That´s the one of the most important points - and the reason, why I don´t participate. But lemme show the difference between us: I would never argue, that I am a paying customer and that I demand changes - otherwise I quit or something like that. I would never say: I prolongued my account, because they said they will change the way the rewards are given... THAT is not the reason why I play the game. And the same is true for most of us.

I wouldn't demand changes or I quit. But I do LOVE to remind everyone that we are paying customers. We're not here to serve Mesanna, for example, or to try not to hurt her feelings or make her feel like royalty or anything like that. Why? Because she already has her paycheck and title, and last I checked she hasn't done anything nearly worthy of glorification or worship that many players seem to feel compelled to give her.

There will be other quests another time - and there will be other rewards some day. Calm down - at least, it´s a game. Everyone is spending his/her 10 bucks deliberately...

Exactly.

 

[Petra Fyde]

This is a circular argument leading to nothing other than posters turning on each other. I think it's time to call a halt.